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  1. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Our comments were deleted in this thread, with "off topic" excuse, even if they were not, therefore I am creating this thread for all people who are not visiting closed groups with 3rd party apps. You can post any information from that channel and have open discussion about anything even slightly related to the game.
    So I will start with this quote from the other thread
    So people, please repost your comments regarding this information, and continue the conversation. ;)
     
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  2. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Exceptional Talent

    Well my thread on the matter were deleted as well. So I can't just copy paste them.

    I said some where along the lines that I agree with @EmilyRose that this gentlemen's Statements should have been posted on BP official webpage via forum.

    @EmilyRose Post was NOT off topic as this Admin claims. If this new team leader or what ever he is post statements about Drakensang. Then @EmilyRose posted in the correct place a thread titled "State of DSO" give your feedback. @EmilyRose did exactually that gave her feedback on the State of DSO. The Admin/MOD excuse it was off topic, was just a way for them to censor something they didn't like or didn't agree with. BP just got rid of a bunch of MOD's few months ago for what ever reason only BP will really know, all we can do is speculate. Based on what happened to @EmilyRose I can see it is just another version of the same MOD's.

    BP has no idea what all this kind of censorship does to the game. Today chat was not about the game or the Christmas event. Rather everyone's opinion on how this new team leader censored @EmilyRose. BP has no idea how destructive they are with their censorship.
    Forum discuss, debate, argue. Short of two guys cussing one another out on forum Mod's/Admins should not touch any post by players.

    This gentleman's statement with all this nonsense about Team A, B, C raises more questions then it answers. Obvious he did not proof read what he wrote before hitting enter. He gives the dates May 2021-Jan 2022??????? Is he the new team or the old team. The old team was still here May 2021. He says in his statement he got the job Nov 30, is that 2021? Or Nov 2020 2019??? just how long has he been behind the scenes on the Drakensang team. If it is Nov 2021 it would have nothing to do with the old team. Then why is May 2021-Jan 2022 this new teams transition period??? It is Dec 2021 the transition is over.

    This gentleman states Team B left because of backlash from the community. I look at forum every day. I read nothing on forum of players cussing or belittling team B. Just what is he talking about "Backlash"??? They asked for players feedback and they got their feedback. Just because Team B did not like the feedback does not make it "backlash".

    There are just so many things wrong with this gentlemen's statements. But the biggest thing, this gentlemen says he does not do discord don't invite me. So why then did he put his statements on discord if he doesn't even use discord? That statement right there makes @EmilyRose post valid and on topic, use forum.
     
  3. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Mine was deleted too but I always record everything ;) so here it is, this is what I said (BTW quotes are from your and Emily's posts :p )

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    Not just those things should be officially published here on this forum ... but they are legally obligated to announce things on open public platform, such as this forum. Even if you read the terms of service ... which is a mutual contract between the player and BP ... they are claiming "cross my heart and hope to die" we will either inform you via email or public forum.
    On top of that, Discord is a closed 3rd party unvetted application which is not property of BP, it has its own terms of service that are not related with the game or BP. It is requiring both registration with an email and requiring a phone number verification (which is invasion of privacy). The forum is a public platform that anyone can read and you don't even have to create account or login to read it. BP is breaking its own terms ... which means players can do it too and they can't be held accountable.
    As far as I am concerned those social media closed groups can be potential hotbed for various crime activities.
    They like ... went to Asian market few years ago with "conquering China in mind" ... but returned owned really hard.
    They had only embarrassed themselves and were kicked out of Asia really fast ... and the only remaining small portion of the western market they are covering is not interested in Chinese gaming .
    "The Team B quit because the community attacked them" -- what a pile of manure ... I don't know even if 3 year old kids believe that. The "New Team" that never went public, no one saw them they exist ... was "attacked" by community. How can you attack ghost or entities that are not real or physically existing?
    Well I guess I was right once again
    it is all lies ... just read what they are saying ... they can't even come up with a convincing story :
    How can there be Team B and Team C when Team A left at start of September 2021?
    If the Team C's contract says they have transition time from May 2021 to January 2022 then that means :
    1. Team A was mistreated and BP hired Team C behind their back! Because in that period of time between May 2021 and September 2021 Team A (the last DSO Team) was the legit and existing DSO Dev Team!!! And in same time there was NO Team B ... because how can there be Team B when Team C already had contract from May 2021 to present and future
    OR
    2. It is all a lie ... they can't even make good lies

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  4. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Board Analyst

    dear Daniel Huang,
    we don't invite you to join other discord channel, but we invite you here on the official DSO forum ;)
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    "The Chinese team is terribly short-staffed" ---- in other words "The New Team that is me".
    It is better if they say "it is challenging times we have difficulties in this and that" players will understand ... but why always lying?
    A list of employees should be public.
    Also, it is a trend in the world right now , that game developers are publicly revealing their salaries in order to make other developers aware of the salary ranges per position and prevent them being terribly underpaid. Well ... you can do it too ;)
     
  6. SillySword

    SillySword Padavan

    Oops, I just realize the reason why all staff don't use the DSO forum.

