Endless grinding for exp

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  1. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    This topic has gotten so far from where I started it.

    My whole point was that it isn't necessary to have the major dead spots in the progress. There could be more quests which would at least give some purpose to grind. Just google "I have no quests drakensang" and you'll see that this is not a new phenomenon.

    Adding more quests doesn't necessarily mean that the progress has to happen faster, it would simply give purpose to some of the grind.

    Is it really any wonder why some people chose to use bots?

    For those who don't find that the endless grind is a big deal, all I can say is that I wish I had your patience.

    On Tegan, I can go sit for hours in Watery Grave and watch the players sit around waiting for a pvp match. There is very little activity outside of that, so teaming up for pw runs is not a great solution to breaking up the grind until you get strong enough to solo it.

    Of course once you get strong enough, you can do pw solo, but again it gets boring after you have done it a few hundred times (think cloak of power quest).

    Again you can wait for luck to find you and something useful might drop, but we all know that is just about an exercise in futility.

    The only other option seems to be twink yourself until you can have fun in pvp, which to me would be even more boring but for those that like that it is an option.

    I've played a little lately during the event and while I didn't find any luck, at least it is a different map that I haven't ran for months on end.

    I like to think that the new expansion will bring some reason to play steadily again, but everyone knows what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over expecting different results...
     
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  2. XenaGirl90

    XenaGirl90 Advanced

    That's the only way you can level faster is by doing quests with your training, i suggest levels up 5 levels per area to keep a bit ahead of the game, but you need to watch your attack and critical hit levels too, i made the mistake of leveling too fast so i need to get my critical hit and attack up, just managed to get my critical hit up a bit more. I'm not sure how you can balance critical hit with % critical hit, i find it too much of a difficult thing to do, i would really love more ring slots to mak that easier.
     
  3. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    The point of this thread is XP grind when you have no more quests to do, but that only happens around lv40+. Until then, yeah, just focus on every area until you complete it, and don't enter the next until you've finished the one before (also, it's better not to enter any map that is above your level; for example, if it's lv36-37, I wouldn't enter with a character under lv36). As you said, watching your stats is also good (though, until higher levels, you're usually fine by just equipping any better gear you come across). Then, you said something about balancing Critical Hit Rate with Critical Damage? If that's so, don't worry about it. 200% is usually enough... maybe you'd want more toward cap-level, but enchants I've found on items or seen others have got are far too low, and usually are just a waste of an enchantment (for example, say you're a lv45 DK looking for an awesome two-handed weapon... and you get 2 enchants of 5% CD; it ruins it). Just focus on Critical Hit Rate/Value and Damage, as far as offense is concerned.
     
  4. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    I've made that mistake too. Now, at this point in my game, I pace myself. Lvl 45 is gonna be there waiting for me, whether I rush to it or not, and Not rushing (for me, anyway) works better at letting me keep my power/stats up to quest-appropriate levels.

    Understandably (if unfortunately for players), it is the nature of these games to inspire the rush/race mentality cuz then you spend more $$$. Special events further heighten this mindset. I've always been fascinated by the prodigious use of psychology in these games (especially variable-interval reinforcement; it's what makes gambling so addictive).
     
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  5. XenaGirl90

    XenaGirl90 Advanced

    Yeh it's a must want, must have game to get your adermant but i'm not letting them have it until i need something, it must be difficult from 40+ though to level... but you've just got a new area so if your 45 you should be able to level to 50 (when you can do), wth no problem, i never leave an area until i've 5 levels above the next area because it gets harder and harder. helps you to stay balanced with them always be stronger than the level the area is, they are more like 5 levels stronger attack wise.
     
  6. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    You don't proceed until you're 5 levels above the next map? Well, I'm afraid you've fallen into the other extreme xD.
     
  7. XenaGirl90

    XenaGirl90 Advanced

    Lol no... if you do it you will see it makes things a lot easier when you get to the next map, sometimes i go up 4 depends if i can level up 5 but soon as i get to the next map i can more easily take out the monsters in the lands between the dungeons, it's worked so far between each area.
     
  8. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Of course it'll be easy if you're 4-5 levels above the map you enter... but let's take Torstrond as an example. You didn't enter it until you were lv34? That's a bit too much. It means you've spent a huge amount of time farming Herald and/or The Hidden Sanctum? Play as you like, but I find it hard to believe and too gruelling to do as you say.
     
