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  1. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    Ive been noticing a growing trend in events, Amphora give less and less with each event.
    The RE-quest "Chop Chop" Is an absolute joke now that you have reduced the drop rate of pickaxes.
    The daily Miners pack is junk now.. Might as well do away with it.. And you should apologize to those who held onto a bunch of them to use on the next event. They are now worthless. Thanks for letting us bloat our inventories only to "screw us in the end" (pun and inference INTENDED)
    I'll stop here, I will only parrot what has already been said by those that posted before me.
    Yes it is!

    Makes one wonder if they do it on purpose just to sit back and laugh their asses off at all the complaints on forums and FB! DEVS have to have fun to right????

    Simple, Poignant, and beautifully on target!

    If so, then BP have some VERY TALENTED people

    I know, as do all the other long time players that NONE OF THIS FEEDBACK WILL MAKE A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE!!!
    Just like my signature says .
    And to know how I feel about all of this, just take a look at my avatar!!! A picture is worth a thousand FORBIDDEN words!

    EDIT Doc.
    Last edited by moderator: Feb 3, 2017
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  2. ßaRuTFtßLuee

    ßaRuTFtßLuee Forum Greenhorn

    Its so hard event
    can you give us a bounes code please we really need it
  3. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    Hey! You're plagiarizing me... signature.:rolleyes:

    How the heck is your team testing and scaling events?:confused:
    As I've said before: send your whole company to some math classes (I don't think kindergarten ones will suffice).

    So... Modes were introduced just as a reason to nerf the drops?
    Nerfed the pickaxes (drops and chests), nerfed the progress drops, nerfed and randomized (3,5,10) geodes drop (and it's the same in all modes:confused:), nerfed... everything.
    Did you really think that the increased drop-rate of those useless 5 min immunity potions will make the overall nerf more acceptable.:mad:

    Keep digging your own grave.
  4. CreeperS4

    CreeperS4 Someday Author

    And now that the first mini is on, I feel that someone is laughing at us heavily...

    1- Difficulties still don't matter (not surprising tbh)
    2- The last gem, on test server, was on that nice stackable box. Now we have the gem and we can't stack them with the rest. I would like to have a reason why this change is an improvement
    3- Last time, if I'm not wrong, you could finish the first mini in 10-15 rounds, now you need arround 20-25. Because why not, am I right?
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    So ... I had a word with one of the QA guys at TS (the same guy gave me 9x Rune of Devastation so I can make all the rune articles at Wiki) ... he said 9% has been changed to 8% couple of weeks ago. But since I crafted all the runes into one T3 rune I couldn't spot the difference ... since I don't have the rune.

    So basically have been given 40 Pure Viscanium for daily login ... that means all our alt toons can have 1/8 of the progress done without even playing the event ...all you have to do is to collect 14x40 Pure viscanium from daily bonus. But the progress and Pure Viscanium have never been a issue ... you could finish the progress without a single run inside the event map.
    The rewards are nice ... but those new runes have lost their charm. After the initial nerfing from 9% increased Critical Damage to +9%
    Critical Damage it was kind of OK, but now nerfed further to 8% Critical Damage they are ... mehhh. If I could use them inside helmet or cloak maybe I would use them instead some of my Jewel of Rage ... but this way I don't think it is worth losing defensive gems or even rubies from 2H.

    Drop rate of impure/pure viscanium is not changed much inside Viscanium Mine ... BUT the drop of Impure Viscanium has been significantly reduced inside Parallel Worlds. I made 4 runs at Q1 and Q3 and I got 180 Impure Viscanium and 0 maps ... that is 45 Impure Viscanium per run :mad:. I went to Stillwater Bay and in 3-5 minutes I have got 150 Impure Viscanium and 2 maps :eek:. So basically you are making us run away from the PWs.
    The same formula of deception has been implemented ... like for the Dragan event ... you make the stacks bigger but you get them less frequently ... which ends up in nerfed drop. Noobs would say "OMG x4 and x8 drops" ...but they don't realize they are collecting less than before. And where are those x50 drops? I haven't got a single one yet.

    The drop rate of pickaxes has been heavily nerfed ... Viscanium Miner Pack (nerfed edition) now gives 2 pickaxes instead of 5 ... Jullov now drops less pickaxes than before (according to all info from different players the drop is random from 10-15) ... the drop inside the Viscanium mine is nerfed 50000000% ... you can get few pickaxes here and there and the max. drop is x3. If you want us only to buy amphora keys just remove the "No Mercenary" quest and revert the drops to the previous state. I will understand ...if you tell us "from now on you will have to buy the amphora keys ... no more farming" ...but I can't understand this silly decision of nerfed drops.

