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  1. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    Ok, so .. the more I play the more I don't like rediculous craft feature when you need to pay huge amount of gold to just craft 1 legendary item! :O What where you guys thinking?
    How am I sopose to get a legendary cristal that I need badly when crafting is to expensive, and it's not like it's raining legendary items in game? I realy don't see the end to gring in game, it's bigger then it was when CoT was colectable .. seriously, how did you think that this will reduce the grind when it's actualy increasing it? :O
    Further more, I'am seriously questioning why did I comeback to play this again? This game is so unfer to players right now and it was an awsome game when I started it over 1 year ago.
    Good job on "killing" an awsome game!
     
  2. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    Well I used to spend a lot of time farming CoT now that has changed to farming gold. What I have done was keep track of the time I spend farming CoT vrs gold and found that I can get gold faster. Now without premium that might get harder due to repair. Finding a map where I do not due might play an important role when I loose premium.
     
  3. alexgriffin81

    alexgriffin81 Forum Apprentice

    Quite devastated by this release... Losing the Crystals of Truth I can handle, although that's one less item drop to cheer about, thus losing a facet in the diversity of grinding. My 2 main issues are: The price of using the workbench is woefully high, rendering workbenching almost useless, and certainly in a casual daily quest sense. But the biggest of all, is the restriction of entering maps that are "too high" for your level.

    I have a very powerful low level character (23) which I'm trying not to level up, and so I group with level 29+ members. Now I can't enter their dungeons. If this is also true of Event maps then there's absolutely no hope of me having an incentive to play. Sorry to sound like a moaning ungrateful gamer for an otherwise excellent game, but now just find myself logging in daily without playing, in the hope that this won't be a permanent fixture.
     
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  4. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    I agree. I've found it a little easier for gold, but not enough to claim that the grinding has gone away. I've been farming HOD and getting 37 to 40 in gold for filling up 4 bags of inventory (112 gear items) .... that is not what I would consider improvement... By going solo and killing everything on the map, it would take me between 8 and 9 hours to craft 1 legendary item...

    If I go to a regular map like Stalgard, which is faster but lots of white gear items, it drops to 25-29 gold per 4 full inventory bags...

    While 1 a day may seem tolerable to BP, if I were to wanting to craft legendary items to get what I need, that would completely eliminate me from ever using the jesters or saving up for one of the new mounts, or crafting/swapping gems...

    It really seems like those who thought this up haven't really played the game... All of us that have know it can takes several dozen crafting attempts to get a decent/good item. At the current price structure it could take a year of heavy farming to find and craft that 1 good item.

    The improvement in drops is noticeable, but nowhere near enough to make up for the price increase.
     
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  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    It is players like you that the developers were trying to cut off at the knees. One of the points of this game is to level up and improve your character, Not use other players as XP shields so that you can keep your toon artificially low to rule in PvP. I was thrilled to see that change and I hope they make even more changes that will discourage twinks.
     
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  6. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I think the idea was to make the gear obtained more organically; by leveling up and obtaining legendary pieces. In the past, players would either pick a level to end at and use the cots only for gear suitable for that level and ignore other drops (for example, not identifying a legendary level 37~42 weapon); now you should id everything and use whatever is most useful until you get something better.
    Yeah, there were a lot of complaints about low level characters holding to their level and dominating pvp; as Baragain says, the developers pretty much want to end that.
     
  7. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    The last three days of premium chests ive received have been sad. Two days in a row with a SINGLE chest key, and today a health pot. Please take those items off the loot table for premium chests. My reward for ligging in for the day should not be something I can get from a shabby chest.
     
  8. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Mysterious cubes for Premium is just way too unfair. 25% fame bonus is kinda unfair as well. Great job removing CoT as it does make much more sense focusing on drops. However, if the crafting price could be lowered by just a little...... (maybe 20% or so) from eo to legendary that would be great.
     
  9. Goldreich

    Goldreich Forum Apprentice

    Well that's a slightly churlish comment. Other players LIKE being xp shields in parties, as it means they get all the xp for themselves. Also the 'artificially' low level aspect for my character has nothing to do with PVP for me personally, but actually for events.
     
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  10. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    This is actually the norm for these "big" surprise chests. With all of my accounts premium now because of the compensation I have 30+ toons getting these chests every day. My rough count for premium chests is about 30% are red/purple ess or 10 lockpicks (good new rewards.) Then about 30% stuff that came in old chests (blue ess, gear & universal pots.) Finally, at a whopping 40%, are one lockpick and a Kaboom every now and then (OK, Kabooms can be useful in a few parts of the game if you have enough of them :p)
    The mysterious cubes are not really all that big of a deal. Yes, some do have legendary gear but most have EO gear or splintered/simple gems. A few have even had green gear. I have yet to get any of the uniques but in all fairness I only have a few of my mains that are high enough level for that.

