Who wants to discuss PvP for archer (ranger)?

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  1. Valhöll

    Valhöll Someday Author

    A couple of days ago I decided to play again, so I went to PvP, 1 vs 1 and I don't see any rangers there. Have you ever wondered why the archer in the game was nicknamed a ranger? Does he have a couple of dead dogs or one dead tree, is that his connection to nature? There's a crow at 1km/h and a trap that only the blind can't see. Yes, he has speed (adrenaline), but in terms of mobility ranger is inferior to the tank and dwarf, maybe he is more mobile than a magician, but the magician is a tank, he does not need anywhere to run, the ranger needs to run.

    This is my point that the archer does not have special skills in PVP giving significant advantages This is an ordinary archer who has only an arrow, and several very predictable skills. I only speak for myself. Maybe I don't play well and others have an archer that tears everyone apart. Not weak, I don't want to watch kids get beaten up. I've played against an archer using the same arrow as the poison, and that's it, and nothing changes. All the traps, ravens, nets and other nonsense have practically no effect on the archer's dps in the PvP.

    1 round. The archer is trying to impose a close combat, I in turn try to keep the middle distance. And each of us can partially create his own style. I control him, he in turn has the ability to break into close combat. I didn't choose him, he was the only one who played. And his vinreite was around 70%.

    2 round. Now I'm playing against the war, and I try to keep my distance -- trying to find balance. I want to impose my rules in the first round and implement a medium to close combat mechanics, forcing my opponent to wait. Theoretically, in the final battle, I'd have a chance. By the way, his vinreite against me is 100%.

    Round 3. I see that the distance of an auto attack is so great that I just can't control anything. War runs faster, and there are skills of rapprochement; I can't fight. I have to; run, run, run! All my skills are ridiculous; I can't control even one second. Me, Forrest Gump.

    Only by playing against an archer do I have a substantial chance of winning. Playing against other classes, my chances of winning are negligible. And I've been waiting a long time to rebalance the classes and the arena itself, but time spent waiting is probably wasted. Or am I wrong?

    Bottom line: Do you believe in PvP content in DSO? Maybe it will happen on level 60? Is it possible to develop and balance the PvP system exclusively on alpha testing, while the concept itself is ready and already available on servers? If it is possible, why not revive Pvp and as a result the game as a whole, because Pvp is a competition, and under equal conditions for the chance of winning, many people will want to participate (of course, if it will be rewarded). And I'm not talking about Baribal, no, this award has no initial stage and as the final goal it will not be interesting now. I'm talking about exclusive skins, possibly raw materials and other useful resources, because we are miners )

    (there may be errors in the text, a lot)


    A lot of people think that if I record video; archer vs war, then I'm staring at war. Actually, it's not true, I'm just trying to get the developers' attention. And they need to deal with balance now instead of level 60. Because I don't want to play it anymore. And with bad balance in the arena, you'll just know everyone by their names. But everyone should be able to join this party and have fun. I go to pvp every six months and I don't see any change. It's stupid, and it's one of the reasons people are out of here.
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  2. wojtekwjk

    wojtekwjk Padavan

    Pvp is broken af and almost nobody plays it. End of discussion
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  3. Valhöll

    Valhöll Someday Author

    I know that, but still, there are excellent mechanics there. I only know one game with this range of possibilities, but where the balance is mercilessly destroyed. I think it's worth telling the developers that we're waiting for changes with the introduction of level 60 (at least) Maybe they're doing all that now, I don't know. I just want to believe it. I'll be sorry to leave the project because of stupid managers.
  4. elitecrew1031

    elitecrew1031 Regular

    Are you joking or you are actually serious ?
    SM is a headless chiken that run and heal use here and there his oil and use his qucik shot and hope he doesn't get murdered by DK/SW
    SW - annoying af perma slow while dealing insane dmg with 0 counterplay
    DK - Infinity atack speed and movement speed ( bug that every ''high elo'' DK is well aware of and abuse it really hard) + extra movement speed buff 3 stuns one it's dashes 10 sec god mode and the spicy flag
    Ranger - Balanced and still has chances vs DK/SW unlike SM but still they are less then 50% , only annoying thing is that his net hitbox is bigger but that doesn't matter if you aren't SM.
    What can I say ? Oh yea Clown fiesta
  5. Valhöll

    Valhöll Someday Author

    I'm talking about mechanics in general. I mean, the concept itself is not bad enough. But to eliminate all errors, you need periodic balance to find the equivalent opportunity. I'm not talking about averaging now, I'm talking about possibility.
    Thank you all for not coming to YouTube just to spit on the wall. I think a lot of people understand that everyone has problems and they need to be solved by everyone. It's not an archer's problem. PvP is a complicated topic, a topic of competition and so on, I know. But everybody understands that if you don't do anything, they just won't have any opponents to fight with. I'm happy for the thinking community. I have no ambition to become a "great warrior" when things get better, I will not be able to compete with you because of ping, but I will know that I have a chance, even when it is not obvious.
  6. Zardast

    Zardast Forum Apprentice

    You played pvp again for just 2 days and you want to make a discussion on pvp, no wonder why the forum is so bad

    Also, fyi, warriors' Fanaticism talent is bugged and they play all the time with extra attack/movement speed
  7. Valhöll

    Valhöll Someday Author

    The thing is, I know about Pvp games that are similar and not very similar. But I don't need to eat a barrel of shit to know it's shit. You can try a little bit and know the results +/-. You're not gonna eat it all out, are you? And I know about tank skills, I have a tank. Thanks for your time, dude, that was very informative.
  8. Valhöll

    Valhöll Someday Author

    In continuation of the topic, I would like to say that I am also very vulnerable to the dwarf. I lack the control or convergence skills that would allow me to use my stun skills. Everyone can see my trap, only tanks that can't destroy the trap fall into it. My crow is too kind to stick out your eyes )


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