Producer Dialogue |#Botbanning

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  1. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And I call BS on that. Unless that "Friend" has a screen shot of the ban notice with his information above it and then another of him in game with the same information, then I won't believe it. Sounds like another person trying to spread false hope to all the cheaters.

    The first stage of this was denial when people were saying "I never botted, give me my account back."

    The second stage was, "I only botted a little/used auto-loot/used the trial version/started the day before the ban, so please give me my account back"

    The third stage was the swearing and threats "I'LL $%@#@^ SUE BIGPOINT."

    Now we are to the misinformation stage where people are going to spread rumors about getting accounts back to make things flare up.

    Personally, I'm looking forward to stage 5. The botters realize that they screwed themselves and aren't getting anything back and they shut up and disappear.
     
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  2. tothmartin

    tothmartin Someday Author

    Rick is genial - from business point of view.
    There were many fully or almost fully developed players. For Bigpoint a fully developed character is not good. Does not spend any money and make angry other people in PvP beating them and on the other hand they can support weaker players on PvE who can spend less essency. So they are enemies of BP. Rick did see the numbers. Fired 6000 players according to the violations.

    Bot users were also useful for Bigpoint, belive me. Most of them used a for a short time bots. They might spent on their characters 1000-1500 euros in their lifetime, in average. They might "steal" some hundreads with bots.
    There are also F2P players. These botters could bring 800 Euros even if they used bots, in average.
    Anyone who is a professional PvP player knows to play with bots is not enough to be in the best players, it needs much money to invest, too.

    Now they think, people love this game and at least 80% of the players will start and develope a new character and pay more than 1000 Euros again, in average.

    Brilliant and let me congratulate you Rick.

    @Drakensang online Players:
    FYI - Open up your eyes and think about that also from this point of view.
    you endless blame here each other.

    At the time of the bot bans droprate should be re-set imediately. This was decreased because of the bot programs. Now there should be no more bot users anymore in game. Drop is same as last weak. BP lied (again). And how many lies were there you can not imagine.
    It may started with release 89? when DKs was weakened. BP had luxury profit. There was a decision. They wanted much more. Low or 0 drops for most of the players especially for the strongest uniq items. -People will visit khalys/mortis again and again and spend tima nad money.
    Fill up new legends with ******** magic / values (low magic resistance value so the uniq will be sold but spent 2 EUR to open each)

    Inpossible missions: Sargon necklace 999 kills. No khalys weapon drops. Just spend money, this is your thing to do...

    Parallel world bug was corrected in some days. Teleport/jump bug is there since 2-3 years. Maybe this is also programmed to have, I often realise when I am in trouble and want to jump and run away, it puts me back and die. So I can spend 120 Andremants for re-spawn. Nice.

    Every bug was corrected that was Bigpoint's interest. Rest is ignored -especially if they can say, "you had temporary connection issue, contact internet provider"

    I am sad, many ppl. and/or characters disappeared after the buns. Clans were disappeared as clan masters were banned.

    I am so sorry about these players. I think about a mother who grow up a child, become a parent after 9 months and continue this... I know real word is different but everyone who has a character for longer time, think about that feeling that you lose your small child FOREVER. Think about only on that FEELING what they can feel even if they did something wrong. And what would you feel.
     
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  3. Leelu

    Leelu Forum Apprentice

    You belive what you like, I know what I know. :)
     
  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    How about you go back to the Hungarian forums and leave the English ones alone.
    Show me a screen shot you you getting back into the game and maybe I'll believe you. Until then, you "Friend" means nothing to me or any of the other honest players.
     
  5. lolo222

    lolo222 Someday Author

    in your words are a part of the truth)
     
  6. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    And you are saying this because..? to make it more acceptable to cheat? o_O

    If you don't have any proofs its just like turning own words to facts... no-one believes you :) sorry but that's the way it goes in real world. you need something to show to backup your claims or they aren't valid information.
     
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  7. Leelu

    Leelu Forum Apprentice

    :D I dont like to cry for you or others , I just like to ask something, because nobody answer in Forums, in supports...etc.And I like to write my opinions. Its a Forum what is made for this. :D
     
  8. DealWithIt

    DealWithIt Forum Greenhorn

    Bp, steal us our wissdom, our gold, all our copper, our andermants, even our gliphes, but please, i implore you, give our accounts back, i dont mind if we have to pay a penalty of 20-30 euros to get them, i dont mind, but please, give them back
     
  9. Multi-Sev

    Multi-Sev Forum Overlooker

    Taking that analogy one step further, people know it's immoral/illegal/risky to let their treasured offspring play unattended near a busy street. When that child is taken away by the authorities, because of a negligent parent who doesn't follow the rules, that parent will feel bad; but who's fault is it that the child is no longer in their life? Does that parent deserve to have custody of that child? My answer is: absolutely not. You do the crime, you face the consequences. Those of us who never even considered using a bot have nothing to fear. Don't use bots and you can keep your character. Use a bot, and you may lose it. Those are the facts and people who used bots knew, or should have known, what could happen. Those who may try to use them in the future; this is your wake-up call. Don't do it.
     
