Improving the moon events

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  1. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Full Moon

    1)Make the drop of silverstones scale with difficulty in the silvermine, since their drops is always the same for every difficulty, making it useless to farm that map during the day in difficulties above normal
    2)The white wolf should drop from the cursed amphora in varholm and varholm under the bloodmoon, since the defense event appear to be shelved
    3)Introduce a repeatable quest that will reward players with a vial of blood after completition
    The quest should be like killing x number of werewolves, similar to the old quest in the old new moon event( the one that rewarded scroll to summon karabossa after killing 2000 enemies)
    4) make vargulf an actual boss of the event, so like the blood mage it could drop draken cores and the speed rune

    New Moon

    1) introduce a cursed amphora in blackborg, the boss would drop wood,event progress when they event is runnig, draken, scroll and the frosty brooms
    2) introduce a repeatable quest that rewards a scroll to enter either realm
    3) Both bosses should drop a speed rune like the blood mage
    4)Suggested by @Moot:wood drop in blackborg should scale with difficulties

    Discuss
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2018
  2. Shansurri

    Shansurri Active Author

    I like it. Let it be so. :p
     
  3. Moot

    Moot Active Author

    You forgot make wood drops scale with difficulty for new moon... that's also a pain in the absorber
     
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  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Another welcome change would be if they increased the drop size, but lowered the drop rate of the progress with mini-bosses dropping a minimum amount like in the Full Moon. That way, we'd really see the impact of the higher difficulties reflect in the drops. Right now the drops are (2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6) so there is little incentive to do Infernal. But if the base drops from monsters were five times as much (10, 15, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28), but only dropped 20% as often, you would actually get more progress in the higher difficulties. For example, if you were in Infernal II and got 50 drops, you'd only get 250 progress, but if you got 50*0.2=10 drops of 27 for a total of 270 progress.
     
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  5. Jhinstalock

    Jhinstalock Active Author

    Wood drop is horrendous in New Moon. There aren't enough trees on the map either. Changing 1 or both of those would make it much nicer for people doing Normal-Fatal.
     
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  6. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    @trakilaki What dost thou think,o master builder?
     
  7. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    I do not agree with this, since I have it and I am jelous :D
     
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  8. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    unfortunately for you we do not care about selfishness and your self esteem issues, this is not the place to solve them

    Since the collectors bag give bonuses, it needs to be obtainable to everyone who puts the work

    The needs of the many trump your selfish desire to be a special snowflake
     
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  9. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    There is no need to be this rude, man.
    Count up to 10 the next time you wanna write something.
    I remember I did over 70-80 runs to get that mount. Adding it as a drop from Cursed Amphora make it too easy.
     
  10. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    I do not care about your feelings, kiddo, so i'll be rude

    Amphoras are already rare enough
    And then the drop of the wolf rare as well

    Chances are, most would probably do much more to obtain the white wolf than you did in that event

    And since that event isn't being run anymore and the wolf is needed to complete the collectors bag, this is the way to make it obtainable
    [EDIT]
     
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  11. Erebus

    Erebus User

    There's a very thin line between being blunt and being abusive, try to keep that in mind when you post, you and everyone knows we welcome polite, well thought, and civilized discussion, if you decide to turn your own post into a manure flinging contest, you can be sure it'll go to oblivion before you can finish typing "White wolf".

    Speaking of which, us in the EN team have been asking/pushing repeatedly for currently unobtainable items that are part of the Collector's bag to make it back into the reward pool of other events, or in reworked versions of the events where they were originally obtained, like the Essence spouts from the DoE event.

    As per the suggested improvements, we'll pass them on depending on viability and support from other players, best regards.
     
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  12. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    What about the AS rune that drops from the mage? What if it also dropped at magotina and kara?
     
  13. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    I made that suggestion, maybe i should have been more specific, but by speed rune i mean attack speed rune
     
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  14. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    Whether you like it or not, my point is that farming 10 Realm Frags takes nothing, while farming those Ice-something to enter minievent map took a lot more efforts. That's all.

