So... is this game still bad? ;-)

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  1. ToshiBoy

    ToshiBoy Someday Author

    ... and even then they don't listen unless they have to... pet subject: PvP. All those "changes" just made it progressively worse and I bet about a third of all complaints, if not more are about PvP. Especially about Tegan.
     
  2. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    I understand your perspective on the matter. However, the devs have made a number of changes to PvP according to forum demands. PvP is back to being unfair because, right after it was made 'fair', players complained again... this time about long waiting times to find battles.

    I think they're still working on balancing PvP but it's not so easy. Even ideas posted here by users are flawed (and you'd expect the players to have the best understanding on what would be fair). Nothing will ever be completely fair; we should be pushing for PvP to be less unfair, instead of 'fair'.
     
  3. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    The biggest problem with Tegan PvP is lack of player base. Look at the server usages on thin client when you log in, Heredur has 6 bars full, Tegan max 2 ALL THE TIME.
    Tegan just cannot get players to stay on it and alot has to do with PvP but figure if we had the player base Heredur has, PvP would become more evenly matched as there would be a larger pool of players to match up.
    The game isn't bad, it's players wanting everything to be either free or nerfed and when it isn't like that they leave. They have made the game and PvP bad, all of them.
    Maybe the devs should write in A.I. filler toons designed specifically to fill PvP matches, toons of different levels and fame tree ranks but with the fighting abilities of a human player ie speed, reflexes etc.. Of course the people would be crying about getting beat by an A.I. too so PvP would still be a big complaint lol.
     
  4. soxx101

    soxx101 Forum Connoisseur

    The game is only bad if you can't play it.... Yes alot of people still moan about the game, with this and that, but guess what?... They are still here, so it can't be that bad...
    The game it's self is based on how you play it and what you do there....

    Always A Pleasure
    Soxx....
     
  5. MorDerMe

    MorDerMe Forum Apprentice

    PvP is tough when the teams are grossly mismatched -- KOTR versus Recruits; Legionnaires Vs Candidates, etc... And this probably accounts for the lack of available PvPers. Really shouldn't be too difficult to match players until a certain level for a more balanced playing field. this would encourage more players to try, and stick with, PvPing.... Just saying...
     
  6. vojza

    vojza Board Analyst

    Easy: Still bad.Still very bad.:(:(:(:(:(
     
  7. sunovabit

    sunovabit Forum Greenhorn

    well if u decide to return to dso you can completely forget about pvp,having been away from dso for 4 mts ,( its just my opinion ) theres no way you can compete against those payer,botter and hacker. pve : this game is still worth playing, even with those annoying bugs
     
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  8. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Even with decreased drop ... still good.
     
  9. Warmaster666

    Warmaster666 Forum Apprentice

    In my original post, I asked 2 questions. Will a mod respond truthfully and without any propaganda crap? That will be appreciated, thanks.
     
  10. Markoman

    Markoman Someday Author

    Mods have no influence or knowledge about upcoming in-game changes, our only concern and job is the forum, does me answering your question change your perspective about this topic? I believe not. However I do believe that big progress will be made considering the bot problem which would make room for increased drops like before, will it be done, right now no one knows, and as for pvp match-up system goes I find it very satisfying considering all the factors.
     
  11. Sheik

    Sheik Forum Apprentice

    I agree with you, i think bigpoint want more money from people, they even forget top gamer club, in the forum they say top gamer get unpublish news but its not true.
     
  12. UnknownKnowlegde

    UnknownKnowlegde Forum Apprentice

    Top gamers club is a joke anyway. :)

    "Top Payers Club" ;)
     
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  13. Warmaster666

    Warmaster666 Forum Apprentice

    I was not expecting such a straightforward answer from a mod. So, I appreciate your input. The problem is, you're in the dark just as much as we players are. As a mod, shouldn't you know more?

    Anyway, the Botbanning thread kind of answered some questions, and raised others. Will BP now raise the drop for ander/CoTs/coins? Cuz the bot users were officially the reason for lowered drops.
     
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  14. Hartvig

    Hartvig Forum Inhabitant

    You just answwered you rown question! OFFICIALLY, BOT´s where the reason;)
    But do you think that is the whole truth? ;)

    But it would be nice with 100% ander from some bosses and more ander from low-lvs, i had a method of farming 1k ander/hour... I miss those days!
     
  15. Fallen_Dove

    Fallen_Dove Forum Greenhorn

    DSO is built on one thing, farming. Doesn't matter if you're F2P or P2P farming is the foundation of the game. If you can farm, you can have fun. Not saying the drops are fine (they're terrible I agree) but there are places that give you what you want. Take Stonewall Island, if you have been there before you should know that with 2 hours of farming it's an easy 400 COT's. I actually came back to DSO after over a year solely because of the community and I still find things DSO can improve on but just like any game if you play with friends it's fun.
     
  16. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Officially, Bots were not the reason. Below is an excerpt from the old forums.
    They claim that they put in the scaling to encourage players to work in their own level area and the side effect is that bots working the low level area saw their drops disappear.

    So, my best guess, no. They will not be increasing the drop rates now that the botters have been handled.
     
  17. Fallen_Dove

    Fallen_Dove Forum Greenhorn

    Agreed with Baragin but people are too lazy to group and do high lvl dungeons for farm lately. Not saying they don't but this a problem to those new to 40 and above and any other level. There isn't that many people around on Tegan (which is one fo the English servers that most of the people on this forum come from) to do such things so people are stuck at having to face low level monsters for anything decent since it is too difficult to do a dungeon of their level. Take Fortress Teganwall for example, it is very difficult for those who don't have the dmg or items to face the monsters there. They are many if them and they do quite a bit of damage. I know we all past that point but you should remember it being a pain.
     
  18. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    Think players are getting sick of farming now, high level anyway. My 45's are parked and just used for events, IF the event appeals to me. Been creating then deleting low level toons just to see if any are build worthy lol. So far no :D
     
  19. Warmaster666

    Warmaster666 Forum Apprentice

    That "focused on defeating enemies equal to his/her strength and rewarded accordingly" is a load of crap. Truth is "focused on defeating enemies equal to his/her strength and getting almost no rewards". In a grind mmo like this, my time is my currency. So I calculate how much stuff I get by farming 1 hour. And the figures I'm getting are just ridiculous. You must farm months and years to have any progress. I think I gave this example before somewhere: for a +10 dmg gem (costs about 6000 ander) I must farm 30 hours (since NOW I get 200 ander in 1 hour). So I must farm 2 hours a day for 2 weeks for a lousy 10 damage pffff too much waste of time.

    An idea to remove grinding is to make repeatable quests that give same rewards as grinding (ander, CoTs, coins,essences and other various items). Quests should be challenging and rather long to complete, but with great rewards at the end.

    And, put back 100% ander drops on all bosses, especially main (Heredur, Khalys, Herald, etc).

    Put the damn greed aside and make a fun and enjoyable game, BP, not a mind-numbing unrewarding grindfest.
     
  20. vixmax

    vixmax Someday Author

    I like this game
     
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