Producer Dialogue |#Botbanning

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  1. RickTalrok

    RickTalrok Dev Team Team Drakensang Online

    Don't believe everything you hear, Croaries86 was never banned in the first place.

    RickTalrok
     
  2. RickTalrok

    RickTalrok Dev Team Team Drakensang Online

    Hi Yellowfrog,

    I'd rather reward the loyal players with some great events and a roadmap that changes the game for the better. Sargon 5 will start in the next couple of days, and this event looks really amazing. Then after that we will be releasing our best event ever.

    RickTalrok
     
  3. Angel

    Angel Forum Greenhorn

    Hi all,do you know when will start the Shangri-la event?
    Tnx. :)
     
  4. lolo222

    lolo222 Someday Author

    Hello Rick, you ignored my post,can you give some answers?

    1- Why so long you have struggled with a bot? why these problems are not dealt a year ago?when the bot is only appeared...why have given this contagion to spread?What sense did it make so much time to pull? Because for such a long time is not a solution to the problem you have shown to users that you can get away with using the bot. When many people began to use it,you started....why didn't have protection from third-party programs at the primary level of the game? here there is not only the fault of the users.

    2- Why do some players got banned for a week?A now people who had first seen the bot immediately given a permanent ban?


    3- Why the players were not informed that the players have violated the rule 1.2.9 will be punished according to the most strict? Why not why not posted on the forum? In the game? Even in the mail, not what has come...
    Although to start would like this to send for examle this "In your account was detected using external programs (autoloot,bot or something else),if You do not stop using these programs,we will be forced to take measures and to keep you from using the account forever in accordance with paragraph 1.2.9 rules of the game"
    nothing happened,even in the rules of the game not written that it is punished with eternal ban


    4- Why not provided any evidence of use bot programs? after all, without the presence of evidence of the prosecution and groundless prohibition.Bigpoint don't care that there are many people ready to sue?


    5- You may be asked to check the ID of some of the accounts for the presence of a bot? if it only once, you can mitigate the punishment to a permanent ban on such options :
    - ban 2 weeks
    - ban month
    - ban for 3 months
    - deprivation, drop things with the bot
    - payment of a fine (the amount depends on how much broke)
    and what about pure heart of recognition? because it mitigates the punishment ;)
    p.s emphasized "mitigates" but not completely removes responsibility


    6- How about money transferred into the game a couple of days before the prohibition of the game? they will be returned to users?


    7- What about bugs?it is also prohibited to use because the player takes advantage of, will punished players use them?you also need a decent players right?

    p.s sorry for the mistakes,I am a Russian user :)

    I hope you will check my account (ID: 100350398 Grimmage),again and see that I used the bot once per 2 years once, April 10 (with ~9 o'clock to 12 in the morning Moskov time) ,just a couple of hours. Check my IP with which I am in game I go (if you need it I can to write it here). Deprive me drop which I got with the bot but to mitigate the punishment. If I constantly use the bot I wouldn't come to write and so much time to prove.
     
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  5. *Frosch*

    *Frosch* Forum Ambassador

    This sounds good :)
     
  6. Herkoles001

    Herkoles001 Forum Apprentice

    hello ,is there a chance to go up the drop of everything now,when the banned people are not playing??Tnx. :) :)
     
  7. _igor007_

    _igor007_ Forum Apprentice

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  8. -Kibela-

    -Kibela- Forum Apprentice

    if you read my posts after this one you can see they got them back..
    and why dont you want to give answer to my only and primary question?..
    it is just not fair without an explanation give bann.. and dont say the explanation is your are botuser.. give me prove of that.. you dont have to do it in public.. send it on my email or privite mesage here..
    then you can say I m fair
    like this you only have robbed me for my acc in dso
     
  9. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    Spoilers please :D
     
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  10. StrawHat

    StrawHat Forum Apprentice

    Some of the players payed for their gems. They can have their gems but delete all their unique items, legends, honor points, rewards from the past events and glyphs. Then gave all the bot users a notable mark on the top of their names, reminding them that they are all a former cheater of this game.
     
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  11. -Kibela-

    -Kibela- Forum Apprentice

    and you are a honest player??. you never took advantage of bugs???

    HA HA
     
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  12. lolo222

    lolo222 Someday Author

    to deprive those things need a player has received for the account of the bot, but not to deprive a person of things that he received a fair way. The bot is not able to farm epic bosses.
     
  13. Ouch!!

    Ouch!! Forum Apprentice

    My point is : please ! Bring them back in game !!


    ... BUT...

    ... in an alternative world where they all can play amongst their kind and only amongst themselves. So that they can all live together, breed together, measuring dicks together, bullying each other wishout being annoyed by noobs/mods/bp ... everything.

    Cos hey ! There's no reason they can be freed of this game when I'm stuck in it totally addicted ! Maybe should I consider using bot in order to get back my real life...

    ... maybe ...
     
