Feedback Guys you think that Spell weaver is really now weaker than anyother classes?

I have a mage in lvl 42. as a mage he have low hp and armor and overall defence. but everyone say mage got the biggest dmg than everyone. i say it's not. my bro has a DK he dmg is exactly equal to me. (without uniques and tested with only legendaries) also he is the same level. but he have a massive defence. he have armor above 60% and block above 45% and crit rate above 35% and crit rate with two handed is above 45% and has a hp near 7k. ***? the only downside for dk is they have only melee. and they also have ranged attacks like ground breaker , charge and stable like dragon's fury. which is not ranged but it looks like and they are very much help ful. even if they have more dmg than dk it is like 20 or 50. the mage class is so underpowered and needs some modification {Note: all are tested without uniques and gems. only with legendary items} and there is bug where they announced 'no more dmg enchantment in shield for dk' but it's stilll have! they must make mages ave more dmg..

 

Be right back, going to get some popcorn so I can watch the carnage that will follow without having to get up.

 

does voting in the poll will really make any difference we want in game? btw how many of you satisfied in mage? DK is really OP.

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Does you play in tegan server? i too wanted to play but there are no players... only few. even it is american server, its ard to find players speaking english.

 

We are absolutely fine. Just improve your gear and you will notice yourself that we are just as good as the other classes. SW might need more time obtaining gear than the other classes but it is definitely worth it.

 

Don't try to tank with a SW unless you have Dragan set, a sick ball and a crapload of gems. Just focus on aggro gear, try to keep your distance and dodge. Low HP and armor are compensated for by lots of splash damage and crowd control spells.

 

Dwarf is still weaker than any other class at endgame, unless running with the flag in 5v5.

 

I think often people stand in a town and watch the local chat and if they don't understand it they assume no one speaks english. Tegan is packed with English speakers, we just don't usually stand around towns unless we're waiting on PVP or just got a new mount or cape to show off Try this, go to Watery Grave and shout "yo' momma", you will get plenty of responses in english

 

Gamin, i agree somewhat that the SW is not as strong as other characters but we do ok, it takes a long time and a lot of hard work to get your character up to that level and there are a lot of toons on tegan who are super strong. Your right tegan is a smaller server so maybe the ratio of strong to weak not the same as them larger servers. Finally on the language almost everyone has basic english on tegan as well as a few native speakers me included. You have to remember there is a huge south and central america population and asian population on tegan. Dont be fooled just because they are from asia some of their english skills are better than native speakers.

 

Have a part time SW I play. Armor is at 69.94% (3777) on it currently at lvl 41, and that's just from gear I crafted to legendary with maybe 3 polished cyanites as armor gems. All the gear I crafted except for amulet and rings I got lucky on and got huge armor enchantments. I do have Grimmags starry Robe equipped but that's the only unique piece it has. But even that has close to 400 armor plus mana boost for me now since I upgraded it to lvl 40.
So you can get high armor gear for SW just like any other class. Now it just needs lots of resistance and HP gems to balance the gear and for an SW it's not bad at all.

 

Yes we have lower armor and hp, but we have own goods like continuous damage. it's hard for us to fight some insane warriors if they are fast enough, it's also hard to fight an end game archer with royal stones, but otherwise I would say we are very successful in both PVP and PVE. I can solo Khalys hard withe no essence, for instance.

The only thing I miss in the game is an end boss design for solo. It's easy for tanks to kill mortis, almost impossible for us. I can go as far as 75 percents for now. Guess BP could adjust that for individual classes taking into account lack of healing skills.

But overall spellweaver is the easiest and funniest to play with. I have tank too

 

You also need to take mind, that a double handed DK can easily beat a Spellweaver's damage and they don't die cause of the lvl 35 talent 'rush of blood' it gives them both defence and offence. and so all the characters have both both defence and offence equally. but a Spellweaver doesn't have heal skill. but yeah, Spellweaver is for damage oriented, but this too worse than we thought. just play a warrior all extra ordinary items and compare with an Spellweaver with all extra ordinaries. im sure DK will have more dmg and all. im just complaining about the enchantments.. even though they have uniques with dmg enchantments than anyother, they are still weak. they need more and more reconstruction. if you dont have a group, then he is waste. if you want to hoin for a group, they will ask you about your dmg. you will tell the truth, and they will say 'not enough'. you will get pissed off. and without a group a mage can't go solo unless he is a damn payer. and so how will you get good items in event or anywhere?... bigpoint must take care about that..

