Producer Dialogue |#Botbanning

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  1. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    why do i get the feeling that you have been banned too though you say you are not? :)
     
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  2. lucaddd

    lucaddd Forum Apprentice

    Oh...stop being purists...sinless...try at list once too trespass some rules...(not BP necessary)

    You all must not forget that bot-users are the reason of Rick presence and work here :) so you all guys have gige Rick a good job:)

    Just two things in my subjective opinion ( pls consider that my english is neither maternal language either my usual foreign language ) :

    1. Bot-users bother especially the good players, active players (witch frustration we can saw it on the forums) and those who invest money or time to bee really good, mostly in PVP. They knew how to make heard their demands on varios forums (eng, fr and 2 others i could read).

    2. Bot-users never bother the common players who passed they 1-2 h per day mosly in PVE and not in PVP.

    So there are two positions, in my opinion (the purists and the bot-users) - some ask for "clense" (Rick is not a plummer guys) other the forgive (Risk is not a priest)-- a struggle wich do not regard the entire community formed mostly from common players.

    Is less dramatic that it seems (those groups are formed from active players both sides) and decision will be mades not by sterils rules from CCG but from profit point of interest.

    We shall see if this action will have financial consequences on BP or not pretty soon and if there are no,t the banned accounts will never be unbanned. Is there is an general unban d ont get crazy is just a game. If not unban BP jus offer you a choise( more time to spend in nature with familly--- very important, or restart and work all from the begining- think if you still have this time before start)

    Best wishes to you all and think positive, the world is not in black (bots) and white(purists)
     
  3. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    You may have a hard time understanding this, but this game is over for me.

    I wanted my friends to get a chance to change and stop using bot if that's the reason they have been banned.

    I have no reasons to keep playing this game without them, but instead I could aswell TRY to tell Rick and you others what I think of this and get a few things straight with some of you who want FAIR and HONEST game.

    Btw you din't answer my perma ban 25 phoenix cheaters. ^^
    So I guess you don't a FAIR and HONEST game overall? ;)

    Oh yes, please come with a "but that's not cheating explanation" that I can laugh off.
     
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  4. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    Your friends have a chance... create new account and start from level 1 and play fair? how hard is it understand? :) and if its over for you why do keep still writing here? try to make things better for next DSO-generation? :D
     
  5. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    Lol? You even read what I wrote or you just read 2 sentence and pretend like you know what to reply?

    WE want FAIR and HONEST game with ONLY FAIR and HONEST players, but when I ask you about if 25 phoenix cheaters should be perma banned, you don't even reply on it. Lol...

    Read the rules, that's also not allowed, but still MANY does this.

    I come up with examples of what should be done if you guys REALLY want a FAIR and HONEST game so much, but when you face the truth of perma ban bugs users or perma ban phoenix cheaters, everybody shuts up.

    It's not like botters, but WE all still want a FAIR and HONEST game. Haha, listen to yourselves.

    What a joke. :)
     
  6. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    Yes yes... you have said over and over and over again in your posts basically that all uses this and that bug -> ban alll ban all!!!.... how clever you are :D maybe people are just trying to ignore your smart mouthing thats why you dont get any answers? :) but cant you understand that that what you are doing is not leading to nowhere..? your friends are not getting their toons back nor will bp ban people from your silly suggestions... this is just waste of your time :)
     
  7. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    LOL!

    Ahh man I kinda like you, your funny. Haha.

    I understand this by the time, but you have missed my point friend. :)

    My suggestions are not silly, cause it stands in the rules that those things are not allowed aswell as botting, but still you guys just ignore those things I write.

    You begin to understand what I mean? If you really want a FAIR and HONEST game, then please support perma ban bugs users and perma ban phoenix cheaters,
    cause we ALL just wanna focus on keeping this game FAIR and HONEST right?

    I know even Rick would properly not even be enable to reply on perma ban phoenix cheaters, cause if they really looked into it, the numbers of players who did this is properly bigger then those who used bot.
     
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  8. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    no no... when i dont reply to your silly point of views that doesnt mean i dont understand :) now ill explain to you why... so for example you are talking about that mortis bug... which was actually parallel world bug and not just mortis bug... and youre saying that bp should ban all that used the bug? everyone that played pw that day... thats just silly... that would be almost all players who have played the game that day :D and who have said that the bug users get permaban..? YOU have said that and last time i check you are not the one who decides here? :)

    And for what comes to your phoenix case i dont even say nothing but maybe 0,001% of all players are using phoenix... how huge problem :) yes let's shoot the fly with bazooka!! :D
     
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  9. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    OMG!

    How can it be that you don't understand what I mean?

    Why is it silly? Yes maybe is all players who played q6 map 2 that day, but is that unfair or what are you trying to tell?

    IS AGAINST THE RULES FRIEND and YOU want this game to be FAIR and HONEST and you jugde everybody else who don't follow this, but when I tell you what really should be done then, you just ignore it!

    How can someone be so, omg. Intelligence at it's lowest level.

    Btw Mortis bug has been there many times, also for 1 week at a time, but it was only Mortis back then who was bugged.

    Instead of "trying" to make you figure out what I mean, let me do this instead..

    RickTalrok

    Hi. Your here to make the game fair and honest right?

    Well do you have plans in the future to do..

    - Perma ban for all who uses any kinds of bugs without reporting them.

    - Perma ban for all who has been cheating to make accounts themselves and level up to get phoenix.