  10. dukegab

    dukegab Forum Apprentice

    Firefly and Baragai leelu wrote the truth:) You can say that it is a lie or fiction. But that is the truth. So just realy think what You want.
     
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  11. Burn84

    Burn84 Junior Expert


    Why samone shuld anser u for the lies u keep telling here u and others botters?

    Read First post from Mr. RickTalrok and tell us wath u don't understand.
    U got cought wen u cheat ,u got banned Deal with it.

    U want to come back and play? no one gone stop u ,create a new account and start play again,pay atention to not use bot again becouse if u do u gone get banned again and come here in forum and cry !

    All of u know that is agains the Rules < read Rules to use a ThirdParty program in this game and u gone get ur account Permabanned if u get cought,so why u complain now ??

    It was ur choise to use Bot,u like to cheat and think u are more good then Rules.

    If u are a Man/Lady u shuld accept the ban for ur own mistake.

    Have a nice day.
     
  12. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    And why would I believe you? You have 11 posts and 9 of them are in reference to the bot ban trying to claim innocence among other things on two different language forums. You have as little credibility in my books as leelu. Next?
     
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  13. monomiafora

    monomiafora Forum Apprentice

    WELL DONE very nice point of view.but man very few can see it clearly :))
    the others stop being sheeps!!!!where is the fun??
    its all BP fault.BP let bots,BP delete bots.BP want more income only..how can you be so sheeps??
    There will be until summer 10 games better than this..

    ps.I didnt saw any botter excepts some kids to crying or saying anything wrong.
    + i saw many brainless ppl who DO the LAWER for a german company who jsut use both sides and care only about money..Where is fair NOOBS?Where is the fun??
    the fun is to play your game and have fun with it.
    IF you cant fun when somebody else choose not to farm so much and dont have money to give like you all who talking..you have problem inside guys.
    get a life.all botters now have life :)
     
  14. yellowfrog.

    yellowfrog. Board Analyst

    better games exists and will always be.but you played this one like me.i will continue to play you will not.go to find better game .why you insist to write here?
     
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  15. monomiafora

    monomiafora Forum Apprentice

    hahahahaha how you are so......sheep?i cant get the "how" no offense
     
  16. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Wait, So it is BigPoint's fault that people cheat and BigPoint let people cheat? Lets get this straight. It is each cheater's individual fault that they couldn't follow the rules that the rest of us did. Second, BigPoint did not "let" people bot. Rather, a programmer saw a way that they could make a quick buck by making a cheating program and selling it. The bot developer went looking for an exploit and when they found it, instead of doing the responsible thing and meeting the terms of service and reporting the vulnerability, they hacked the game.

    All this to say that there are two parties at fault, and neither of them are BigPoint. Instead, blame the bot developer and those of you who used their product.
     
  17. monomiafora

    monomiafora Forum Apprentice

    you dont know how things work so i can forgive you.but let me say to you something.
    bot can be made VERY easy.just few programming skills.if they are better they will just make better program..but anyone can make.SO its only BP fault and you can think more like openmind and see the things clearly.
    BP knows about botters for first minute..They have very smart programmers inside this big company.THEY could make a better protection not after 3 years,and doing this.after 6 months of this game started.if you can understand sorry for my english...
    BP let botters , when botters slowwwly after 3 years paying, many of those botters gone to maximum everything.no more money just waiting any new event to get in first hour..
    Thing if they start a new event.Fast 1 good party finish 1 day...They cant doing it harder cause noone else except full ppl can finish it :) think..
    And they will ban 10000 players,3000 sheeps of them they will create another account + botting :)
    botting will never end..and youll see it.go on DSO forum, They got + page for drop rates on every map.They run 50 bots every day only DSO.BIG point = dso.
    but they wanted to start again....and go again full.They dont need full PLAYERS now ..thats all...
    they dont care about fairness....sheeps...goodbye
     
  18. yellowfrog.

    yellowfrog. Board Analyst

    yes they let you,took your money and now they dont need you anymore.So simple.you are not very smart persons.how is that sound?;)
     
  19. monomiafora

    monomiafora Forum Apprentice

    again this noob hahabro they took my.....let it i wont say it..but let me tell you something.there are some players who only get PAID not paying like you bot.and stop criticize anything cause you jealous everything i dont know...try read what i say more carefull..thats all..i dont need to spend money ..you need
     
  20. yellowfrog.

    yellowfrog. Board Analyst

    no i can read only correct english sorry.
     
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