Action house {trade vendor}

hey guys ..

i have been thinking lately why don't we have a trade vendor?


for example: a player who can't buy anderments can farm a deep sea item and put it in the vendor sells { the player choose the price like 100 gold or 2000 anderments} so when other player who have anderments{or gold} and want that deep sea item he can buy it and the guy who added the item can receive the anderments

this way u can earn anderment by hard work farming if you can't buy

and people will pay for more anderments to buy the missing item from their set and u can add a minimum amount of price to avoid abuse

give me your opinion please.

 

Ah, it has been a while since I'd seen one of these... I guess it was time for another one to pop up. Short answer... not for gold and not for ander. It would be way to easy too abuse. I've resonded to this a couple of time and below is my cookie cutter answer. And even though it doesn't cover gold, it is not to hard to extrapolate how this could extend to gold (Just gamble the starting ander instead of direct transfer).

Here is a copy/paste job from the last time it came up.

I didn't mention it in that post, but also, because of the friend invite system, every new character I start gets a polished ruby and a sapphire. For even easier and quicker ander, I could just sell the polished ruby for 3k ander and the saphire for 1k. Spend 200 of that 4k to rest the toon and do it all over. In addition to making it really easy to get high end rubies and sapphires, it would also devalue those gems so such a point that after a couple of weeks, they would only sell for a small amount of ander to such a point that anyone with enough gold to craft royal versions of these gems for less than 10k ander a piece. This cheep supply of gems could be prevented by your recommendation to impose a minimum price, but then it would further reinforce the easy ander from making another toon.

Like I said in the quote, Draken based trade has the possibility to be viable, and I welcome anyone to please poke holes in that theory, but ander and gold based trade would be a disaster.

 

ok i guess u are right thx for reply.

 

Sorry, I don't mean to just shoot you down, but I've had way too much time to think about these sorts of things. Keep thinking about ways to make the game better, but always think about if it would be exploited.

 

It is possible, they would just need to impose a better structure/system regarding how much you can buy or sell over/under an items supposed ander or gold value (a set value determined by the game).
Moreover, they could ensure a player can only buy or sell an item of their current level, to avoid manipulating the first structure.

 

if anyone heard of Travian game they made a system once u drop something in trade u can't see the it from other accounts of same ip and when some one add something it caan be under check for 24 hours to save the ip or smthing then other players can see it

 

Too easy, either run a proxy/VPN to change your IP or use something like Tor... you no longer exist in one spot, you can be in the USA one min and Brazil the next, and another min after that, your IP says Germany. As I said before, you need to think like someone out to exploit the system, because if you don't think that way before releasing a product, you will have to think twice as hard and twice as fast after the fact when people are using and abusing your lack of foresight.

 

Games with trade vendors also have RMTs and that breaks games so much. Also having accounts stolen is very popular. Now I would love for then to put a way for us to get anderment with farming uniques but I also see it as a way to loose income. Keep the ideas a flowing though your likely to have a greate one soon.

 

The only "fair" trading system would be NPC trading.

Now of course this would eliminate some of the grind and benefit players, so it would never, ever be considered, because that would defeat the goal...but.....

If a NPC trader was created, a player could (as an example) fight an event boss and get multiple pairs of boots, while never getting the gloves that they want. That player would then go to the trader and exchange X number of boots for the gloves they want.

Same could go for pet parts. If a player gets multiple of part 1 but never gets part 4, an exchange could be made for that missing part.

Would also work for gems (of same level)... swap diamonds for amethysts, or onyx for rubies, but again this would benefit players ............

 

I think this would not be a good idea. Even if I also need several items, ppl could get them too easy and early and lose interest in various maps or even the whole game as there is no target to reach. A good example is khalys, if you get the weapon you may never visit it again and go farm q6 m2 knights for more glyphs.
On the other hand if a player need a good legendary item or uniq, he/she has to go and farm until get it.
Farming also mean income for BP (use essencies, craft legends, use spirit stones, buy premium etc.) which ensures that the dev team has the necessary income

 

@Rhysingstar

I like your idea it would remove melts from the game in trade for items you need.

 

Ha ha ha. Yo, this is not reinventing the wheel. =) Many MMOs have trading systems. Why don't they get so abused and DSO's will? )

BP could easily try to add it on Steam.. and a bunch of problems are solved. Also, there will be a lot of money to be made by BigPoint through the Steam Marketplace.

Also, free content developers from the Workshop and so on.

Who am I kiddin? Valve probably wouldn't touch DSO.

 

What? They get abused all the time.

The lack of a trading system is a bonus in my mind.

 

Indeed they do, but if other games still have it.. there is a profit in there. They wouldn't just keep it for fun, right?

 

Well there are games that focus on the auction house trade vendors greatly. Since the game is geared around the auction house the spawning of enemy are done on a random timer and the drop is random. This lowers the availability of items. Any item that has a random stat is not sellable and are account bound and char bound.

 

Out of sheer curiosity.. do you think that adding it to Steam will make things easier trade-wise? Don't see any real way to abuse the system.. except the the scamming part.

There are solutions.. but as I heard from Greg.. it's not on the road map, but it isn't out of the question either.

 

Ways to abuse the system... hummmm... See post 2 by yours truly.

 

ALL trade has the ability to be abused. Items can be sold for cash off server ect.

 

predetor price will be 100k ander...i need 100 year farming ander...better use my creditcard and buy it

 

Why don't I play Diablo III?
Because they have an auction system.
As I was a low level charater, I went to the auction house and I can buy godly gems for a measly 2 copper each which when equipped makes my character invincible in low level dungeons.
What's the challenge?
Sorry, but I hate auction houses and in game trades.
If you implement that in this game, at least for me, that would be the end. It wouldn't be fun anymore to play.