    Thanks!
     
  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    We also know the reason why certain profiteers are sucking up to BP employees in closed and private groups ;)
     
  8. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Board Analyst

    I agree, but ....
    Maybe he expressed himself badly, it isn't always easy to translate one's thoughts correctly into another language.
    In my opinion it means that the transition between the previous GD and the new Chinese GD began in May 2021 and will end in January 2022. In the agreement the CM would probably have remained German, but there were internal disagreements for which CMJesse's teamA left and CMAndrew teamB took over,but he left because unable to remedy the desolate situation he inherited.
    So Daniel Huang who had received the job as GD offered himself as CM teamC in order not to leave the community without a dialogue.

    P.S. to use discord you don't need a phone number, just an email. Only if you want to create your own channel is required ;)
     
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  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Come on Emily, you know i am a tech guy :)
    I have discord account verified only by email, also I have my own server and I don't need a phone verification. I don't use discord nor social media.
    When we talk about Discord we put it in context of DSO ... so YES you need both email and phone verification in order to engage there.
    Put that aside for a moment, Discord is a 3rd party app that is not related to the game nor the company that is developing the game. They have their own terms of service and rules and people should finally understand the harm of Data Harvesting before it is too late ;)
    I have been using social media long time ago, Myspace, then Facebook, chatting on mIRC even earlier :) I stopped using social media for a quite some time now and the only limited use of social media I have is related to the game. There is a reason why most of the people in the IT are not using it.
    When you visit the forum you don't even need account to read. Also, have in mind that Fandom is also social media ... but no one even has to login in order to read or use all of the options, even though account creation with verification can be made with a press of a single button with the administrative tools.
    As for the team part:
    it doesn't matter what team what said ... they don't make decisions and are only employees.
    On top of it ... i don't think Chinese programmers can help with this game, even if they are only needed for coding.
     
  10. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    I appreciate trakilaki's posts. I am interested in the "behind the scenes" information. I also avoid social media. I started reading this forum a year after I started playing this game. I wanted to see if I was the only one who was unhappy. I figured out years ago that game owners are not really interested in what the players want. They just try things and see if more money comes in. I play a lot of different mmos. I will play a game for a while when something new happens. When the game gets tiresome I play another game. I do miss the time long ago when this game had a lot of players and it was easy to make friends.
     
  11. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Board Analyst

    I smile.
    I didn't know this.
    My Discord account is verfied only by email, if one day they will ask me my number phone I will give them my granmother phone ;)
    I'm not interested in social media, I only use them as a spectator, in fact I signed up for this game.
    I like to read and write on this forum because it is about my favorite game and I can do it anonymously :)
     
  12. CrOw4

    CrOw4 Forum Greenhorn

    i just log in after 9-8 years on forum ( i read every day foroum) just to say that its the most importal and interesting topic, after all this years....and to spare likes :p :p :p :p

    ps: sorry for bad english

    ps1:maybe i am offtopic and my post delete but the likes remaind :)
     
  13. AndJustice4All

    AndJustice4All Forum Greenhorn

    so we can censor and ban at will :(
     
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  14. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    Thanks for making a handy collection of the relevant posts. Despite being a members of the official DSO Discord server, I don't have time to read through thousands of posts, so this is quite helpful.
     
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  15. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Board Analyst

    Today
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  16. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Exceptional Talent

    Hmmmmmm for a guy who says he doesn't do Discord. He sure posts a lot on Discord. Says one thing does another kinda guy. Thank you for the Information @EmilyRose
     
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  17. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Board Analyst

    Chests compensations
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  18. gbit

    gbit Forum Ambassador

    I want to ask to mods why, if we have an official forum, we must relay on someone to report here messages from discord (that is only one of many channel of information, and not the main I suggest)
    At least, inform the players on every channel at the same time.
    Personally I follow more the forum but I need sometime to search info on discord because not all info are shared... It seems not fair to me.
    I'm not complaining about the situation but is strange that an official forum is so neglected from the staff.
    Thanks in advance for eventually answering.
     
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  19. remei

    remei Junior Expert

    While I agree, I guess that is because this is not official news (like patch or event info), just some kind of a sneak peek from one of the employees. The last patch notes have official info about chests, though there is no info about since and until when they are available, nor that it can be bought on all characters - this info is kinda important indeed.
     
  20. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    There are multiple reasons, but basically it boils down to:
    1. BP suck at communication. They always shift the blame on the current dev team ... but teams are changing and the problems remain, meaning the fish stinks from the head.
    2. they can't be held legally accountable when using external 3rd party applications it is clearly stated in the ToS. People should read and understand the ToS.
     
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