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I see a lot of 2H DK's. To be honest, I'm not a fan of them. I like the sargon shield (+20% dmg) much more. It acts as a quiver.

Most 2H can reach up to 1100 dmg with 1.35 speed -> 1485 dmg/s
My, still new, 1H char gives already 700 dmg with 2.14 speed -> 1498 dmg/s

So I don't see any advantage in using a 2H weapon. You loose the blockrate AND 5 slots.

 

In PvP, Damage DKs have almost no advantage except the high damage helps on the rare occasion that a hit actually lands.
However, in PvE, damage DKs have three advantages that, in my opinion, make them a viable alternative to sword and board.

1. Damage over time attacks: Attacks like Dragon Fury or Bloody Wild Swing do damage over time based on base damage, not DPS. Therefore, it may take me slightly longer to do the attack, I will likely do 1.5-2.5 times the amount of damage with a DoT attack while I then continue to use other attacks. Using a Dragon Fury/Smash combo, in 4 seconds with steady rage (See point 3) or under a banner, a 2H with 1.00 attack speed could do 1400% of their base, where as a 1h with 2.00 could do 2200%. The problem is that because 2H DK's usually have 1.5-2.5 the damage of a 1H DK, the 2H will likely do more damage in the same period of time despite having near equal DPS.

2. HP Regen: When using Mighty Wild Swing to heal, it is again based on base damage, not DPS. I will heal 1.5-2.5 times the amount of HP that a 1H DK will. Here, speed does not help because there is still going to be a 3 second cool down anyway. In my opinion, this helps make up for not having a shield to reduce damage. Instead, I recover the damage easily instead of not taking it to begin with.

3. Damage per Rage: We all know that there are four ways to generate Rage (not counting a rage pot) You can use your base attack (AS or RS), you can use FBC for 40 Rage, you can use Rage Jump for 40 Rage, or you can get hit by enemies. With FBC or RJ, the difference in attack speed in PvE is negligable, but both a 1H and 2H DK get the same amount of rage. The difference is that the 2H DK can do 1.5-2.5 the damage with the same rage. Also, everyone gets hit when tanking. (Its a part of the job!) Because I spend most of my time in PWs where the mobs hit rather hard, I use the talent to get 60% extra rage when hit because I realize that with my slow attack speed, the extra rage for the basic attack is impractical. Interestingly, in most PW mobs, the rage generates at close to the speed my combos use it, so I rarely rely on my basic attack other than to hit them every couple of seconds to keep their damage decreased by 20%. As suck, I am able to consistently use my higher damage attacks like Smash, MWS, and Dragon Fury and rarely need to use my lower damage rage building skills.

In the end, it comes down to play style and personal preference. I enjoy playing a 2H DK and I am very good at it so I will keep doing it. However, it is not for everyone. It takes a lot of combos with good timing and the stats I have certainly help. In my opinion, it is like that old saying, "The best defense is a good offence."

EDIT:

P.S. I would not call any character who has Full Dark Armor + Dark Ring, All three pieces of Sargon's Armor, 2 pieces of Keen's set, and the 1000 Gold Cloak, "New."

 

@ Baragain. There are some valid points in your reply regading several talents rely on base damage and not dmg/s.

But I have some remarks either.

If you play solo (and on a boss run) a 2H DK can be fine. In PW they can be a pain in the a***. DK's are ment to control the mobs. a 2H DK can't do that as a 1H one can do.

If I go full sargon (13H HP, 3800 armor, 65% blockrate) to PW I'm just a wall to all mobs. Other group members can pick their max damage setup and stay at a safe distance.

A 2H DK with lots of dmg but low defence needs to avoid attacks also. So mobs will pass him and go to the weaker spellweavers. That's why I don't like 2H DK's in PW, can't control the mobs.

Secondly, sargon shield has little blockrate, but also +400 armor and 5 slots. Makes a huge difference imho.

Finally. I called my setup 'new' because my dark set is not fully upgraded. I still need to build in more dmg. My previous setup (sargon) was entirly focussed on defense so all items had health and armor, no dmg enchantments.

 

Ahhhh, I see.

My only comments in regards to your post are the following.

I agree low defense/HP 2H rarely make good PW Tanks, and even then only if they are uber heavey hitters. On my server, the is a 2H DK Iownia who only has about 5k HP, but 4k armor, and 1500+ damage. He kills everything before it has a chance to kill him. He is the exception, not the rule.

And in regards to controlling a mob, because I have the stats to pull it off, I would say that I would have an easier time controlling the mobs than a 1H DK because I hit harder. That helps me attract agro and hold it from all but the heaviest hitters (-HARRA81-, I'm looking at you )

My final thoughts are that I wish I had the extra slots of a shield, but I can live without. I simply wish that we had a choice to use one like rangers do. They can chose High Damage/Slow Speed or Low Damage/High Speed and still have their choice of Shield or Quiver. Stinking lucky rangers.

 

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Ok, thanke you.
I found out why I can't tank her with 2H-word,tnx to your video, you have more damage and heal better then me.

 

OMG Belt.. I have Keens

 

My new looks, it's just a start. The stats are not ready to show yet, but soon it will be

 

Congratz bro! You finally got the sword.

 

Thanke you bro, I finally got it, 2 days ago. It payed of playing Khalys every day 10-15 and sometimes more then 20 runs for 4-5 months (not sure about months), now to prepare for next Sargon event and gonna try to get full set or at least Sargon Pouldrons/Sargon helmet for more HP.

 

Gratz! I really hate DKs with that thingie in the arena 8)

 

Thanke you.

I know why you hate DK's with this "thing" i have now for a weapon. Probably you would hate me to with me on full sargon xD

 

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You could use a better shield, but its some very nice stats!
Very nice balance between armor and HP (so few understand how important armor really is)

 

Armor is actualy less important the life points, couse not always is armor gonna lower the damage if the boss/player uses ander(magic) to hit you, life points in thouse moments playes a crucial role and resistance.

 

Also, block rate and block amount affect all attacks including elemental/magic as well as physical.

 

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dude armor is some time important against warvsar and ranger. and in quest. u need a balance between armor and hp and a good shield