    Will they get banned or don't you focus on keeping this game as fair and honest as you claim?

    Banning all who cheated with phoenix would only DROP BP's profit that's why I ask them about this, now let's see if they even got an argument for that...

    Pff.. What do I write? Of course they don't got one! Cause even they, will never follow their own RULES if it makes them LOSE profit.

    They will just ignore it and pretend like nobody does those stuff. ;)
     
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  10. joe6699

    joe6699 Junior Expert

    Ban is appropriate for those who use 3rd party program to exploit the game. Mixing mortis bug within this thread is childish...
     
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  11. deathacceptor

    deathacceptor Someday Author

    Gotta agree with him (Y)
     
  12. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Ok, I have been trying to avoid reading a lot of stuff on this thread but here is goes. First of all, the botters were warned several times already. Secondly, I believe that many botters who say that they are just using secondary devices such as "auto loot" system actually use the botting system as well. I believe that the method that BP uses to determine botters cannot tell whether botters are really only using this secondary function or using the main function of afk farming. I do not believe that any of the botters will have their accounts returned as this will probably be the way BP shows people, "you better not bot". Same goes for those saying they only used bot trial days. Sorry to all you botters.... but this time I think you're perma banned for sure.
     
  13. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    When the rules so say?

    Joe, if you have read some of these threads, players are very focused that this game should remain fair and honest, telling me stuff like it stands in the rules, that you agree to follow, but when I come with examples of what is also against the rules, which WE all ALSO agreed to follow, nobody knows what to write.

    You really think is childish to mix it up, when you try to tell me botting is against the rules and I try to tell other stuff with is also against the rules? That childish?

    Keep in mind I'm just telling those "follow the rules" - "Keep this game fair and honest" people, that there are more stuff which stands in the rules, which MANY others haven't followed.

    I don't even need to argument for why I wrote that Joe, but I hope you understand what I meant now a little better. :)

    Follow the rules or not? Take a decision...
     
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  14. perrush

    perrush Active Author

    I don't understand you botters. It has been said over and over that botters would be banned permanently, It was asked over and over to ban botters. What were you thinking if you used the bot ?? It was just a matter of time till it happend. Now that you're banned you try to ban other players too.

    Has BP ever stated that bug-users will be banned ? No they didn't.

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    Secondly. Firstly the 'bot-service' was suspended till 15/4. Today the admin annouced that the service will be open after the hotfix ... ... this smells very fishy to me. Will keep an eye on the botters in my friendlist. I certainly hope I don't see them showing up en mass ...
     
  15. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice


    Perrush I understand you, but you don't seem to understand me.

    Read the rules, is against the rules. You understand me now?

    Don't bring up stuff like botting is against the rules, when it seems like you guys pretend that cheating with phoenix and using bugs for own advantage is NOT against the rules.

    Pff..

    Btw the reason the DSO devs don't take those stuff up is because as I mentioned before and you would be enable to figure that out yourself, is BECAUSE they would LOSE profit.
     
  16. Firefly

    Firefly Active Author

    you poor guy... :) you are very silly and making fool of yourself... just flaming/provoking here :)
    and when you reply smart mouth something here you can read the next line:

    i rest my case :)
     
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    It just shows botters personality . They have sunk and want to take everyone with them. :D

    I have an friend banned as well. He said that he was only trying the bot for only one time. And he got ban.
    But unlike you, he have accepted the punishment and deeply regret for his mistake.
    He never cursed anyone or swear at anyone.
    He have started new character ... and with friends help he is now level 41 ... and got some good gear on the way up.
    Instead of posting crap here level up your new characters so you can catch up with the rest of us ... as soon as you can.
     
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  18. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    Take everyone with them?

    No not really, just trying tell all aswell as you to REMOVE all CHEATERS from game and make it fair and honest, like you ALL wish this game to be or what are you trying to tell me friend?

    Just funny you guys ignore this, almost like is legal to cheat with those things, but not legal to bot, even though that it stands in the rules, that you guys try to bring up everytime.

    Almost like you guys try to defend those 2 stuff I mentioned because you like them and maybe used them yourselves or else that you just don't understand what I mean.
     
  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Yes YOU DO!
    You do want to bring down all the rest with you.

    For bot to work ... one have to reverse engineering and tampering the game and the code. And the code is most sacred thing to the owner.

    Mortis bug? Are you kidding me? That bug was developer's fault ... what the players should have done? Not playing the game for couple of days? Because that bug was in the game and no one could avoid it.

    The next thing should be ban for FIXING arena matches!
     
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  20. FyouBP

    FyouBP Forum Apprentice

    Uhm.. Yes?

    Fair and honest right? Let me ask you a simple question then... Did you even report the bug back then if you knew it?

    "Could not avoid it?" Lol. Funny, of course it could be avoided, you just don't enter Mortis and do something else while waiting for fix.

    Saying that it is the devs fault, almost sounded like what the bot-users would say about the bot program.

    Tell me friend.

    What bot could farm 2-4-6.million glyphs on 1 week with mortis bug back then?
    What bot could farm 10k+ gold as you could in the Invasion of Kingshill bug?

    You guys judge others, when there's so many cheaters in this game using other stuff, which is also against the rules.

    Go ahead and call me botter, poor guy or childish guy. Just because I have my own opinion? My own opinion which is also the truth, which some of you just can't get into your blinded mind.

    I understand botters won't be given another chance, but I don't understand the way some of you think.
     
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