Producer Dialogue |#Botbanning

Lol?

Dude.. I mean really? Cause my view is different then yours and most others then I'm a bot user who got banned? You make me sick.

Why do I know Rick won't go after players who use bugs for their advantage?
Do the math, is about the money, I don't feel like explaining to a deaf person.

 

In any case you haven't seen our monitor and not sat next and can't confirm the truth we say or not,but the fact that some tell the truth should not be ruled out.

About 2k base i see you not understand

And you have screanshot (full) player with 9k hp and 4k armor and 1400 base?

 

sadly, just about everything in life is about the money. in this way bigpoint is no different than almost every company on earth, why do people make disparaging comments about "they do it for the money"?

also, as has been said before, if all the sad banned people like and enjoy the game, bigpoint is allowing them to still play. a chance to start fresh. I think that's rather gracious of them

 

90% top- guild game with bug and they play now, no one of them was banning and not warned.

 

90% top- guild game with bug and they play now, no one of them was banning and not warned.[/quote]

sigh

 

Thanks for the understand and yes I do also understand what you mean.

Yes it has not much to do with the botting subject other then just being a reminder for those saying they want fair and honest game now.

The reason I doubt Rick's word, is because of different reasons.

1. - Beginning to ban players who uses bugs for their advantage could lead to a huge amount of high payers getting banned. It would also lead to madness in forums like this one, Where they would be like. "Why you ban me for using Mortis bug? Is your own fault!". Stuff like that as an example.

2. - Players getting banned for using bugs like mortis bug as an example, how do you think they would react? Especially those who payed extremely much to this game and now hoped they had a chance to get mortis helmet. Mad! Yes of course and that would spread and it can only lead one way. Down in profit for BP.

3. As most of us properly already know, high payers are allowed to do a little more then free players are. As an example I can tell about a guy getting insulted about he's family from a high payer, the guy sended screenshot to DSO and they told him that they would mark it on he's account and then "maybe" next time he would receive a ban. Not because the insulting was weak, but because the guy simply payed so much to this game.

My overall point here is.That even though Rick is a part of the dev team, if banning players who use bugs will lead to BP losing profit, which it will, then even Rick will get he's a** kicked and I'm sure he knows this.

 

yea that's right... you are here to "defend" your friend and i know what that means and you go just too much beyond that and continue and continue and repeat youself over and over and over again that it can't be just defending your friend that's how i know your botter... c'mon tell the thruth and your friend didnt fight and left... maybe he was bot user and knew that it's over... and maybe you didnt knew him that good... maybe u have realized that too

P.s. and how do you know that everyone here use the bugs? if u and your friends use it that doesnt mean that everyone else does that too?

 

Well I tried to defend my friends of course! What do you think friends are there for? Why do I repeat myself? Well, if your still having such a hard time understanding this, then it's because there are people like you, who don't seem to understand s*** about what I mean, with what I write.

Either you misunderstand it or else dumb excuses pops up.
You jugde me as you want, but those things I write actually have a meaning behind it, which yours doens't.

What I knew about my friends was that they were not that kind of players who were in this game to insult others, but just to enjoy the game.
Maybe you don't know this yet, but in the end-game in DSO, is really only your friends that makes you keep coming back or atleast that's how I feel't, but I guess a few would agree with this.

To say it another way. My friends in this game, meant more to me then this game itself.

Oh and about the other thing with bugs. I din't say ALL used bugs, I said "most". There is a difference between those two words, search on Google if you need to.

 

of course not all could use it even theoretically cannot be but some here who are evading know and use some of these things,who simply knew of course there are people who didn't use anything. In the case of issuing bans all who enjoyed bugs, masks with these users will be removed. And until that comes, all will deny it and get away from issues. What they do not use and honest play. Such is human nature

 

And you made a new account yesterday just to defend your friends?
Why?
Why don't you use your real account? (if you ever spent some time to help or to share something with the rest of the community).
I don't hide behind new accounts ... I stand and defend my friends with this one.

How come all of you are playing this game for more than 200 years ... and have never showed at forums? (they don't even know for how long this game exists)

 

First of all i would like to thank you that you finally started with permabans for boters. It's really great job and it's quite satisfying after my more than half a year efforts, reports, recording videos, screenshots and collecting other evidences and informations about botters. Nothing happened until last patch was released. I'm impresed and i hope that you're going to keep your approach in this for real, because i heard rumors that some of your admins/mods were banned permanently too. Boters are saying it's a shame, i'm saying that BP has finally "balls".

