Suggestion Ranger Q7

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You want it Q7 set to have it back 3sec..?

Poll closed Feb 27, 2019.
  1. Yes!

    13 vote(s)
  2. No!

    22 vote(s)
  3. I don't care.

    3 vote(s)
  4. No ranger are to OP already.

    3 vote(s)
  1. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    I only want to say, the Q7 set for rangers give it only two sec and this is the shortest from all class. (now u will say we have 40% chance with net to use all the times).
    So we have three sec in the past but a lot of the players cry about net in pvp and devs. cut one sec, but now don't matter with this gearless pvp where sets don't count. Give it to us rangers three sec back will help a lot. Is very hard when us are in a fight with a boss and we even dont trow the net good and need to move/evasion from hes attack. Please do not be hater with me, i know a lot of another class will do not want this change for rangers, but with what will hurt your gameplay if this will come back? You can say your opinion if yes or no and why..

    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019
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  2. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    My character is a ranger and i think that it is fine as it is right now! Our attack speed can at least go to 3.000 so we are able to shoot 6 of those explosive arrows in 2sec when we throw the net(+1 or 2 with mana cost). If we had 3s we would shoot 9 of them and i think that it would be too much! We are already op at pve so i dont get it why to change to 3s again... If u want to shoot some more of those arrows take a buff!
  3. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Overlooker

    With good speed buff is more than enough. Get more speed and stop whining.

    I voted just "No", because the ranger is not OP, the set is the problem and the thing that shouldn't have been added in the first place... we need just good unique longbows and it'll be all clear.
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  4. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    "No" vote. Same reasons.
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  5. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    I voted "No" and even tho' I do enjoy my Hoaxbow Set, I also think we need good unique longbows and the problem will be solved.
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  6. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    Ehh why not we are rangers the most rich from all of them, let's buy buff 100g of each two hours and you will say; we dont have 100g!! 100g x3 if i play 6hrs 300gold and lets say 300days of playing in a year = 90k gold a pice of cake right? unitil i reach highter attack speed.

    I dont want to be a bad guy but a ranger without q7 set is equal ZERO in this game, i see some player try to show q4 for rangers worth it !!! No do not worth it, the q7 is our only good choice. If u have about 15hrs play in each day dso yes you can play with shortbow is your decision, but some ppl are work to do and jobs so i search for the best method to farm fastest!! And why you dont like q7 set for rangers ? I am curious only, you dont like the design or what? for me 90% matter the performance and 10% like they look...
  7. DreamWill

    DreamWill Old Hand

    I play as ranger who uses q7 set and i voted no.
    I play for fun and q7 is enough boring as It is now.
    If you really know how to use your skills you don't need q7 to clear maps (maybe it is slower than others correctly used) a no q7 ranger is still the best or at least n°2 in map clearing; q7 is necessary only to kill fast bosses, but you can carry a dwarf with you for that and have fun playing as a real ranger and not as a Rocket Launcher
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  8. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    Ok i know for sure now, we have rangers who hate rangers lol. If you guys don't like q7 don't use it. I like q7 bcs is the only good weapon for us. (fast kill map clean + boss)

    I want to be understood, rangers set lose one sec bcs to the pvp, now really dont matter anymore in arena. So in my opinion give it us back 3 sec and who dont like it, use a shortbow, q4 or wathever you want dear rangers haters. I like to be a rocket launcher, then play with another weapon, until for now ofc maybe in the future will apear new good sets not only sets to be and after we will melt.

    Ps! Ivtry to play with q4 last night and ughh so ugly, what is true is ok at cleaning monster but at boss. ..pff good luck!
  9. DreamWill

    DreamWill Old Hand

    Don't put in mouth words not said
    If I hate ranger I stop to play with it, I love ranger for its style, this is the reason I hate q7 for rangers: it's too trivial in my opinion, we have 14 nice skills, q7 requires only 2. I'd like other skills too, and have a reason to use them.
    This is the reason i use q7 too.

    Nice for you, I respect this, but I feel bored using always q7, it's only my personal feeling, please respect me as I respect you.
    This is the problem: other sets are garbage for us, so why don't you suggest to improve others? So q7 stops to be "the only good weapon" as you said and anyone can choose a good alternative and develop his personal gameplay.

    Please tell me what is wrong in my proposal
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2019
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  10. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You got it all wrong :)
    We have noob rangers who can't use anything else than Q7 :)
    Voted NO!
  11. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    Be serios men in each game if you play another not only dso are good skils and not so good skills i mean skill you will use always and skills only to be but a low using of them.
    You say we have 14 skills but what skills you can use? i will tell you the most important and here are;
    Deadly blow
    Hunting arrow
    Explozive arrow
    Thicket of thorns(i am not sure if i write correctly)
    Net - bcs of q7.

    U can tell me in pve you will use bird of pray, wolfs, precision shot,trap...etc kidding of me if u say you used.
    Ok you can use those skills in pvp, i use maybe all of them in arena but not pve.

    This is not my job, this are devs work to do. You think they do not know this, and never see our feedback about to few weapons in this game or sets?

    Or those noobs are to smart to use usless weapons/sets.
    Like i say early to @DreamWill if there are for each class 30 different skills then i am not forced to use all, exactly in the same way with those weapons set, we try to sort what is good and what do not worth. Cheers!
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2019
  12. DreamWill

    DreamWill Old Hand

    I think it's useless answer to you here what I use, probably you will not believe;) but if you play in heredur server you can contact me and I will show you, even though q7:)

    Then why did you do this suggestion?