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  14. Dr.Toxic

    Dr.Toxic Forum Greenhorn

  15. Cristus

    Cristus Forum Greenhorn

    Rick responds to this user, the regulation says that if you exploit is punished with permanent ban, so why not banned everyone who used the bug 2 months ago from mortis?

    Cause I like to reply, on replies. ;)

    No I'm not a cheater, but if you scroll a little up you will see what I posted to Rick. :)
    Anyways. I got to tell you that yes I do think it is fair to give players a new chance.

    This is just a game and players are people.

    I'm sure nobody wanted their character to get perma ban just like that and they din't think about what really could happend, but hey seriously can you blame them? This is Drakensang Online aka Bigpoint haha.

    Of course blah blah says the official rules blah blah...
    Seriously if you GUYS really are SO FOCUSED on keeping this so FAIR and HONEST, then I guess DSO should have made a "Bug-User-Detector" aswell..

    Cause in "THE RULES" using bugs for your own advantage also is a CRIME. LMAO!!!
    Then DSO should aswell ban maybe around 50-70-80-90%? of ALL players from ALL servers right?
    - Around that number I guess..

    Yes yes WE all are so fair and honest players, but when a bug on Mortis comes we can just break the rules for a night or two right?

    "Now where is the "Big-Bug-Users-Banning-Wave"?

    Yes I used the Mortis bug ALWAYS for my advantage.... Oh no, now I receive a perma ban... :(....
     
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  16. StrawHat

    StrawHat Forum Apprentice

     
  17. lolo222

    lolo222 Someday Author

    I laugh with such fair players,
    most of them used bugs and is not fair was pumped his character or received unique things.
    For example, I 3rd Archer on the server Grimmig who received a death mask. I got it honest way I killed strong Mortis,I spent red/purple essence,potions health buffs and under what would it kill and be tanked. Show how many players have with this mask? Even the Noob, have the cloak is not open already have a mask, 80% of the players who now has this rare unique item got it from Bug. Many people with Bug got a unique weapon Kali and other unique items,many people have discovered chests (without spending keys) and got an advantage over the other person won the JACKPOT!! Many players took the quest to Ander and the farm adner, Estudi which farm 100-200k+ Ander this is not considered stealing from Bigpoint? Why was I given a permanent ban for 1K adner ( to be honest I had 8600 Ander after I graduated from farm bot 9200 Ander,nah it's funny that I bought for 600 Ander?as I will make a strong character due to 600 Ander when I used that one time? over 600 Ander I buy stone +3 damage and all will be killed in the arena?) I have received for the account of the bot? What justice and fair play is it? Ban all players who ever used a bug/bot. Or give players the chance, I'm one of the players who are within 2 years of the game received its first ban in the game and he was a constant where at least some warning? Where stage ban for 3 days and 2 weeks? why immediately moved to stage 3 all permanent ban?


    All I want is to return my character,I confessed that I was this program. Test me and see that I'm telling the truth,I am ready to pay the penalty for these couple of hours bot farm, let me ban 1-2 weeks,okay month,To take away my title (although he's not to blame),to deprive me of things that I farm with a bot,make any corrective works for me let me after unban will be some bad bonus for example, less reward. I am ready for it, but not ready to lose at one time all I did for many years,long hours with this game,nerves spent on drops unique things investing though not large but the money and of course to lose my friends with whom every day I played.
     
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  18. Adohar

    Adohar Forum Apprentice

    So you were told to terminate gradually the Drakensang Online project?

    One of my friends suggested that somewhere around Sept. last year on Polish forum, when he left DSO. I disagreed with him. But nevertheless, he is IT, and had much more experience in various MMO. Not like me
    Sorry, but right now I can't see it in other way, judging from failed updates, lags, servers down, and wrong policy concerning bot-banning.
     
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  19. RickTalrok

    RickTalrok Dev Team Team Drakensang Online

    Regardless of what anyone tells you, no one has gotten their account back. If you see someone in-game playing on an account that they say was unbanned, they are lying, as their account was never banned.

    You will not like the answer, but you were banned because we detected you using a bot multiple times. We cannot divulge how we detect bots, because the bot developers will then be able to react, which brings us back to square one. I don't like square one.

    RickTalrok
     
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  20. yellowfrog.

    yellowfrog. Board Analyst

    only the bot users think that bp wants to terminate the game.all the rest of us see a new era of the game to begin and we forgive all the bugs lags etc.

    123 was the best release ever.and i've been playing since the begining of beta.
    Now with the bigest problem solved its time for new content,new bosses new events new items and evrything.

    So stop judging by yourselves.All the rest feel very good with the game.the game is terminated just for illegal players.not for all.

    And a last advise.Dont ask for evidence and say im innocent ,blah,blah,blah because in case they give evidence you will be embarassed infront of the eyes of all the community.You are lucky they dont give name list.So maybe its better to stop here the complains,the accusation and the politics messages.
     
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