Archers desperately NEED instant stuns like all other classes.

Given: same ess, same uniques, same stats, same gems.
Archers will lose 100% every time because they can't stun anyone. When dks start beating archers everytime, you know something really wrong is going on. The problem is that everyone can run away from the bird, skill is completely useless and takes 2 seconds to person. Net is useless too because any decent player doesnt move predictably in a straight line...........So, archers can't stun anyone.

 

True. Dragonknights can run and evade attack easily. They can play hide and seek or time exhaustion. Those dragonknight who said they need to receive a lot of damage before landing one on opponent are basically not capable of fully mastering their skills and running strategically

 

if archers need instant stun like all other classes, the sw NEED life regen like all other classes, don't you think that would be fair ?

if you can't stun anyone with bird or net that means you're the ones who are not capable of mastering their skills...

 

If you're a skilled enough ranger you can stun targets quite often, especially dks, it's all about finding a pattern, predicting your opponents next move and acting 1 step ahead of them

 

Maes is right about that and he is a very skilled ranger. Ranger's net should be a throwing linear net instead of a slow parabolic falling net.

 

Set aside spellweaver which is out of topic, the stuns of ranger and dragonknight are inherently different. Bird prey has a delay which you need to be very close for it to hit the target and even close enough as it seem would hit, DK can still evade quickly with skill and their fast travel speed. The Net is just a small circled area, you can hit target quite often if you are skillful and capable of predicting a player's pattern. However it is harder to execute when compared with DKs'. Also DK can excute three stun consecutively while rangers only two at max. So DKs can activate shield while coming to stun and run away play hide and seek with obstacles and regenerate full health again. Basically their damage taken are minimum. If you try to chase them with adrenaline, that's not quite a wise option since you are losing the chance to evade their stun (Unless with Lv 40 PvP talent) If you try to wait for them to come, they can repeat the same thing hide and seek, then regenerates full health again. The lv 35 PvP talent could help ranger evade, but hard to have zero damage taken not to mention without life regeneration.

Yes to a certain extent, but if a Dk play hide and seek. It's never easy to stun succesfully. Even stunned, they could be in a position that your arrows cannot reach. In the long run, hide and seek can win most of the time.

 

I have no problem with a slight improvement in the speed of ranger stun attacks. I think instant stuns is a little too much to ask for an already powerful class. However, before ANY improvements in stuns for other classes are considered, the DK stun charge bug needs to be GONE. Stun charge should work every time on every target, unless they are immune. This is the way it once was, and no announcement changing that was ever made, so it is bugged and has been for six months or more. As it is now, a moving target is not stun-able with reliability using stun charge. Before anyone's stunning abilities are improved, the stuns that are in game now (not just DK stun charge, but any other bugged stuns) need to work as advertised. I think this is only fair to ask.

 

Yes, it is impossible to get a DK when they decide to play "hide and seek" in 3v3. Something has to be fixed about those DKs and their regeneration. I play a ranger myself but I don't think we should get instant stun. Cutting off some of the time for net and bird should do, but the current stun moves are seriously way too slow.

 

sounds like poor skilled medicore payer ranger corner what else do you want?? 4xdamage&speed&attackspeed?? maybe we make button for you too that kills instantly every enemy

stop crying, learn how to play, use $$$$(or bot or both, it's up to you ) and youll be fine

and before you hatemail me you need to understand that every char-class have weaknesses and this is one of yours..

 

Net is very efficient you just have to use it properly.
Bird of pray is excellent ,if used in proper time, both for stunning and killing opponents. With correct skills and talents bird can fly longer and faster and can be deadly for most average players.
There is another powerful stun that can not be reversed and that is the wooden wraith's skill of tying the opponents. Of course if your wraith is not controlled by SW.

 

Now I am relatively new to the game and even newer to the forum so I have spent quite a bit of time reading and searching through various threads.

Over the past few months there are threads saying one particular character is too hard while others claiming the character is too weak.

Here's a semi recent thread saying archers are too hard.

 

No one chooses the "bird talent" because it is not useful at all. Would you rather a skill that you use once every 30+ seconds to travel "a tiny bit" faster or your arrows? Wood Wraith can now be reversed if I am correct while the talent sucks when you have a SW on opponent team and it is not a "stun" it is a slow.

Don't guess, get some evidence. Not that I'm boasting, but I am a "skillful" player able to beat players with stronger stats. The stun move casting time of a ranger is indeed a big drawback. I don't really care if they don't shorten it since I cope fine with it right now. However, DKs playing hide and seek seriously has to be fixed. If you don't have this problem in TDM, you haven't played enough and fought with good DKs. Do you know how painful it gets when 2 DK marshals try to exhaust each other to death until the round is concluded as a "DRAW"? Have you ever experienced how a TDM(3v3) match can last longer than 2 full games of 5v5?

 

Believe me it is very useful . I use it and it serves me great. I don't even see when my opponent dying ... I just release bird and continue to other opponent.
But the training is important. After some time you will certainly know if the bird will hit or miss the target.

 

now listen yourself... you are just trying to remove all ranger weaknesses... what after that? you beat everybody 100-0... yes sounds very EDIT reasonable thing to do -.-

if you cannot catch them it's your lack of skill or warriors talent. you can choose which suits better to you

although... i have said from day 1 when warriors got those super healing skills that they are OP in arena because they can and will just run to exhaustion. it's just that this problem is not solved by strengthening rangers.

 

Read the whole thing before replying. I said, "I don't really care if they don't shorten it since I cope fine with it right now. However, DKs playing hide and seek seriously has to be fixed." Did i say strengthen rangers to beat DKs? I play all four classes myself and personally enjoy exhausting people stronger to death just to abuse the OPness of regeneration.

 

By answering to thread "archers-desperately-need-instant-stuns-like-all-other-classes" you are saying that yes ranges needs to be strengthened? if you need to say weak dk then start a new thread coz you are off topic

 

DK needs desepately a ranged attack, more dmg and more walking speed ... ... otherwise they can't kill anyone (only exhaust them)

please stop this " we need that, we need this ". Each class has it's weaknesses, but none it obsolete.

Honestly, in general rangers are probably the best class for PvP, so why do you complain ?