However, i do see one small fly in the ointment and i would like to highlight this - I have been banned to, permanently. Well, i must admit it's not the first time i have been banned. I was banned for two weeks on this forum only because i dared to mention something about bots. And a few months ago there didn't exist any bots, at least oficially ofc. Now bots are here, oficially. I know, it sounds ridiculous (even to me), isn't it?

So naturally, when i found out that i'm banned i wrote to support. Answer i got was just prepared ctrl+c ctrl+v answer about "long monitoring and checking or whatever". I really doubt about it and i'm definitely not satisfied with such an answer. I want to know exact informations - what, when and how long was detected on my account, i want you to check it again (at least you should politely pretend that you checked it), i simply want individual and professional approach from your side about this as your customer. For a year of paying i think it's normal to want such a things.

So here is my question: Where should i write to get some serious answers?

I'm capable to write in english (surprisingly), german and maybe in russian too. Just for the record - i'm really not going to write again on support in my native language, because that support is completely useless from my several experiences. If you are not able to answer me, unban my account immediately, let me play and enjoy my upcoming payments for premium and maybe some anders as usual. If you don't want to give me any answer...well, ok, just another reason why am i stopping to care about this game and in that case i want you to delete my whole account with all characters and all data which are including any private informations and i'm done with all games from BP once and for all.

There doesn't exist any "second chance: we're so nice that you can create new account and play again" for me. I was capable to beat everyone in PvP without any bot, even against bot-groups in which everyone used healt potion every minute i caused troubles and sometimes i won. I'm definitely not going to create new account and farm again manually over 40 milions glyphs, farm/buy again radiant up to sacred gems, earn again almost 6 milions of glory, thousands of drakens, gather all uniques etc.

Ofc, i would like to get answer directly from RickTalrok, but it seems to me that he's answering only on what suits to him. I'm not blaming, i'm just saying, i get that he can't answer to all (ok, to be clear i haven't read this whole cry-blame-laugh-begging topic and i neither going to read it all). So in my opinion i'll be satisfied enough with reaction from moderator if it'll be useful. For sure i'll ask again: Where should i write to get some serious answers? And i really don't want to get similar almost automatic ctrl+c ctrl+v answer again. It only makes me angry.

And one more addition - a few months ago i sent video to support with over 20 boters from which was 100% sure that those players were using bots. Some of them are still playing, so i believe you're going to ban them in the next wave. At last i hope your next goal is to get rid of bugs which disproportionately benefit some players (you know, in first lines are usually admins/mods, because they know about it quickly - no offence, guys, i would do the same if i would be there instead of you, because it's allowed). In my humble opinion if you want to be strict and take it serious, you should start act like that more and insist on your Terms&Conditions entirely like most of the succesful MMROPGs.

 

Rick have said, for double check you should contact German or English support.

 

Not really sure what the meaning behind your reply is??

What's the problem with that I created a new account yesterday to defend my friends?
Does it change anything in what I wrote?
You would feel better if I used my real account or? Even banned users can still use their real accounts on the forums, so it would not really make any difference, if that's what you were trying to point out.

I've only played this game for almost 2 years, so not sure what you mean there either.

 

How to apply to English support?I get into Russian and they are not able to give a normal response. Thanks in advance =)

 

Here is the truth, you are looking for an excuse. When you install any piece of software, or make use of any program, you accept the Terms of Service that go along with it. If it is not explicitly stated, like say during an installation, then it is on you to go find them. It is like Implied Consent when it comes to drinking and driving laws. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break them. Are you telling me that no little red flag popped up in the back of your mind saying "Hum, maybe this program is not allowed." If you say "No," Then I say "Liar." Everything on the Bot Forum was things like "How to bot without getting caught." You don't worry about getting caught if you aren't doing anything wrong. BigPoint doesn't even make it difficult to find the rules. If you scroll down to the bottom of the game page, it is right there... "Terms & Conditions."