  9. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    I tend to "scout ahead" into maps that are a few levels above me, to see how I fair (solo & w/o ess). If I can handle the mobs -- and certainly if I can handle the bosses -- I figure I'm on the right track. (Also, my bad: I may've given the impression in my prior post that I'm lvl 44. I'm lvl 39 on the brink of 40, and what I meant to say was, levels 40-45 are waiting for me, whether I rush to them or not, and once I get there, from what I've read, leveling will take longer. We'll see how this works out for me).
     
  10. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

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    Maybe a quest kill 500 worthy mobs give you x experience that increases with level.
     
  11. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    That would be nice. Daily challenges are gettin' old anyway.
     
  12. XenaGirl90

    XenaGirl90 Advanced

    Nah i just trained and got to 34 by doing the quests up to jahofrum, i stopped there though for now and i trained a lot, didn't take me long at all, i did it by training on the swamp monsters and the stongest in the lands between towns and dungeons then on the strongest dungeon in the area, up, up we go lol, i have skll so i have only ever died a couple times in the whole time i've been playing :p, i rarely ever die at these games because i've been playing them way before Drakensang, i keep all my potions too, i just collect them and only use them when i really need them. Yeh daily chalanges are pretty bad... i want to b able to defeat 100 - 500 worthy monsters every day or craft 1 or 2 items, those are reasonable but i hate the ones for PVP... i don't do PVP right now... so it's agrivating having to wait 1 or 2 more days to get another 250 ancient wisdom... i'm way behind on that.
     
  13. Hawkslayer

    Hawkslayer Junior Expert

    Sorry I must be missing something...
    So my understanding is that at lvl 40, lvling comes to a halt and the grinding begins. So why would I "farm" proir to lvl 40?
    Wouldn't I just get to lvl 40 and all the grinding for lvl 40+ provide all the necessary "stuff", instead of farming prior to lvl 40? Woundn't this be more time efficient (I know it's not a race)?
     
  14. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    Agree completely. Do it at the the right time, when it's necessary. The only consideration is that the xp gained by quests is the same regardless of level, until they disappear because you are too high a level or too low to take them. Getting them early would have a higher impact on you getting to the next level.
    Two big problems with this approach. Leveling beyond the maps you are farming may make killing easier, but you will also get less xp for those kills which makes the need to grind and the time it takes to fill in the xp difference all the greater. I understand it may be necessary if your toon can't handle the new areas, but you will also not get new gear that is the same level as your toon further exacerbating the problem of maps that are your level being too difficult.
     
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  15. fourtwenty68

    fourtwenty68 Board Analyst

    you can level up fast in this game,1 day ur at lvl 1 then next week ur at lvl 35.
    im kinda glad they have that gap.
    when u get to lvl45 u will say the same thing.
    now i just grind,finding no better gear than what i have.
    but i see ur point and it does not take long to get xp to lvl up.
    i also in most games get to 5 lvl's higher for more power n better gear,"just to complete the lower lvl quests.
    but thats all i do that for.
    now at lvl 45 i just pvp and upgrade my gear and hunt for gems.pretty boring.
    when u get to lvl 45,come back here and let us know how much fun ur having. lol
    *nudge-we need more of anything-ENDGAMERZ
     
  16. Hawkslayer

    Hawkslayer Junior Expert

  17. Morinphen

    Morinphen Forum Overlooker

    Well, one friend of mine got from lv42 to lv45 in a short while. Yes, we do have a 25% more XP event on Heredur right now, and I bet he made the most of that. I mean, I was really surprised: I played Q1 with him when we both were lv42, borderline 43. Two days later, we played again, and we both were lv43. The next day he was lv44... and 45 the one after that. I'm not sure how much time he spent playing, or if he also used other XP boosters, but it was pretty surprising to see him go up like that.
     
  18. Mindship

    Mindship Forum Inhabitant

    I'm at that point now. Leveling does Not come to a halt at 40, but it does slow down, and that can be to your advantage. It may well give you the time needed to acquire (via grinding) enough ingame currency for upgrading gear and keeping it on par with your toon's level. The one negative I have noticed though is that drop quality, well, drops. Getting a lot more grays and greens (or so it seems) farming at 40 than I did farming in the upper 30s (where I got most of my legendary drops). I presume this will change somewhat once I hit 41.

    Maybe instead of farming it should be called fishing, cuz, like fishing, 1) patience is a major virtue; and 2) you never know what you're gonna catch.
     
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  19. BigPapa

    BigPapa Forum Overlooker

    And 3) You'll never catch anything standing around in KH:D
     
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