    About the other suggestions I do agree.
     
  15. Conqueror21

    Conqueror21 Forum Apprentice

    Thanks to you I think I just figured out something that's missing from the moon events:
    pets.The idea of a bloody spout for full moon (like the Desert of essences event pet but covered in blood) ,offering hp regeneration seems to me like a good idea.It would be one that could be crafted with something like 999 shining silver essence,100x Vargulf's claw,99 pebble and 50 wolfsbanes or something similar.To my mind the new moon event is not even quite as challenging as the full moon.To begin with,2 of it's items (the witch seeker belt and pauldors)are basically obtainable only with draken.I think that a reward chest similar to this one of the full moon,could be a pretty good motivation.Another change that could be made,would be to bring the Moonlit lunar blossoms back.What is the point of having the new moon-store in Kingshill if they are not obtainable in the event?
     
  16. MademoiselleCaramel

    MademoiselleCaramel Junior Expert

    Maybe on New Moon map should be some wood mini boss who will regularly drop 15,20,25 woods?
     
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  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    As a Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of DSO I say NO!
    The white wolf can be obtainable from a new event but not from New or Full Moon.
    speed Rune? Are you referring to 2H attack speed rune?
    if that is the case ... my answer is No. You have your Bloodmage go farm it ... he is dropping 2H set after all. If Vargulf should drop rune that should be 1H rune of celerity. It makes more sense ... Vargulf drops 1H set and the other players that are not using 2H can make use of it.
    As for the other things ... sure , why not.
     
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  18. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    Yes, i meant the 2 hand attack speed rune

    Your reasoning makes sense, but since those runes are already obtainable from event progress, i thought than it would be better if there were more chances to drop the 2h speed rune, since its much rarer
    It would be good if it also dropped the 1h rune
    The most important part is making him a proper boss and having him drop draken cores, with runes as bonus to speed up the building of attack speed

    About the wolf, the most important thing is getting it
    The defense events appear to be shelved
    Since full moon is about wolves, i guess it should drop there
    They can implement a new event, the wolf has to be obtainable

    But the amphora is rare and the drop of the wolf is rare

    The probability to get it is very low
    Many would have to do hundreds of runs to get it

    And i did spend effort into doing that minievent, i didn't get the wolf
    Why should i be denied the chance to get it, because someone doesn't feel like a special snowflake when others got something he already has?
     
  19. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I did a similar amount of ruins and didn't get it. I've also been trying for the black wolf since it was released and still not have it either, so no, adding it to one of those purple amphora would not "make it too easy."
    Except it isn't as easy as 10 frags. The amphoras don't show up every run and even when they so, the odds of getting the black wolf is really low. Based on my experiences, the dozens/hundreds of sets of 10 frags for a low chance at another low chance puts the black wolf rather on par with the white wolf unless you got lucky with one or both of them.
    Using that logic, they should have never brought back the Terror Horse, the chameleon costume, Native American costume, etc because I got them special the first time they came out and no one else should be able to obtain those items if they were unlucky or are new. How many items that you have came out before you started playing, and you've only gotten simply because the devs added it to another event or released it in the store?
     
  20. Shiro

    Shiro Padavan

    Idk, I play since ~july 2012...

    I don't understand what's your problem with my opinion. I'm not a dev so it won't make any difference whether if I agree or not.

    Also
    Saying that I don't like the idea of adding it to Cursed Amphoras doesn't mean I don't like it to be added in general.


    You're a "Living Forum Legend" (and I guess it is a high "rank"), so it isn't needed to say that you can join a team and enter one at a time untill one of the group memebers find the cursed amphora ( = 1/5 frags used)...

    That being said, I'd be far more ok with adding it as a drop from Vargulf (maybe at the same drop chance as the Brooms), since he's a (were)wolf and he also summon white wolves.
     
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