    What is the point of having difficulty selection when I get nothing more than in normal mode? When I farm an event map ... I don't farm it for andermant or items ... I can do that in PW ... I farm it for event resources. On top of it ... we have bosses with BS drop.

    So basically we get to the point where the game is almost unenjoyable to play in almost all segments. You make us have sympathy for those players who are using cheats/hacks :confused:
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  6. rpfo

    rpfo Padavan

    Very true.

    The best i found is ocean/hod full runs , like 170+ in normal lvl. No difference on lvl 2, 3.

    1 - Shady Jhon quests to trade for pure viscanium and maps arent working properly and we need to be clicking and reclicking Shady Jhon to make him recognize we gave the impure viscaniuns and now we want our reward.
    2 - Drop rates of impure viscanium very reduced , at least for me, specially in groups, those trolls dont even drop them. What was that?
    3 - Pickaxes : very very very reduced. 1 pickaxe in a full run with lucky , jullov ? oh we need beg players to invite us if they find. Lots of peeps leaving group to join another because they "found jullov"
    4 - Since im a ranger, the gems are still usefull and are the only motive that i have to finish this event. Otherwise i would skip like the crap NewMoon. But im finishing this event on PW not in event map. Just get inside to make burners and back to pw.
    5 - Why the heck waste server transactions resources with minis in map, they dont even drop!

    Somebody told above that they dont know how to make the Maths. I would tell you that yes, they know it well. Events , one by one, are becoming very poor. If in 1 hand they give us 3 gems with 8% crit dmg , in the other all players will have to be inside a very poor map, that drops like 4 - 5 greens and 1 - 2 blues. Rarely a pink , legend one. So ull get ur 8% gems by the price of staying in a map where u wont get cubes, regular gems, anders , neither gold we can do in the event map. Its like 3-4 golds most of the runs. So the result math is :
    x' = +DSO
    x'' = -Players.

    Last edited: Feb 4, 2017
  7. iNeXoRaBlE

    iNeXoRaBlE Forum Great Master

    Why there is not boss on the mini event? On the middle right of the map you know the big boss. The challenge seems so long without the 100drop that it was dropping
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2017
  8. BigHink

    BigHink Forum Inhabitant

    that boss will be there in 2nd mini
  9. iNeXoRaBlE

    iNeXoRaBlE Forum Great Master

    It seems though that the event demands too many burners from last year though... Twice the amount for sure..
  10. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Count Count

    I was trading 200 impure for 10 pure viscanium. I had 426 so I knew I could make two trades. I did that and when I looked at my inventory, I had no viscanium left. I closed inventory and reopened it and I had 36 viscanium. Now I don't know how much I really have. The 10 impure isn't going to make a difference but the inventory showing up, disappearing, showing up, is a bit disconcerting.

    I do like that there are no white drops. Thanks for that!
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    The second mini boss inside the challenge map is not dropping burners :eek::eek::eek:

    That is because the progress bar has been extended by 150%


    But the drop has been improved only for 15-20%. It used to drop 95-100 Viscanium Drops ... now it is dropping 110-120 :D
    Don't worry the second challenge bar has been reduced from 2800 to 2500 (half run) as a part of the never ending trolling :D
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  12. Cratar

    Cratar Someday Author

    Its my first ever event in drakensang and i see its interesting and good event with some negative things that might be changed later.

    Negative thing i dont like
    1- the event is too long (i like events to be too long in PERIOD so people who can't play alot due to work/school etc... can still stand chance to get smthing from events.. but in this event it is too long in progress and you will not get anything if u didnt play alot in all the days)
    2- the barrels inside the event only one can open them if you are in group , which makes it better for me to run the event solo
    3- the mini challenges should be less in the progress bar or longer in time period in my opinion

    EDIT: Also when u get disconnected from the game while ur inside the event map . when u relog . ur back to the nearest urban area and thats ugly ... i face internet problems sometimes and that cost me losing alot in event to go farm 200 impure again to get scroll to get inside the event
    thats all i guess . overall keep up the good events
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2017
  13. HurrDurr

    HurrDurr Forum Apprentice

    Here's my little feedbeck:

    +- Amphorae key farm nerf
    I guess it was to be expected after some geniuses bragged on forums how much they managed to get last event. Oh well...
    As amphorae don't geive that much nowadays i dont mind. I'm getting roughly 1/3 (edit: more like 1/12, what can i say, tough times) A keys compared to last event.
    Nerf contained also -50% off of main progress, which kinda cancels out the lack of A keys.

