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  1. 9ndrei

    9ndrei Forum Expert

    Hi,

    I took a long hiatus from DSO (approx. 1 year?). I have now returned to a completely changed game and I'm reading that my old gear will not be as effective.

    My current 52 SW still uses the Staff of End time with Rings of Death, etc. I've only added a few legendary item, but the changes in the whole system being so dramatic, I feel a bit overwhelmed (sometimes second-guessing my decision to pick DSO up)

    Personally, I was a attack speed freak, always trying to improve on that, using a Mind control, singularity, destruction, singularity, lightning to finish up groups of mobs, but I'm now reading that the tide has turned on the 1h wands in favor of 2h staffs. Is that really the only option now?

    If the 2h staff is the right choice, what about the attack speed? What is the optimal, reachable %? It's heart breaking to go from 2 att speed to 1 and even mind numbing-ly boring. I've seen a table made by someone here in the forums, but I didn't understand it.

    What about the other gear? I've seen suggested mini-sets, so I could go from there until I get acquainted to the new crafting system.

    As I said, I'm only l52 now and I know the fight for the final gear should really start at 55, but I'll need to get into the changes as soon as possible.

    My favorite play style is agile, fast, quick (synonyms, yeah), DPS-ing, teleporting and using spells, not bulky SWs who can tank Mortis (if he's still the go-to dude to test your stuff).

    Any links you think I should be aware of, relating to Ablilities, Wisdom Points, Overall Gear will be greatly appreciated.

    PS: Would this find be a good legendary staff to start with for this level?
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  2. Shine2

    Shine2 S-Moderator Team Drakensang Online

    Hello 9ndrei and welcome back after a long hiatus. Good to see you! I will let members of our Community answer your questions but in the meantime you can have a look around the Forum and see for yourself how people build their toons and what equipment is being used at the moment;

    kindest regards.
     
  3. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    2 Handed Staffs are still the dominant force. 1 Handed wands are only usable in PvP. There is nothing You can do with a 1 Handed weapon on PvE dungeon crawls unless You are expecting to Tank.

    You can still get formidable attack speed. For a perfect build You can get 3.02 attack speed.
    However, if You are an attack speed freak, then You can get even more attack speed with the expense of other stats.
    if You have some old Sapphires and If you use one line from Weapon for example, you can reach 4.0+ attack speed.

    To get attack speed quickly:
    1. Do the moon events without missing
    2. Buy 2Handed attack speed runes from Zumpe when You have clovers
    3. Craft a Glove with attack speed
    4. Get Some sets that gives You more attack speed

    For sets, most people go with either Q4 or Q7 set and Witch seeker + Dragan set.

    I assume You probably don't have enough Materi to purchase Q4 or Q7 staff. So, the best for You at this point is to get Blood Rune Staff which is the easiest to get for a new player and will be really good.
     
  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Based on what experience are you claiming this?
    What is the evidence you can provide to back up the theory?
    Apart from my toon ... which is a ranger ... my friends are playing 1H in PvE too. I can instantly provide you a SW build with maximum possible attack speed and damage higher than mine with more than enough HP.

    You can still achieve that but it is a long and hard ride.
    BTW if you have old crafted legendary level 50 1H weapons I would suggest you to keep them.
     
  5. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    Based on my experience and knowledge of course.

    Fact 1: There are no sets or no Unique one hand weapons that gives any significant bonus to damage. On the other hand Q4/Q7 sets give a remarkable advantage to 2H weapons.

    Fact 2: Maximum Crit damage You can get from either One hand or two hand weapons is 5.0. It is very possible for 2H weapons to get close to that without expense of any other stats 4.6 seems to be a very possible figure. Also a 2H build can get 80% Critical Hit Rate at Infernal III mode. And so what is the advantage of having a Quiver? Hmm? You tell me.

    Fact 3: All my calculations points to that at high end, 2H build can get 320K DPS and with Q4/Q7 sets it should be 400k+ DPS, where as one hand build can get 140k barely with a shield or about 240k with a Quiver. So, what is the point?
     
  6. silverseas

    silverseas Forum Veteran

    1h mode just isn't "meta" at the moment. It's still viable, if you're wondering. I'm building a 1h+(still undecided on orb vs book) set on the side for fun, but since I don't have that much time to play, there is unfortunately nothing to show yet. Everything is still a bunch of random items crammed in my locker waiting for crafting. :D

    If you decide to go with the route of forging your own 1h set to mesh with your own playstyle, just don't be surprised if you get a lot of flak for it. I was playing DSO with a legendary 2h weapon at level 45, during a time when 2h SWs were deemed trash, so I certainly got a lot. (This was before the introduction of the lightning staff at Emilia, which I never bought.) You also won't find a lot of advice from others, so you'll have to do all the hard work yourself instead of just copy-pasta someone else's build that's proven to work.
     
