PVP is unfair to dragonknights

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  1. theajkula1

    theajkula1 Forum Greenhorn

    how can i write to game editors, anybody? The solo pvp is really unfair to dragonknights! All other classes shoot from the distance and run away, only dragonknights must approach to the enemy. Classes should fight within the same class. maybe i should choose another class 15 years ago but it´s still unfair!
     
  2. Cyanogen

    Cyanogen Forum Apprentice

    Dk best class for solo pvp you really ?
    Not need abilities for playıng dk class
     
  3. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Baron

    yes yes because it does not take skill to get to a target if you have low resist while ranged classes has resist damaging skills.
    Anyways he was complaining and by all means dks, have it rough both in pve and pvp.
    You were just telling him that he doesnt need any skills.
    This is not supposed to be a class war, he only logged a complaint, which is something that you can do too.
     
  4. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Veteran

    You can't.

    Yeah, no other class has a weapon that grants them mace-level damage on top of sword-level speed and axe-level crit! DK has the new moon weapon. If that is nerfed to the level of the other classes, we can start talking about rebalancing anything else.

    But DK has skills that make it easier. Jump, charge, run speed buff, dragon hide, and exploding thrown axe (underground fireball). Not even talking about skills like Outburst or BWS/MWS which have quite a large AoE and are very easy to land.

    Which makes no sense.

    What 15 years ago :D DSO is not even that old.

    Maybe I'm misjudging you, but I think you're a newcomer who had his back kicked by a cheater, you didn't know that was a cheater, and now you're angry at other classes so you're making this thread, and you're trying to sound like an old player.
     
  5. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Baron

    Gwenfara bow, and as far as memory serves me it does not come close to mace level damage.
    It is axe damage the same values as Q2
    I would know, unless they changed it.
    Also the weapon has the same standard for all characters, unlike the gwenfara weapon which has mace level damage for all classes except dk and super damage for rangers.
    While dks lack resist, which mages have plenty of skills to bite out the weakness all other classes has that they are not afflicted to.
    Like i said I do not wish to make this a class war.
     
  6. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Veteran

    Gwenfara bow has no concentration cost reduction, which is crucial to ranger.

    DKs have as much resist as anyone else, and not that much less than armor. DKs have good healing and defence buffs... on top of that they can simply avoid getting hit, just like every other class does.
     
  7. Phyrix

    Phyrix Forum Baron

    We do, yes.
    However we do not deal elemental damage in the arena, while mages does do elemental damage, and considering the amount of damage your elemental damage is able to deal in pvp, I would tend to refrain from bringing resist into the discussion if i was a mage personally.
    But while we are at it, funny how every single mob and mini and boss has their own levels of armor.
    I mean a mini in new moon gets a 120k crit while the beetle in the desert gets a 95k crit from exactly the same damage, while herald in scaling dungeons gets a 160k crit from the very same attack, all solo all the same stats and all the same attack.
    Its interesting but however its commonly known that well not bosses but mobs and minis in general share the same lowered amount of resist in comparison to the amount of armor they can have. Which leads to dk performing poorer in pve by quite a margin, while other classes have armor break built into their commonly used attacks dks have to add a separate attack for armor break.
    But oh wait it does not stop there, no sir it does not.
    Firstly the common denomination that we have regen is quite invalid since we are actually in the middle of mobs fighting so we need that regen and that hp, oh boy and I can make a list of games where all melle dps and tank classes share the common higher hp than other classes.
    Which brings me to a point and the point is that the higher hp is literally no excuse for a dk to have lower dps, and on the contrary, since most nearly all dks choose to go 2h they should not be punished for choosing to be dps.
    You say dks should be tanks I say boo hoo there is no written book that stipulates the only melee class in the game should be confined to lower damage just because they chose melee.
    EDIT:
    Apologies I see now that the other classes do not get crit on that new moon weapon.
    Added:
    The wolf slayer weapon does have the same standard for all classes and only .18 slower attack speed base
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2019

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