    +- New gems
    These new gems are specifically meant as a response to the endless whining of rengers. They are the only ones who get benefit from these. There is no way people go back to using 1-hand just because of these. Unless the dso team pulls some stunt like doubling the essence consumption for 2-handed weapons...
    So for me its meh.

    - Difficulty scaling
    Its completely useless. Why would anyone do something much much harder for the same reward. Actually by doing harder diff, it would take me even longer to complete event progress. Any sane person maxes out his run-speed and blazes through normal difficulty. It warms my heart that midgets can't do this tactic as good as other classes. They just don't have spammable aoe skills and it takes too long for towers to do, not to mention steam sustainability. HA! Need dwarf on that! Suckas :D

    + Increased drop of antidote pots
    me gusta for challenge 2

    + Weird increase of challenge progressbar
    Moar progress, moar progress rewards. Works for me

    - Drake missions frags
    Whats the deal with drop of Drake quest fragments. In any other quests, you start mission, fragments start dropping, you end mission and fragments STOP dropping. For Drake quests, fragments drop all the time (no matter if you accept the quest or not) spamming the ground. Irritating

    + Autoloot on main/challenge progress
    This is a big deal.

    - No autoloot on impure viscanium
    See 3rd line above.

    - Nerf of Map drop from worthy enemies

    ? It would be well if repeatable exchange quests (200 inpure viscanium -> 10 pure / map) we're given the same treatment as Thabo's map exchange quests. Its basically only exchange, no quest needed.


    - Gem of enhancement no longer comes in stackable box
    and thus each gem eats one inventory space (they can't be put in any items)
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2017
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  14. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Yes, but that would require 100k Impure... divided by ten days, that means about 10 stacks per day. Possible? No doubt. But not really practical xD. There's also the minis. Not to mention that you'd then need about 500 x how many clicks are needed to do the quest once.
  15. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    I can guarantee you by whining about this they will make Normal mode useless and all of the others much more difficult, which is a lose lose scenario that they love to implement. At least we can do the event in a somewhat decent time in Normal mode. I take the blame for the Amphora nerf, Dev's don't read the forums my butt.
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  16. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Well the bummer stuff has pretty well been covered in previous posts. So for my feedback I just drop a couple thoughts for my 2 cents worth :rolleyes:
    Nah, you don't get all the credit :D I know I mentioned key farming in at least a couple posts for the last DDH. Although I did leave out how many I got last time :p
    I would have understood this too. But the convoluted 'smoke and mirrors' approach they took to accomplish this is just an insult to the players.

    Now we have this simply joyless event. It still has to be done at least for the joker gems. Since my main is an RG I guess the new ranger gem will probably come in handy as well (being the only class without a 2h weapon is finally a benefit ;))

    Since the dev's actually do read what we post to figure out what to nerf next; I'll mention one thing I still like about this event. It can be played from most of the urban areas. More events should be like this. Ofc, now the dev's can remove this feature for the next DDH :eek:

    Luck be with ye,
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  17. edrogers58

    edrogers58 Regular

    What to say except a very bad event Axe drops very few and far between Julov appearances pretty much non existent
    Only thing this event has got going for it for end game players are the Jewels of Enhancement
    My thoughts of making you guys listen to player feedback is for all the cash players to stop buying Ander for a month stop buying Premium for a month and say Oi listen your game is trash listen to the players for a change
    I know this won't happen and you will keep making events worse with more grinding because you pay absolutely zero attention to your player base :)
  18. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    Which is why I tell everyone if you find something good... NEVER POST IT TO FORUMS/FB!!!!! Otherwise the Mods tell the Devs, The Devs nerf it or kill it altogether.

    If you want to keep it... KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!

    Thanks, Doc.
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  19. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Guest

    That is BS :)

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  20. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    Then that means the Devs read the forums or some outlet where player feedback is read because we all know it's not coming from the QA team. Unless, of course, their job is to focus on making our lives more difficult and not acting on the numerous bugs that seem to come out with every release.
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