 

Well, I agree the 2 handed DK is somewhat the most respected PVE to have in the party. The high damage one of course. I only play with those when doing Khalys/Mortis. Otherwise, DK cannot hold Mortis as my damage would be too high. if he can, we usually kill Mortis on blue in two minutes.

I agree 2handed DK is the best for M2 speed farm, but I can do that with my mage too, but need some blue.

As for the damage, if you have 'not enough', make it enough. My damage (usually for khalys) setup with book of shadows (which you could get now from sargon) gives 1600 max dmg with buffs. I would say I'm highly appreciated member of all teams

But I hear what you say. 2handed DK has the best of everything, but it's a long way to build one, trust me. I'm still building.
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as a mage, I can solo everything in the game but Mortis, but I will finally do that in few weeks.

 

Thought maybe I would chime in. I can tell you from highest to lowest for weakness. I will tend to focus on weakness as survivability to mobs. Now all classes can be weak as in your gear will make you die a lot but let's look at class structure for this. Mage fame 40 can have Cynite Shield this will make you impervious to virtually all attacks for a few seconds. Guess what as of yet there is no cool down time. Use a hp pot get it again. Dragon Knights on the other had have something similar at higher levels. These two classes are the "lest weakest" (air quotes added doubt that it a real term but trying to keep with OP.) The other classes are not weak ether but...

 

I always think of the words my guild's gear guru said whenever I see these threads about mage survivability... "If you don't get hit, it doesn't matter how much armor you have."

SWs got a lot of ranged attacks, and there's no shame in running away while killing whatever it is. XD

 

To be honest, I dont care about DK that much. But how do you guys play against archers? actually I meant Archers. I find them the hardest opponents, as you can't really run. Duels are easier, but open maps or kingshill arena are tough for me. Especially those in the warlord set. Still lots of damage if you are marked.

 

Well the level makes a difference. What level are you. Well talk about level 45.

There are was around this but this is only a suggestion.

Run away from him wait for then to jump, freeze them then use Mind Control lay down 3 Singularities encompassing him and teleport and Meteor and build mana Lighting Strike.

 

I have never pvp'd my SW ... but from my point of view ... meteor is too slow and is telegraphed by the red circle on the ground ...and with destruction ... takes too long to build it up before it fires ... so a question to experienced SW pvp'ers ... are these skills actually useful in pvp? or do you find them too slow??
Just curious,
Thanks, Doc.

 

Those skills are more important in group fights,as they deal high damage to lots of players.

 

For those who voted a big NO is so obvious that both character ( rg and dk ) enjoy killing sw so much as they are really too squishy.
3 singularities built mana then meteor, why need so many skills just for Sw.
Sw need crits to score a high damage, without them those hits is so pathetic in hundreds.
Rangers precision minimum takes away 2k the very least and so does those dks smash.
Some Dks damage is even more higher than a sw, and their defence is so high together with healing abilities is impossible to kill them.
They just spam their wild swing is enough to kill spellweaver, LOL
See how lame it is their game

 

Yes, lvl 45 with lvl 40 fame, not a kid mage: in a ball setup: 1400 max dmg, 1700crit, 230% crit dmg, 1.8 speed, 6k hp, 3k armor, 1200blockrate, 900 block amount. this is with the slow boots. Speed boots are -900 armor +23% of speed. In duel, I'm using speed boots and it works pretty nice. On the open maps you are marked all the time since appeared and it's hard to do something

My current plan is to lower dmg by 100 but add 1000 armor and see if it is any better. And I hate switching back to dragan set, would be a massive crit loss, so will need to rebuild char again.