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  1. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    Each of us remembers certain items from the game that BP has removed and we do not know when and whether they will come back.
    I have an idea of how some items could look in the future of this game and I will show you my ideas.

    I am asking for forgiveness and relative not hating me.

    Q6 Mortis set.

    Q11 Destructor set (old Mechanical Tools)

    Some of old unique items which looks good and some players may miss them in game
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  2. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    That set would be crap.
    I'm writing my own suggestion for that set in a separate thread soon.

    Mechanical Tools should return to Scaling Normal Dungeons.
    The PW Destructor set should be the amulet and the torso.

    Bone Pauldrons: Would be ok in SND, if those were brought to the Kingshill region.
    Dimensional Rift Staff: Ok for a worldly drop.
    Disaster: Just give it more damage in the unique value, maybe a Q6 possible drop? (like torso in Q1)
    Remin's Battle Harness: Ok, worldly drop?
    Ring of Inner Fortitude: Ok, maybe it could be the Q11 ring?

    More actually usable uniques = better.

    Just we need some good 1h weapons... and some sets that would fit them. Executor set could be brought back with some %WD on 1h... not sure in what event though, as new moon has enough uniques.
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  3. _G_R_A_M_P_S_

    _G_R_A_M_P_S_ Old Hand

    The items look ok/fair and usable. It gives room for different then the now standard builds. You have my compliments.
    Except for the mortis set. But hey, i never liked the stacking energy idea.
  4. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    Why? :D
    Gwenfara set is great if someone would play on 1h :)

    Not so bad if you know how it can work. This set is nor too op and not too bad.
    You kill mobs with magic misille when you need back your HP and you use frozen nova when you are surrounded by mobs. You have 100 energy and put stain on your location and mobs dont kill you and dont shot to you. This will be simply on maps but useless on bosses (except arachna)
  5. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    The bone pauldrons look god at first sight and then u realise we have khalys which do the exact same job but give u atack speed too.
    The ring for mana is ok
    Disaster would be just trash , 15% dmg but that for my char with 59-62k dmg is like 2000 dmg.... so i must remove q7, q4 or blood weapon for ......2000 dmg ? ye never gonna happen , blood moon does this but better

    The mechanical set with that set bonus will never be added because with q8 u essentially regenerate 12 mana per cast whi makes magic missle ( a skill made to return mana on bosses specifically ) useless

    why is crit dmg everywhere ? its so easy to get max , put other stat, this stat will just make them worthless

    and i would luke to know when will i be able to stack the mortis set by using frost nova or magic missle ? In a group never so its like u dont have the set
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2019
  6. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    First of all this is JUST idea so stop hating everything.
    You don't need change blood weapon for disaster, this is not end game uni. This is just 'next useless crap' from world maps.

    I don't change mechanical set. Mechanical tools give the same set bonuses just for 3 parts from 7 soo if someone have this set and q8 set they still have op combo.

    And why crit dmg? Beacouse old Diamensional Rift Staff has 140% crit dmg and 2 mana/sec and for Disaster I want add destruction values

    On q9 set bonus is nothing special too. These water balls can't kill mobs. Q6 is good set for solo farm harder maps. But my bad, I can change skills for Death energy for 'Each stunned enemies with frost nova and frozen wind generate energy'

    I think better will be change speed of Disaster for 0.95 and this will be great
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2019
  7. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    what hate ... im telling u what to change to make the items more viable and then more likely to be put , stop being offended
  8. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    Updated items!

    Q6 set 2 variants
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    Meteor something like Murot meteor.

    Q11 set (qith q8 was 2x more better than magic missile, now few better with mana regeneration but required q8 set)

    And other items with few changes and ring with tier
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    Remins armor changed only 15%, that it would not be better than Witch seeker
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  9. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    the problem with crit dmg is that now you can simply max it out easily with 2 hand weapons, the bonuses you put are redundant
    You can easily reach the cap of 400%

    Hell, attack speed is probably going to be more useful even though it caps at 4,000, but that's not easily reachable to 2 handers, although the last break point that i know of is at 3,600 or something like that

    Perhaps increases in mana and mana regeneration are going to be the best bonuses and also defensive bonuses will be good too

    Also, what's the point of having specialized resistances? all resistances should be increased in bonuses, there's really no point
  10. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Pro

    I just change this what was in this weapon for % bonuses, I don't want change all bonuses from this weapon

    Specialised resistance is BP tactic not mine. In all parallel world items you have + resistance, just in khaly helmet and meduza amulet you have all resistance
  11. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    I think that as you focus on creating items with:
    + x crit
    + x damage
    + x resistance
    you will not be able to change anything in the game, because the feedback will always be: "but that does not allow you to have better stats than using this other item."
    At most someone will change the equipment to be dressed differently and continue playing as others, with the same statistics, the same tactics and skills.
    All the sets should allow to have the same or very similar statistics and thus make people try different sets to use different skills according to what you equip.
    I think that if you want to change something in the game, the next items or sets should be more of the style of q7, that allow you to enhance specific skills and so each player would use different skills powered by their set and not all doing the same on a map.
  12. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Pls no. There is a reason why q7 is op for all classes except for mages, better rework the other sets adn make them good like q7. If you create new op sets the weak ones will still be weak, and it the end the effect will be the same
  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Don't pay attention to shills ... his last sentence contradicts the previous one.
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  14. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    You did not understand the point.
    I'm not saying that we need new op sets, but sets which change the way you can play or abilities you will use the most, as it happens with q7 or, another example, dunes set, which gives you whirls with different bonuses depending the ability you use to active it, etc.
    With this I mean changing the mechanics and the way you can play or interact vs different bosses, being able to use different abilities that are not the usual powering them in some way, changing the type of damage (fire damage converted into ice damage, for example), etc.
    This doesn't mean creating OP sets.
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2019
  15. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    The other sets do that the problem is that they arent op and arent viable. Example ranger q4 changes scattershot but is nto as op as q7 therefore q7 just comes on top.
  16. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    But that "problem" will always exist, the truth is that q7 is the best option for damage and that's why majority of players are using it.
    This doesn't mean that some of the other sets are not viable, because they are.
    In the moment that any set offers better performance than q7, the same majority of people will change the set, but that will not solve a problem of diversity, but will substitute one set for another to continue playing as they ever did, and then people will start complain about the new set being 'Q7 2.0'.
    If you want to counteract a set that offers you play with specific skills to enhance the damage and change game mechanics, you can not pretend to unseat the set of q7 by doing basic sets (by this I mean sets that do not offer anything more than: + x crit / damage / resistances)
    If you want to solve a diversity problem, maybe what I wrote before helps a bit creating a new way to play Drakensang.
  17. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    but q4 enchances you scatter shot , but just as i said its not q7. Actally q4 can be viable but the amount of work u need to do is painfull.I dont know what set are u gonna make that is bettr than 2 sec EA spam ..unless its broken even more than q7
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2019
  18. MaxDisappointed

    MaxDisappointed Forum Master

    You are focusing in creating a better set than q7 instead of just creating good sets which change mechanics and gameplay and maybe nerf in some way the potential of q7 to equal it to the rest of new sets focused on new ways to play and uses of the abilities.
    Nothing is going to change creating basic sets, we don't need + x crit when with any 2h weapon you reach max crit with enchantments (even without platinum lines), there is no point in continue doing basic sets with useless bonuses, we need new mechanics.
  19. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    i would also love to see a reworked essence set and being able to enter shanri la again
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