we want game back before r155

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Do you want Drakensang become that game that was before r155 ?

  1. Yes , we need to roll back at r154

    72 vote(s)
    75.8%
  2. No , i like more what happen after r155

    23 vote(s)
    24.2%
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  1. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    give dks their passive HP regeneration skill back and passive RAGE generation skill back and i would b ok with the rest :):):):) or have dks rage pool full all the time until it gets used-like the other classes:mad::mad::mad::mad:
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2015
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  2. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    We didn't really need another thread about how most of us don't like the game anymore. As long as it is here, I will post to it. IMO, bp is waiting out the people that don't like the game. A lot of bp's problems, like lag, go away if the f2p players leave. If the strongest players leave, then there is less intimidation of the new players (who are presumably spending a lot of money).

    The game is a lot more playable if you are willing to buy red ess which would mean more cash for bp. They say that it takes a long time to fix things, but they were able to nerf the spirit chamber really, really quickly because it was something THEY wanted. So they keep saying that fixes are coming, but they don't say what or when. Some hard core players will stay, but I am playing less and less.
     
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  3. skillarea1

    skillarea1 Active Author

    rage regeneration?
     
  4. Rory34390

    Rory34390 Someday Author

    I'm not too angry about the crit nerf, with a decent axe i can get to 45% which is great. The problem is ; this after noon I have done 20 runs m2 (with blue ess) or 100 knights but I only got 2 purple axes :c so I decided to craft them with a purple 2h sword and hammer only to get a crap 2h sword.

    This really pissed me off!
    EDIT:
    Also I just tried mortis solo with red ess and I couldn't do it! I could solo it with blue ess before r155! not happy...
     
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2015
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  5. Hannai

    Hannai Someday Author

    Too true but also.. BP has forced already cash players to spend even more to get their toons back to the way they were in crit and HP.. except now.. they have made even more super cash toons which will be WAY more intimidating than f2p OP players! We all tasted what it was like trying pvp for the first few times.. many never went back! I don't think DSO thought this out at ALL! Just had $$$ tunnel vision.

    A good few in our guild are f2p like me and we saw this coming... My GM is pure f2p also and OP as hell! We grinded like crazy to get our stats! He helps everyone everyday.. BP are not only weeding out the f2p but really decent, fun, helpful people. Like i said before.. gonna have a game of obnoxious egomaniacs with too much time and money trash talking in local! Good luck to them! That's not fun for me.
     
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  6. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    So, is there anyone who can kill mortis solo or in a group without spending a LOT of ander?
     
  7. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    I killed him in a group w/o ander, but it cost 2200 red ess and 20 pots. My DK was level 48 and is a 1H dk, and I had 2 level 49 rangers helping. Not gonna be doing that again, though.
     
  8. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    So, if bp is reading our posts, I would like to know if this is their intention. Do they really want mortis to be nearly impossible for most players to kill? Mortis (weapon at the end of time) is a quest that everyone gets. I would like all the new players to know that they will get to a point in this game where they won't be able to get any farther. I think that the fun has been taken out of this game.
     
  9. Darwarren

    Darwarren Count Count

    Your point is well taken. BP threw a lot of people under the bus, in hopes of finding new customers.
    Remember Aesop's Fables,'To kill the Goose That Laid the Golden Eggs'? It's an idiom used of an unprofitable action motivated by greed.
    Their is a madness alternative: they wanted to drive players away, to make their lives better.
    They don't say much, do they?
     
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  10. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You were killing level 45 Mortis with good gear upgraded to level 50 (or below) ... now you want to kill level 50 Mortis with the same gear below level 50. You can do it ... but in order to have efficient farm you will have to wait until you get new good gear upgraded to level 55 or below.

    You seem to forget ... it was the same story when we leveled up from level 40 to level 45.

    I will remind you.

     
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  11. Shiladitya

    Shiladitya Padavan


    I tried herald hard to find out whether I really did get weaker than before 155 after this release. I am on 2h. I am not sure abt the mechanics but with green at lvl45 even if i took heralds damage(both fire and physical) head on there was no chance for me to die, because heralds attacks simply did not do that much damage on me and whatever little it did i could regen with mighty wild swing, i didn't need the free pots.

    So after 155 I tried with green, being level 50 with most items lvl48-49-52 and there was a chance for me to die if i didn't take action, maybe mighty wild swing because of crit nerf wasnt regenerating enuf hp, but more than that the fire damage of herald was doing more damage than before. and before my resist was 1200 and now its close to 1700 all.

    So I am not sure, maybe I am just hallucinating.
     
  12. hempthegreen

    hempthegreen Advanced

    Dam well said, Best comment on the whole thread! real talk i hope someone from the "team" seeing this lmao .
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2015
  13. Mario_Boss

    Mario_Boss Regular

    I agree Trak but i trie first day mortis 45 with my old gear... nothing, couldn't kill first form. *BAM* NO HP REGENERATION....
    *BAM* NO PASIVE RAGE BUILD....
    *BAM* NO CRITICAL HIT RATE....
    *BAM* 10% SPEED NERF FOR SAME DMG....

    you can see now that it isn't problem in gear lvl, char lvl or any other lvl PROBLEM IS IN !!!***NEW***!!! SKIL, KNOW AND FAME TREE.

    If i were dev leader or who ever is responsible for this r I would take pile of ash and throw it on myself...
    Just upload r154 again and run it while you figure out how to put lvl 50 skil, know, fame in it (in r154)

    Better late than never
     
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  14. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Forum Greenhorn

    I dont think Bg something change, but i gave yes
     
  15. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    how u can give something 2 a character class(DK) and then decide to take skills away mainly because of the other classes crying about it really sad-the other classes have been whining like school girls about the fact that DKs are(OP) give me a f-ing break-they are up close and personal knights that take alot of damage so they need hp regeneration :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2015
  16. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    They gave archers the armor break, and probably even too much of an armor break, insane skill - much more they could have asked for (lots were asking about bird doing that). That took them 3 years of crying, however) so yes, it's all about crying)))
     
  17. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    This is interesting
     
  18. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Crying?
    I don't think so.
    It was only logical thing to do ... since all the other classes already had armor breaking skill. So the ranger was left alone.
     
  19. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    Believe me or not, I was promoting an armor break for the archers. But here is a thing, if you take 1v1 Ranger vs Mage, ranger is now with an armor break, mage is without. Singu is useless or close to useless against an archer, explosive shot is just a simple ranged attack. Imagine mages had an armor break on the fireballs, ice or magic missiles...

    The other thing is an explosion right after the AB, which deals tons of damage, especially in current reality of damage numbers. And finally, archer is a burst champion of all, so, again, in current reality it is an OP skill. The best skill of all across the classes. I would love to see that moved to the bird.
    And one more finally, it also fits the hit&run culture of an archer way too well.

    As for the PVE, archer is now a champion of solo-knights run as well. Wouldn't you agree? You told it is a best of the armor breaks across the classes, didn't you? :)

    To be honest, since PVP is broken in many respects, I don't really care that much anymore. It will not get balanced again anytime soon, so who cares about just another balancing issue.

    Perhaps I should have started an archer by now, like archers like to say in reply to similar posts. Such a reply is just an ignorance though, since if you invested lots of time and-or money into one class, starting another isnt really an option.

    Edit. And I have put smiles on the 'crying', perhaps I should have wrote it in brackets. Of course I meant 'rising, explaining the issue as much as possible so it is noticed by the devs'. I'm happy you've got the AB.
     
  20. fab

    fab Advanced


    This is what we called a RUINED DK, after released 155:p:p:p
     
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