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
  11. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    The mysterious cube set is really strong. (damn it, even one piece can be really strong with stats that you will never find on a legendary.) Furthermore, you can win 1k ander and polished gems from it. I don't really mind the big surprise chests but the cubes are ridiculous. If you really hate them, you can even sell them for 5 gold each.

    Also, another question to moderators or devs. By any chance is the gold price bugged? On test server items sold for much more. Furthermore, on the latest twitch session, the assistant producer mentioned the price for selling is same before and after being identified. However, that is not the case. Was the price of selling items supposed to be changed?
     
  12. Play.4.Fun

    Play.4.Fun Someday Author

    You said that you have improved drop with R139 but everyone who played so far know that is not true. About PVP part I will not even talk, and the errors that appear in the game ....

    There is no option to upload screenshots but... my guild have less gold than me???? My first stelar gold and event progres is: me 1 gold, my guild 0 gold :)))

    Im "favored" in PVP duel against lvl21 novice centurion??? How can lvl16 ardent regrut be in same class with +5 lvl and more than +5 fame lvl player? Not to mention that I have sreenshoot that said "Loss" and 0 fame points... but 1 lucky coin. And when I win against fer opponent I dont get lacky coin, but if I win against player -4 or -5lvl than there is the coin each time :))))

    Is there any admins in the game? You beat tha player in arena and you get whisper: EDIT ???

    You must stepup and make this game realy good if you want to call it masterpiece.
     
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  13. Durrendal

    Durrendal Padavan

    Yes Drop rates haven't improved at all.

    And when you next login, the count becomes okay. The system registers your gold count only after you logout.
     
  14. Tumpelo

    Tumpelo Forum Apprentice

    after todays "fix" server restart, seems drop rate an items have been reduced even more, i have done same maps for long time and lot, so i have seen what it gives at good or bad runs... now it gives almost only white and green stuff, few blue with 4 map runs, if lucky 1-2 extraordinary every 2 hours. yellow and orange equips are only memory now. andermants have been reduced too as loot a lot, that is really bad addition with other failures with these upgrades.. not happy with this situation and gettin annoyed with these constant problems and mislead information.
     
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  15. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    i noticed the same thing,:(
     
  16. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    I've been waiting to hear back from support before posting this. Needed to make sure it was not unintentional and an exploit.

    There is a big loophole for players that unlocked high level maps prior to R139. They can still access these maps using the travel stones instead of the restricted urban area exits. So it's going to be a while before existing players have to stop farming behind gappers. So while no new twinks can be built this way the existing ones can party on :rolleyes:

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
  17. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I asked that question and was told that it was so that players who had the PvP quests in the later areas could still teleport to the towns where the quest keepers are. Still hoping they will close that particular "Exploit" sooner rather than later while still letting those people to get to the towns where their quests are or put new quest keepers in Kingshill... after all, I'm not totally heartless.:p:rolleyes:
     
  18. Amiaria

    Amiaria Forum Apprentice

    The cost of crafting is insane I used to love crafting just to see what you would get , (I was in the middle of an experiment that has gone by the wayside). It is a gamble every time and I might have gotten 1 or 2 items I actuallly kept from crafting the majority of them I melted.
    Farming for gold for low level characters (mine are in the 20's)

    I did not mind buying anders (on sale ) to buy COT (also when on sale).
    Farming for gold for low level characters (mine are in the 20's) An average run I may collect up to 1-2 gold to craft 1 blue item I need almost 6 gold, and no idea if the item will be any good. Not worth the bother anymore.
    Daily log in bonus ,, the last few days I have gotten a green item below my level IE level 16 I cannot recall before getting a Green item usually blue or pink and was my level or very close any one else notice this ?
    Seaskye
     
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  19. Wiggles

    Wiggles Active Author

    No it just that people will pay any amount to get to that sit kill everything experience gaming. People buy what they can. Most people who scream free to play or pay to play don't really know what those terms mean.

    Just because they offer XP, and gear, and stuff for the suckers who think it makes them entitled to something does not mean a thing.

    Some people like the upgrade path and enjoy building up a character. And buying only the things that will be with you through out these kinds of games.
     
  20. Play.4.Fun

    Play.4.Fun Someday Author

    With R139 you made min level rule for the maps.... but what with all other charachters that already abuse this?????

    Few moments ago in arena a had a chance to see level 6 character EDIT with polar bear??? All that battles in 1vs1 and still lvl6???? Next to him is character EDIT that is level 2 ranger and cant be killed.... whan HP reach 5-10% its magicly refill. Grate game realy....

    P.S. Just one question... what items, so powerfull, could lvl2 player have to be so strong aganst lvl9 player?
     
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