State of DSO

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  1. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    Haven't played in about a year or so. What's changed in the past year? Last time I played the game the PvP was utter crap (gearless) and they had removed the choice of what PvP mode to play. I heard about a new 64-bit client, downloaded it and got the same crappy performance as before. What a shame, if only the performance was better like any other game then I might be playing more often. What else has changed? What's the current meta? Is the game dying?
     
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  2. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Hi! I'm not the right person to give you a full list of what's changed. But here are a few things that I see as quite game changing.


    Bosses got buffed, which has thrown most players from infernal 3-4 back to fatal-inf1.

    Items that were purchasable from merchants after boss has been defeated, are no longer purchasable -> Uniques have to be dropped now.

    We got transmog, which I was quite curious about and it actually made me go back to the game - to check it out. Equipment skins and dyes are quite costly (andermant). There's more I'm not happy about, but I won't elaborate on that here.

    Creater's tears have been removed. We got a scandalous compensation of 1:1 of gold. If you missed it and didn't use your tears on weapons, you got the gold, and now you have to farm for the weapon effects (kill 999 elite monsters with the respective weapon to unlock it).

    The DtU event has returned with several changes and additions. Multiple progress bars and such.

    The Kingshill Severs event has returned. It's been heavily modified (new maps, new boss, ...), they've added new uniques, pets; but I didn't play it a single bit, so Idk if it was good.

    Some gems got updated. Jewel of rage and Solstice star. Maybe some more, not sure now. There was a bit of an outrage about this, because some conversions were quite unfair, if I remember well.
    Also, some more special gems have been added.

    Gems can be now grinded to dust. Dust is used to craft more powerful gems. Not sure how many people can afford to use this feature.

    Cloak crafting + new unique cloaks (M'edusa's and Herald's cape).

    The current meta is the same as before.

    I don't play PvP anymore, but I think it's still the same as you described it.
     
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  3. Dzungla

    Dzungla Regular

    Why did you came back? How?! When you quit, you're done (when you willingly left the game) or you weren't left at all.

    Actually there is 10 letters you should (page bottom) add in your client after download it because default is still 32-bit

    Game is nor dying, its more live than ever! (you never know if you don't try).
     
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  4. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    nothing has really changed, the devs have managed to destroy the game even further and made it even worse, which is an achievement

    PVP is still hot garbage, they ruined PVE and now they are in the process of ruining events( for normal players of course, because the events seem to be designed to cater to cheaters)
     
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  5. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    Lol I came back because of the nostalgia. I’ve played loads of MMORPGs but Drakensang really stands out for me (or at least it used to). It was such a good game when it came to the character building system and the item configuration, etc. You won’t believe the utter crap that people are playing these days (EDIT just to name a few) so it’s sad to see DSO being ruined with every update, at least that’s how it was when I actively played the game.

    Oh and about the client, I did configure it correctly to run using 64-bit, but it seems the same performance-wise sadly.
     
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  6. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    when was it good? The customization options are nonexistent, there are games when you have far more ability to change how your character looks

    the reality is that this game had potential, however that potential was squandered because the devs wanted to money grab
     
  7. Javah

    Javah Forum Great Master

    Lol, more live than ever. I always appreciate ironic people.
     
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  8. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    I'm talking about the character customisation in terms of items/equipment that we craft and equip. The one great thing about DSO is the ability for a player to choose exactly what stats they want on their character although it's true that we are kinda forced to only use certain equipment. I'm not talking about visual customisation and frankly I don't even care about that. Many other MMORPGs that I've encountered recently are an even greater mess than DSO is right now (if that were even possible). And if you think the grinding is bad in DSO, I've seen games where it is 100 times worse. True, DSO has many negative things about it (P2W, bad PvP recently, endless grinding, etc.) but the mechanics are great and considering it's a free game, many paid MMORPGs can't even compete.
     
  9. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Advanced

    Compared to the pre 2014/2015 version of this game, the game is complete and utter trash ._. there's no variety, players do the same maps all the time, events suck as they are just huge grindfests which arent worth it :') and the transmogrification is stupid and annoying.
     
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  10. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    Lol I agree, but other MMORPGs are arguably much worse...
    Oh and I must say your mage is impressive, most impressive.
     