  7. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Altough there arent many unique 1h weapons so only the sets will be the difference between the 1h set.
    Idk 1h bruiser melle ranger for me sounds awesome as hell being unkillable
     
  8. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    1h mele ranger is fact ! Yesterday I test mine ranger with 1h mele bild in q3 inf 1 fullmap solo , he fight slow , but he are almost immortal :) Full hp bild with non crafted weapon + only rings gliffed HP items http://prntscr.com/kvxtsc Sorry , I`m not Pvp player and I don`t have the ring from The Cube set . This bild have few specification and restriction- BD skill don`t afected by atack speed, all poison & elemental efects is good for map cleaning but not work vs boss ( DS poison & slow , all marking slow efect , q3 set cold dmg for DB too). Now I think for another bow - the cube one- for set bonus , gwenfara - for good base dmg & bonus , the wolf bow - for crit base .
    P.S.Now I test several variations without cube set - with 3/3 Dragan for more dmg , with q9 for more crit & set bonus , with q5 set+q1 armor+ long bow - for lowest conc cost... the test continues.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2018
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Based on your statement
    your knowledge is questionable and your experience nonexistent.

    For a start ... don't twist the words and stay to your statement. No one asked about DPH, DPI, DHL, NHL, DPS, MMS, SMS or PMS .
    There is nothing you can do with 1H weapon? Really?
    And you can only use it with a shield. Really?
    Funny ... we, players who are playing with 1H weapons can do pretty much everything in PvE ... WITHOUT shield.
    It is true that no significant buffs on 1H weapons or sets are existing but that doesn't mean "you can't do anything" with them.

    First you have omitted a very important thing:
    Attack speed freaks are interested in attack speed.
    Just because bandwagoners are playing with what the devs are telling them to play with ... other people are playing in their own way. Attack speed freaks are aiming for attack speed.

    Second ... you are talking about rangers while the OP is playing SW.
    I am playing a 1H ranger ... and i won't be saying anything more than what i have said in the past.
    But I will provide you a screenshot of my SW friend ... and you can't even match him close with any of your noob builds.

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    Include to that damage 2K more damage after full karabossa buff.
    Belt of Zeal could give another buff without losing anything in his base stats.

    The bottom line is ... don't try to falsely guide the other players into your bandwagoner's game approach.
    Even if there are no buffs on 1H weapons (like it is the case with 2H) the 1H build is more than capable of doing everything that 2H can ... at least they still can even though according to rumors the stupid devs will try to kill the 1H builds with the next release once and for all. But who cares the game is dead anyway ... thanks to those devs.

    Dude i have never seen such a bad build :D
    You can't kill anything with that build.
     
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  10. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    Dude i have never seen such a bad build :D
    You can't kill anything with that build.[/QUOTE]
    Dear mr Pro , with this bad bild I make fulllmap q3 inf 1 solo ;)Cheers
     
  11. stacker99

    stacker99 Forum Master

    Probably this run of Q3/Inf1 took one day for this build... Please, don't be silly!
     
  12. Aslandroth

    Aslandroth Regular

    In my opinion, this build is absolutely sick. Look at the crit rate and dmg. Coupled with that attack speed I bet the toon hits like a freight train. I've got an SW as my alt that I have been playing a little more recently. I have a good guild but still do a lot of solo work and for me, 2H was simply too hard to stay alive on Painful or above. I still struggle because I have nothing crafted, my gems are mostly unrefined and I am using the cube set at various tiers but this screenshot gives me optimism about the possibilities. I bet it is loads of fun to play and would love to know more about it.
     
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  13. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    I am not the one who is falsely guiding others. You are.
    I am 100% confident that my noob 2H build has more DPS against any boss in any mode than Your Pro 1H build. :D
     
  14. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    wrong and wrong again
    With a specific set up 1h can beat 2h on bosses stop spamming that 2h is better like every other blinded slave to the meta just like in real life you spit things that you had to learn but in fact you are not sure in what you are saying........
     
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  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    It is OK dude ... I understand you. You have not reached the ultimate enlightenment yet :)
    Any DPS, SMS or PMS calculation is inaccurate and false ... since it is a calculation based on a Utopian scenario. :)
    In order to get the things right you need to include everything into calculation: break points, probability, how much damage you will deal before you start running for your life ... etc etc.
    In short ... you can only make a close simulation (providing you are having nobel prize in math) that can only give you different outcomes every time.
     
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