Feedback (New) New Moon Event (Post R194)

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  1. †~~Grim~~†

    †~~Grim~~† Forum Greenhorn

    Everything in the game is designed to frustrate you into spending cash to complete pre-events and events faster.

    I love the game but understanding this fact is essential. It will not change unless profits dip. It's the nature of for profit gaming.
  2. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    Does any one have the cost list for the gear/weapons per tiert??
    I know normal weapon is 1500, and painful is 1810 (or close to that) any one have prices for Excru, Fatal, Infernal??


    p.s. Yes, I seen Trakis warning about not buying new moon gear just yet :))
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2017
  3. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    Excruciating is 2200. I haven't done fatal or infernal.
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  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    This latest "improvement" is a step in the right direction and long overdue.

    Still way too much grind compared to full moon and the rewards could use a boost.

    The price of summoning the boss needs to be adjusted also.

    I'm still not sure if I like the buying of items after killing a boss. It seems to be more of a way to get players to spend real money than a way to help players, but at least it does make up for the very piss poor drop rate of uniques.
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  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

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  6. ViktorG75

    ViktorG75 Active Author

    So, ON NORMAL, we get 2, 3 and 5 drop of Fairy Fire. And, what is the difference between this and old drop? There is none. On the contrary, because of more mobs on the map, time to fill progress bar are longer than before. Now, the Fairy Fire drop is ~ 20% better, BUT the number of mobs are almost doubled.
    For now, in this event, my interest are only runes, and i would not mind to receive less Scrolls for shorter progress bar.
  7. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Karabosa set should have on 25 stack bonus 15% movement speed and 30% max dmg, and this is shown on the info icon when i reach 25 staks but after my math i just get about 15% max dmg .
    Can anyone make the math for DK maybe i-m wrong with something.
    Can someone put a image with the belt rank 0? is 1500 drakens?
  8. anolajen

    anolajen Someday Author

    viktor: drop got increased from 1 to 1 2 3 5 it takes like 3 times les time with same amount needed ... still much longer than full moon ( but full moon alsorequires to to farm essences wolfbanes... ) also you dont have to return from dead ends now over and over

    we need however still some tweaks

    1) missing cursed amphora
    2) loot from bosses feels low just cores and rarely unique ... before they dropped blossoms .. would be nice to have allways few drakens like old kara or few fairy fires just something to avoid leaving with empty hands
    3) repeatable quest rewards it takes lot of pickups... would be fine if it granted 50 wood +- instead 10
    4) wood drop doesnt scale with difficulty and thats awfull on higher difficulties you get progress faster = more scrolls but no wood to kill them drop should scale same as progress

    demon: most bonuses to dmg are just added to damage bonus didnt tested this one yes but if its true what you say its likely
    so if you have 5k base damage 100% damage increase you end with 10 k damage in stats ... however 10% to damage will lead to 5k + 110% = 10500 and not 10k *1,1 = 11k
  9. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Same problem with witch seeker set.Increase damage is put after they increase that maximum damage and that make the Karabosa set and Witcher set undesirable on your build.
    So if you have increase damage on your build ~100% or more, that increase maximum damage will give you just half damage form what you see on the set bonuses.
  10. ViktorG75

    ViktorG75 Active Author

    You forgot to put this in the your equation: "...BUT the number of mobs are almost doubled". It takes more time than before to clear the map. And time is that we dont have enough.
  11. geoff1

    geoff1 Someday Author

    definate improvement but without more work on drops it will never be as popular as full moon
  12. galadriale

    galadriale Junior Expert

    I dislike the timed blessing after spending 50 fariywood, it should not be timed. This makes you get fewer runs in fatal or above levels, not to mention the low unique droprates, AND not to mention the number of times it takes to get the desired values of enchantments..

    Also dislike The requirement of 200 or more fairywoods for calling boss again. It discourage making more runs.

    The stack of fairy wood should increase to 10, 20 at least; while fairy fire should be 20, 50 with increase drop rate. Otherwise can't compensate the time for the lengthy progress bar. The lengthy progress bar is the major issues in recent events. Increasing the time allowed will not get more people to complete it because the problem is dullness and too many runs. If you want people to enjoy and spend more time, this would not achieve this aim. As usual, keep designing new emotes, costumes, pets and mounts (more diversified species, not only changing the color or dress on the outside), more access to runes and clover (i.e.: drop by mobs), more drakens on scale (i.e.: 100 - 500). Think of this in the player's perspective will help a lot. As far as I see, many people commented on how you just think in a way to get people pay to complete events. This mindset will not help the game development.

