Abusing Premium + 40 fame tree

I have recently noticed that premium members with level 40 VIP tree tend to abuse the talent in PVE. They go into a map and keep committing suicide with red essence to clear the map or farm ander or kill hard to kill monsters. I have recently witnessed ander farming with this technique in PW and can easily farm 1k ander per hour. Also, with the desert of essence event coming, I think something has to be changed. Last time, everyone just went exploding to clear the red and yellow bosses without wasting much effort. One parameter you guys can change is that essence effect is halved while using this talent. So red essence turns into 150% instead of 300%. Another parameter that you guys should add is during PVE, this talent will only activate once per minute. A cooldown box should be showing the time left of the CD like the icons of a buff, pet, or costume.

 

I don't see a prblm with this one, if they have enough patience and are really that lazy, it's their prblm. Won't hurt anyone if they can farm few anders more, although I find it incredibly silly; game is here to be played, not to go die 1000 times.

 

grave the way that use the players to farm isnt like in the pvp arena that they use this kind of suicide in 6vs 6 and 5vs 5 to get the victory fasterso they steal the chances of the other players will lower fame level.if they are in your group that helps also you.if they ar e in different group that doent effects you.

 

Thats true, I know some of these grave diggers that compliting the full moon event with the minimum amount of essences. This way takes them like for ever per round, but they use less ess and portals by far from all the others. And it is not unfair since it is not like a bug or something and not take any of your kills. As for pvp purposes since it is a pvp skill... you have to live with that.

 

it really isnt easier blowing up ..who wants to keep dying and go back plus items disappear after a minute i think this isnt a problem

 

That wouldn't be a problem. Items disappear after 5 minutes. The best farming spot would be cata PW. You run in and suicide near the respawn point right in the middle of the two entrances. revive immediately and die again. Clear the area and pick your drops and refresh map. Takes about 1 second to die when you don't use a shield and get attacked by a whole bunch of monsters.

This is part of the "free ess problem". These PVP tree skills should cost like 6 essence lol! If you are equipping essence, that should mean you are using it in battle anyways. If you die and deal dmg, it wouldn't hurt you to deal dmg with ess if you are not abusing the skill. Last desert of essence, all I saw was a group of 5 killing the red ess boss without any effort. If you wanted to fight it regularly, you would most likely waste time, blue ess, and even pots.

I don't see how that kind of skill can help in 5v5 or 6v6 to get a quicker win. I just need to explode about 2 times with red ess and every regular mob in cata spawn point dies and I pick my drops.

 

in 6vs 6 when they are in red team they run fast or use teleport and dragons'skin(mage and dk ).they go to the mechanisms and they attack and when the other team kill them they destroy the mechanism with the damage of the 40 level skills.in the 5 vs 5 they use it to kil all the players with one wave and take the flag.these actions take place on purpose not accidetally.

 

It is a misunderstanding that the lvl 40 pvp explosion affects structures in 6v6. I used to think it did, and (I think) maybe it used to, but it does not any more. It only affects players now. The main damage to the structure in that situation is coming from the meteor/burn that was dropped by a SW or a DK's Dragon Fury that persists after death. The lvl 40 PvP talent does not affect structures.

Yes, the situation you described in 5v5 does take place, with a flag-running character following an exploding SW and taking the flag after a lot of the defenders die. However, that explosion is slow and defenders should be ready to jump or run from it. If they do not, they probably deserve to die.

 

since when?yesterday i saw that these mechanisms(of the bridge,and mechanism that controls the launcers)destroy by this talent.

 

OK, I get that you think that. I say you are mistaken. Something else destroyed those structures. Make a SW and try to use the explosion talent to destroy/damage those structures. It doesn't do anything.

[As a side note, essences also don't increase the damage against structures from normal attacks. Essences are only useful against other players in 6v6, not structures. Try to use greens or blues on a defensive tower. You'll see no difference in the damage you do to it vs having no essence equipped.]

 

Well, I know there are plenty of premiums so I guess they won't ever agree to this And explosion does not destroy structures as far as I can tell.

 

It's a lazy and unskillful way to play, but it's their choice.

In pvp, hmm, I might agree with you there.
But, I don't know, there are so many ways to not play a good clean match already. For some players, winning at any cost will always be everything.

 

Change from my original line of thought: SW explosions are not supposed to affect structures in 6v6. However, the SW explosion is currently bugged and is affecting structures (my sincere apology for not believing you, taxi1).

I just became aware of this when playing 6v6 this morning. This needs to be fixed ASAP! It turns winning a defense from already unlikely to completely impossible!

I will post this in the technical section as a bug report, if it has not already been put there.

 

The answer is simple. Their equipment should degrade with each death.

 

Yep, would totally work. However, that means people can only die a certain amount of time before they have to totally quit the map. This would suck for newbies that continuously respawn to try and beat some event maps Just give the skill a 1 minute+ CD in PVE!

 

i dont understand how anyone can have a problem with someone doing that. pve-wise its not like if effects you and it is a perk they paid for afterall so why not take advantage of it?

 

Really?
This "perk" helped and bot users. No andermants for respawn no andermants for changing maps.

 

This though would've never came to me independently. I had to hear it from y'all.

First, IF I made it high enough to earn the pvp lvl 40 skill, I damn sure wouldn't be committing suicide.

But I guess Ash is correct, people play differently.

 

Sorry for interrupting but can you contact me about joining your guild? I have not seen you online while I am playing. I am a level 11 spellweaver named Sinthya.

 

Who you talking to?