 

It's true you know the revenue,and you was happy to get the money from fair people who had to pay many money in this game to fight versus people who used bot who get their stones,andermants and much other.. with some forbidden programs and you didn't did nothing till now i think along the time you get our money and had fun but without doing nothing so mr RickTalrok you introduction in this topic who you open in that forum could be that


My name is RickTalrok, son of Aniel. I have been tasked with an epic quest,first of all to say sorry to all correct players with who we got money for a long time the Drakensang Online team to gratuitous amounts of glory!


And for tell you why that Bot exist from very long time on this game and i think not only here,but in all Bigpoint games. I think that you didn't banned permanently all before because you had benefits from both part,bot users and fair players.
From bot users we all know that a bot user have to get premium and many others what he get by paying.
But here comes a time when his account become very strong that he dont need no more money maybe only premium and then what you say? there isnt no more that big benefit from he,lets bann he.
A fair player what does he have to do for become strong?
He had to put a lot of money and to work a lot for can fight versus others.
So mr RickTalrok you waiting that someone will say to you "You my hero"? You wrong Because first victims of that are fair players because you had fun with their moneys what they used to can fight vs who didn't paid and used others programs. After them comes victims who are players who time ago was fair but see that someone use bots what does they say?
If he bot and noone does nothing to he why could i not?
And last victims are players who used bot thinking that they can trick and they didn't did nothink more than lose money and time because these players you always knew,but you didnt did nothink
And now lets talk about justice if you had to bann permanently these players it would be correct to have banned even players who in the past used bot and they got banned only for 7 days and now they still playing without any problem I think that would be fair because the fair player is in the same situation,he has to fight vs a player who maked his account by using bot.
So that would be all... That was my opinion and i think even others would be agree with me


Thanks.

 

haha.. they wont tell you nothing.. only you was detected for using bot.. I also wanted some answers and that is what I got.. no one will take the time or they just can t give some solid prove that they acctually caught sameone boting or even just tell us how they came to such a conclusion.. but hey they just being fair

 

There are 6000 people and I'd be willing to bet that 5500 of them insist that they never botted to support. What do you expect? You think they will personally examine each account and come up with the same result anyway?

 

yes yes yes i lie....

Sometimes I have the impression that here most robots or impenetrable, that's up to you not understand what they write. My text in English is so terrible and not readable?


on a new forum topic has not moved but she was on the old (what I don't deny) but i she don't remember. what I meant my post? what important information was not published, it should be sent to the postal address you assigned to an account but on it we receive letters about some upcoming event that for me is not so important if we compare the theme of eternal ban.

I'm not looking for ways to avoid the rules as you put it.
You must understand that people do not sit at their computers on 24 hours a day. and In game play as adults, some of them have a job, some family and they do not have time to view the forum in their own language,and about foreign generally silent. It's hard to understand? I'm not saying what I feel about these people, I have time to attend the forum but I'm telling the truth, and the topic was not on the new Russian forum. But of perma ban I don't saw the topic, if I saw her on early the Russian forum (not today or after ban) or to me it is sent to the mail address...that I would never have gone even test these programs to what the video. And who could know that at one time would react so harshly?
And why do you tell me the rules game? I know that I broke but the rules are not written term ban, understand it?

For example, even if you steal something in the store is not always solved the most severe way, according to all laws with the most severe measures of restraint. One guard will take your stolen and give a kick another will give kicked and calling the police.

you lost your pari, where you see 5500? read the topic from the beginning who then wrote about the bath here a maximum of 15-20 people.

LORD you are steel eggs!!! I lacked the courage thing to say so!

 

hellothis is longtemp I play Drakensang , and the ban on me to bot, I will not understand because I 've never done this .I have to play from the beginning to play for hours, I connect to my up and disconnect me to go coucher.tous me what I have I have it win or buy .I have never made a single offense is involved, nor was front ban day.if you could scan my computer Verier you who has nothing and never did anything to hu instaler as bot or other cochonerie .and overnight it says that I have to use a bot !but on what you base yourself ?because you remove all the personal banisser which is the same email adress .and that is bizard because if I had to use a bot you would also ban my last personal , because you also ban my mage, I connect just to pick up my giftsI think I should not be the only person not to have to use bot in case .and why a permanent ban so that we do not deserve .it would have been normal after a warning or two , if he will use u bot.but is n have not.Still I have been very honest about getting gamecordialment