    For witch seeker set, Although the armor, hp and damage has been increased, the unique high critical hit rate of this set is lost. should bring back 33% increase critical hit rate. The set should add enchantment for helemt: random base value of critical hit, poutron: random base value for resistance + change % increase in armour of item to % increase in resistance of item to bring back the unique crtical hit rate and resistance value of this set.

    Thank you!
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2017
  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Your math is wrong.

    % Max damage is included in the same step as the calculation for % damage. If you have 20% damage from a torso and 50% damage from Knowledge points for a total of 70% increased damage, your "base" damage is multiplied by 1.70. If you have the full stack and are getting 30% max damage, the "base" min damage would still be multiplied by 1.7, but your "base" max damage would be multiplied by 2.00. If you divide 2.00/1.70, you get 1.176. That means, although you gained 30% max damage, you only observe your max damage increasing by about 17.6%. You can see that this is rather close to your example. You will also see less gains than you would expect when you are using essence because essence is also calculated in the same step.

    P.S. If it were "exactly" a 15% increase when you had the full stack of 30% max damage, then I could tell you that your % damage before the 30% max damage was a total of +100% from all sources because 2.30/2.00=1.15.
  14. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Regarding what you say here both set not worth for top builds.They scale only max dmg and your critical hits can have a bigger range of values.Maybe for bosses but i dont think is worth to lose Dragan for any of the white or black spider set.Witcher set can fit now at least 2 pieces shoulders and belt because can be useful that 11% speed and you dont brake any other set.Thank you.
  15. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Happy to help. I've been thinking a lot about what I can do with these new sets and I have a couple of ideas. I you are using Dragan/Q8, then this event has almost nothing for you. If you are not using Q8, then there might still be a use with Dragan to get some crit.
  16. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Guest

    @anolajen Please stop making off topic posts and persuading the players they are wrong, in all threads.
    Let them have their say. Their opinion is as much important as yours is.

  17. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    Agreed. So far out of my drops I have got some nice T3 Tenebrous boots and adornment. Still have more boss farming to do and will be looking for the same in the Frigid items. Some interesting possible combinations with these along the Bellicose gloves & helm and Dragan rings I have.

    On the topic of the event uniques the big bummer for me is that [SELF EDIT] short bow. I have actually had more of those drop than anything other item (3 so far.) It's not even a good short bow by current standards as it has the old attack speed :rolleyes: (not that I would use it anyway.)

    Otherwise I am pleased with this event. All the old issues have been fixed as far as I am concerned. The increased mobs along with choice of difficulty even makes for decent general farming. An additional source of Draken cores and IFs are welcome as well. The neat amphora have been a fairly good source of extra fairy wood for me too.

    Ofc, as expected, the rework has brought some new issues. First, the cost of the summoning the boss again. I have been doing the 200 each time but this will not be sustainable beyond this month. Second the ridiculous rewards for the repeatable quests. Though Pummrana's quest does have a silver lining in the way of more progress & loot drops from the extra mobs.

    Luck be with ye,
  18. SillySword

    SillySword Regular

    1. Personally I don't know it's better or not for the renew New New Moon event. Is it a more efficient way to play? Maybe I will try painful or higher level next time.
    2. I got a T0 unique adornment with a golden line of critical hit rate 610, but the value is much lower than normal item can have, 750-800.
    3. How can I obtain the two achievements of New New Moon event now?
    4. There is no more Blossom. Do I have to trade something for it now?

  19. alfrou

    alfrou Forum Apprentice

    Hi, I would appriciate some help here. I got 4 identical tier 1 unique fridge hatchets from white spider during last event. I tried to use them at the workbench but got msg these items cannot be combined. Is that a bug? I thought I was supposed to get a tier 2 item when combining 4 identical tier 1 . I would appreciate any help. I don't know if I am doing something wrong. Thanks.
  20. AbradolfLincler

    AbradolfLincler Someday Author

    SillySword, from now on blossoms will not drop. you can trade your old blossoms for things at the witches in kingshill. you can now do both sides of the quests for the white and black witch to receive the achievements from both. you do not have to pick one or the other. kill white which one time, kill black witch one time and the achievements should be complete.

    alfrou, combining unique items of the same tier no longer available in DSO. you must do a higher difficulty to receive a higher tier item.

    hope this helps.
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