    Nobody forces you to use all of them, but I don't be forced to use the same 3 every time because I start to feel bored very early, I'd like to have few different combos with about the same power to switch them and play different ways, if this is a crime then I am proud to be guilty
    I agree, but why should we have only one good choice?
  13. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    I voted NO too, because I'm ranger, because i hate noobs spamers , because have too much spamers in this game:cool:
    The net is important skill only with q7 set, with all another builds I use net rare, with 2 pts talent - no conc cost.
    I know few builds without HA for primary marker / dmg skill, we have trap, DS ,BDo_O All ranger skills work, and doing a good job when properly used.
    You like endless mindless spam- play with mage!
    Therefore - NO again.
    It is better to concentrate our efforts and all together must protest against ToT poison & BDs bleeding NERF vs bosses.
    Spamers BUG which is not "bug" :eek:
    Return the damage from bleeding and poison bunglers:mad::mad: The low damage from these rarely used skills vs boss is noting when compared to mages bug buff !
    :mad:We want the damage back:mad:
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  14. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    I play in heredur server and if u have this name like here i find you. I will w8 to see thise combination on inf4 in each PW you want.

    You miss understand me here i dont make suggestion for what set/new weapons the devs will add in the future. I make suggestion for 3sec on q7 set.

    Is very simple the devs. are busy with something else or are lazy/or the cost are to big to employ a good stuff to work on diversify of the game, in this case more weapons. I am agree this will be very nice.


    You fell smart when you use 2-3 skill extra than most of rangers?

    I do not understand why you hate spamers if this are the buff set on q7.
    I'm start to belive for those haters of q7, we are are robbers or hackers...NO we only play in our way, just you guys like to use it all skills.

    I say it already. Net - becose q7.

    Here i am agreed with all you say and is very true. Cheers!
  15. DreamWill

    DreamWill Old Hand

    Nice, yes i have the same nickname, but i still haven't a char very good enough for inf4, I could try buying hp tonics if it's the same for you, and idk if you can find me these days because I am very busy with real, more easier in the first days of march if you haven't any problems with this (I want ti be sure you don't think I am a coward:p)
    Ok, and I voted no because than it's really hard to make a good alternative, that I want...
    You don't forget that yes, they reduced q7 buff from 3 to 2 seconds, but they (later) decreased net's cd from 12 to 10, so if you had ti wait 9 seconds before now you need to wait only 8, so according to me is better than It was.
    I don't hate q7 users I am one of them too, i simply can't accept that someone says rangers are nothing without q7 and I want ti try to make a different build to show ti them that they are wrong, have you ever tried to go in a group without q7? Many people leave it only because they can't kick you, don't you think it's sad?
    This destroyed every possible different choice from q7, I am totally agree with this.
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2019
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  16. DamarèRo

    DamarèRo Junior Expert

    When you will have time, i play with hp buff almost all the time.

    If i am not mistake was a big adjustment for the all class or something like this, not only for rangers.

    See without q7 is really really bad for a ranger and 99% of players know ranger without q7 is almost nothing, you can try what build and skill you want in this time ...dmg output will be to low to matter for a good/ top group on great difficulty.
    And yes i play without q7 when i did not have it yet, only then.
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  17. navelko

    navelko Forum Apprentice

    - q7
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  18. Dodgerski

    Dodgerski Forum Greenhorn

    I dont know how do you all use q7 set on inf 4 that you need only two skills but when i play and i try to do it fast i use deadly blow,
    hunting arrow, explozive arrow, thicket of thorn , precision shot, dive, blade dance, adrenaline and wolf pack with only wolfs and bird of pray on sinlge runing target!
    Thicket of thorn i change by precision shoot on bosses. Some said too that love combos and same is with me but i dont imagine now to make some combo for exemple thicket of thorn and blade dance plus deadly blow on the end without q7 buff on inf 4. It would be impossible so i agree that plus one secand will add possibilitys to make more longer combos when q7 buff work. Thats all what "No" choice persons write mean that you use q7 buff and only use one thing what must be really noob style playing. I even dont want imagine what and how you doing on short bows or on this Berach set - 20 mins inf 4 on one map :D. So if you want fun than throw out explosive arrow on maps and use q7 buff on yours combos. It will make fun and no boring farming!

    DamarèRo great idea and i vote on yes for making ranger more fun play style on q7. From begining of 55lvl ranger was only nerfed, shorter q7 buff duration, weaker explosive arrow ( i think that was 3 nerfes on it), woolf pack is weak now on one shoot, even this tree man, nerf on blade dance (what was most op, with this time reduction). So i think it would be nice to add some buff for ranger at last to make ranger a little bit closer strong on bosses as is now dwarf. Dwarf is now most OP and fastes farmer.
    PS. sorry for my no native english!
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2019
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  19. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    This is the the TOP noob comment :D , you prefer other skills for combo with + 1 sek buf vs more 2-3 free EA + buf+ armor break ?!? o_Oo_Oo_O
    NO again !
  20. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Ok so classes right now are divided into 2 categories. 1balanced around q7 ranger, dwarf , Dk 2balanced around skills/ mage
    SO why most rangers prefer to have stronger q7 than more choices for fun gameplay ? So you all want the DK and Dwarf treatment with truly op set and most of the rangers hate mages who have all around good skill but dont have broken set and it all depends on all your combos?
    I want actually backed with arguments reason and not smt of the stuff "you hater"
    I dont want answers from @deliburan78 he is proven antilogic player

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