CotBK - Return of Dragan (June 2016)

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  1. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    so a SM will be able to sustain 64000+ damage per second and its the Rangers bow that will get nerfed!! again will make playing a ranger even more pointless
     
  2. UndergroundKiller

    UndergroundKiller Forum Expert

    Look "ask Cms" 3D, there is already a player complaining about this bow... as it will be a gift from the sky, dropped with 100% chance, and if all rangers have shopped like the first 1000 per server... so pathetic
     
  3. ekant1992

    ekant1992 Padavan

    What does SM do with attack speed? the turrets have fixed attack speed right?
     
  4. bezryl

    bezryl Active Author

    what does dwarf do with attack speed:

    it is needed for quick shot(with the talent) to regen steam to use your turrets since steam regens really slow, this is needed even more so for dwarfs that use 3 turrets at a time

    the dmg your turret does is based some on your attack speed, higher speed= bit more dmg
     
  5. MegaNuker

    MegaNuker Forum Ambassador

    The bow for ranger is 2hand you can not use a quiver or buckler correct...
     
  6. ekant1992

    ekant1992 Padavan

    2Handed !! really? wow.
     
  7. taketh

    taketh Regular

    Attack speed for all classes is important, but for the dwarf, it is a direct mutiplier for the machine gun, which is the strongest turret. Only tesla is fixed.

    If the set used the belt or even helmet isntead of the gloves it would be a good damage set. Would still preffer the old set because it gave both damage and defense.
     
  8. MANOJ

    MANOJ Forum Pro

    No. The FB photo about the weapon design read it as a 2H bow (credits to the designer who probably has no clue about the game)
    I checked the Bow on the german forum and it reads "Main Hand, Longbow"(in german of course) just like every other Longbow in game.
    That's why the talk on nerf is doing rounds here and everywhere else because it is OP for a 1 handed weapon.

    Well as a Ranger myself, I think that bow is OP but I don't want them to ruin it down to crappy stats while they nerf it.
    Am happy if the final stats are better than the Bearach bow.

    Or am I victim of DSO's constant neglect, not letting Rangers to even imagine to be an equal class par with rest of them :oops:
     
  9. -Marcus-

    -Marcus- Forum Apprentice

    Hi, to craft ring rank 3 need 16 rings, I see only 2 rings in mini-challenges and that's all.
    Where we get other 14 rings for craft?
     
  10. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    You must have missed my point. Even if you go with the new set over the old set as opposed to combining the gloves with the old set, that "10%" would be worth hundreds of damage, and most SMs ignore defense anyway. Also, attack speed is mostly irreverent when you are playing pure DPS with turrets, so the speed you'd get from gems in a decoration would be more than enough.
    If you play for a pure DPS dwarf, you don't use quick shot... you won't have time because you will be so busy jugling turrets. It looks something like this:

    With the Warlord set and the Steam skill, you have a minimum of 155 steam.

    Start with Shrapnel Shot. It doesn't cost steam and is a good DPS skill.

    Use a tactical turret with steam regen. This drops you to 100 steam.

    Next, use a Machine Gun. Wait about a second before doing so because this helps space out the dismantling times and makes this easier to keep up. By now, the first bomb from your tactical turret has hit you and given back 31 steam, so you have a total of 81 steam.

    Next, use another tactical turret. Again wait about a second to space it out. This should leave you with 31 steam, but the next bomb should hit any second, so you will be back up to 62. Also, if you factor in the natural regen of steam over time (about 2.5 per second), you are probably up to about 70, so going with that, you have enough for your next turret.

    Dropping another Machine Gun drops you down to 20, but then you should be getting hit by the second bomb from the first turret and the first bomb from the second turret. That gives you 60 back and puts you at 80 which is another turret.

    Now it is time to drop a Tesla turret. This drops you to 30. By now, you should be at about 7-8 seconds into this combo meaning that the first tactical turret should be hitting you again any second. Factor that and the regen in and you should be able to get one more turret...

    So, drop a mechanical turret off to work on the cool down for your shrapnel shot (with the cool down skill). By now, the 10 second timer on the tactical turret should be just about over and you need to start all over.

    Because of the 30 steam that you get back from every dismantled turret, you can keep this up indefinitely and eventually, you may even be able to get off two mechanical turrets. So, you see, there simply isn't time to be using quick shot if you want the most DPS possible in a 10 second window.

    Been there, addressed that...
     
  11. taketh

    taketh Regular

    @_Baragain_ We will have to pull up a calculator to see whether 10% increased weapon damage is more valuable than 20% attack speed gloves? im currently on 27 since i got lucky in a craft. Attack speed is a direct multiplier, you use it twice in your machine guns, and also when you are doing primary fire, which would be doing much more of if you werent using tactical turrets.
     
  12. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    No one said you should obtain them in a single event.
    They probably want you to play more than just a one event in order to craft that ring.
     
  13. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I'd have to do the math to see what impact attack speed has on the total damage of MGs.
     
  14. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

  15. .proba.

    .proba. Forum Apprentice

    Setting for mobs are way off. In Julov Lab minis are too hard and make to much dmg. Even fireball can make 3-3,5k dmg to solid player.... thats not good.

    Drop rate are too low. Some 10-12 rounds (mix lvl1 and lvl2) and I get only 1 gloves and 1 helmet... now do the math :(.
     
  16. femashep

    femashep Forum Greenhorn

    I like the design and stats of the new longbow, but yeah, I expect it to get nerfed. I still look forward to looking cool with it.
     
  17. UndergroundKiller

    UndergroundKiller Forum Expert

    I really really hope that people are happy now...
    When they want <<hey, wait, you need to consider that not everyone shops or has good equipment and efforts to do that "x" thing>>

    But, for a Long Bow (that can't have same damge bonus as a 2handed, but it can have same attack speed and also less crit rate) that none knows how is the drop rate of pieces to craft it, everybody got angry...


    Every class one-shot in arena, so why just that longbow need to be nerfed? Why i cannot see anymore "1 slot ranger"? why i have to beg people to get invited?




    Even in a game, people cry against fairness... as I already said, so pathetic
     
  18. taketh

    taketh Regular

    @_Baragain_ Try experimenting with gorga hard, counting how many total machine guns it takes to kill him. Maybe you have a range of 2h weapons to experiment with. Use wisdom to edit your attack speed.
     
  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    OK ... another low move from the dev team.
    I don't mind getting white gear when playing easy mode ... but getting white gear in painful and especially in excruciating mode is INTOLERABLE!
    70% of the drops are white items.
    So why are the players spending resources (andermant. spirit stones essences ... etc)? Just to get white items?
     
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  20. bloodyneo

    bloodyneo Forum Master

    it will be nerfed....because rangers not allowed to have that bow...maybe rangers in a different game will have that bow..i guess its time for rangers to start looking for that bow
     
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