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    The PvP is still the same ... except it is even worse. It is completely bugged and full with cheaters.
    Just to prove how flawed the concept is ... I have won the first PvP season. Exactly as I expected not the most skilled and most dedicated players can win ... but those who understand the mechanics.
    The second PvP season ended recently ... and it was even worse. Winners are determined before the season even starts. And that would be cheaters and twinks with mentor bonus. All other players have no chance winning the season no matter how dedicated or skilled they are.
    What is so annoying about Customization?
    I find that feature one of the best made in the game.
    If you don't like customizing your gear you don't have to ... no one is forcing you. No F2P player can convince me they can't afford 2-5K andermant just to customize their gear.
    There are skins that can only be bought ... and that is fine. Paying for skins that are not affecting anyone's gameplay or causing imbalance is OK.
    Of course there is a room for some improvements ... but the feature itself is awesome.
    There is no difference if you are running x86 or x64. I get all the same freezing again and again.
    x64 OS can handle both 32bit and 64 bit applications. There are not much 32bit processors nowadays and almost all OS's are x64 (except for testing). People are telling fables of "how great x64 systems are compared to x86 systems" ... in reality x64 systems are having very few advantages over x86. The main driver for switching to 64 bit CPUs was the ability to handle larger amount of RAM opposed to x86's limitation to 4GB (no OS limitation included). Most of the apps nowadays don't even benefit from running on 64 bit platform and the performance is almost if not entirely the same.
    The advantage of 64 bit over 32 bit architecture is the greater speed because of the higher number of calculations per second. For a game ... that is what anyone would want to have ... especially for a CPU hungry game like DSO. But in same time GPU is being completely sidelined ... meaning it doesn't matter if you have a GPU beast or just average GPU ... as long as it meets the requirements.
    And the downside of 64 bit compared to 32 bit architecture is the use of more RAM.
    But since almost all CPUs and OSs nowadays are 64 bit there will be no difference and both 32bit and 64bit client versions would perform the same.

    They are ditching MacOS ... but not making Linux Client.
    That is a bad move.
    Most of the Windows 7 users are switching to Linux after the end of W7's life. (Seven would not be dead but it wouldn't get support and patches form MS ... which is not game changer anyway Xd). I am switching to Linux myself too.
    No sane person would run a piece of spying bloatware as Windows10 is.
    Linux as it is ... fast, reliable, customizable, cares for user protection ... etc ... is the OS for the future. MS is decaying fast and working only on military projects (as has always been working).
    Therefore this game should have native Linux Client instead of letting players find their own ways of playing on Linux.
     
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  12. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    How come there are so many cheaters in PvP now? Could you please elaborate? Was it a recent update that caused a surge of cheaters or something else?
     
  13. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    they have become more noticeable when they made the gearless pvp, but they existed before
     
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  14. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Count Count

    I'll add to that, the PvP update (gearless) drove many honest players away, which made the cheaters even more visible (the gearlessness of the PvP made them 100% distinguishable in 99% cases). Then, the honest players that stayed started leaving (PvP at least) too, and it led to the current state.

    Also, since they're not banning the cheaters, the amount of the cheaters had been steadily increasing for some time... until Jesse stated that they wouldn't ban anyone based on screenshots or videos. This made the amount of cheaters skyrocket, since they were made confident that they're impune.
     
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  15. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    May I ask what kind of cheaters they are? I’ve seen many bug abusers back in the day but idk what those scoundrels are up to now...
     
  16. sargon234

    sargon234 Forum Demigod

    they alter their statistics with programs or they use macros for example

    in other words, they confessed that they didn't care about cheaters
    I mean, in this case, what more proof do you need? a video or a screenshot should be enough

    It also makes me think that most of the whales that spend so much money in the game are cheaters
     
  17. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Advanced

    The feature is very good yes and it can be affordable to an extent, However the dye system is stupid and they should have never been changed .. i mean why didnt they just allow us to buy them with gold like always now we can fully change our gear? And why cant it be the same with normal transmog? A couple of gold coins per item that gets changed in the transmog system wouldn't hurt.
     
  18. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    I like the transmog thing overall, but there are a few aspects I'm not happy with:

    1. You pay andermant for each apply of the skin. So, if you apply skin A to your boots, you pay; then you apply skin B to the boots and you pay; then you decide you don't like B and want to get back to skin A, but you have to pay the same amount for it again.

    2. There are about 30 different shades of dyes, and they have become very expensive now. They still drop from monsters and chests, but there is no room to store them. Some people here already stated they wanted a special bag for them, and I agree, because if we were to store them all in the regular inventory, they would take up over 1 whole page.

    3. Now this may be just me, but the look of the character seems to be different in the "preview" window from the basic top-down view. In other words: Your character may look cool in the preview window, but then he looks stupid when you play. This may be because of the angle of the camera and the distance of it from the character that appears as less detailed, obviously.
    For this reason, I think it would be neat if we could somehow preview the look outside of the window, right in the game as the character moves and whatnot.
    For example I spent like a thousand ander for applying a skin only to spend more to get back to the previous one, because it looked bad in-game, unlike in the preview window where it looked nice :/

    4. Oh and I'd like to be able to apply 1 handed bow skins to 2 handed and vice versa.
    This could be a bit of a problem in case of other classes though :/
     
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  19. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Count Count

    While we're at it, I'd like to be able to apply two helmet skins to pauldrons each time... one helmet for each shoulder.
     
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  20. oOKellueHazeOo

    oOKellueHazeOo Advanced

    a 1handed cloaked wrath would look cool as a 2h appearence, Infact so would many items that are 1handed =)
     

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