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  1. taketh

    taketh Regular

    @Dragenstein I strongly disagree with what you just wrote. Why do you care if somebody else also gets the warlord set? Last fall, the warlord set was EASY to get. If you couldnt kill fatal mode, there was the option to do it in normal mode. A drop garunteed each time. This time round its ridiculous. Almost nobody has 14400-17200 drakens lying around. Maybe just veteran players. This number is pratically impossible to farm if you are a lvl 50 noob given how hard the event was.

    People NEED the warlord set to play the game. Its very difficult to tank without it. A fair number of players didnt even manage to get the warlord set last time, but im glad they make you feel special.

    How much draken did you farm during this event, and could you have got the gears and draken that you now have if you never had the warlord set?
     
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  2. taketh

    taketh Regular

    Hi Haruki,

    I have said this before, but i hope you don't nerf the dwarf, rather buff everyone else instead, having two different values for PVE and PVP. The community road map has not been updated in a while, so this nerf could happen at any release, and there would be no room for debate (not like our approval changes BP decions). Since we dont get a headsup, if its a major change, we wont have the time to adjust to the nerf by getting out gears ready. Is it fair that players spend a long time making a certain setup and then the nerf comes, making gear useless?

    It makes no sense for players to ask for the dwarf nerf. If they get what they want, then the game will be unplayable for everyone. Would that make them happy? That we are all spamming region chat asking for a strong dk or mage to solo bosses for us?

    The people complaining should be appeased in another way: grouping.
    • Decrease the group health multiplier so that the monsters health in a group of 5 is 400% not 500%.
    • Get rid of the exp split in a group so that a group of five does not get 20% exp each.
    • Give a loot bonus so that there is a reason to play in big groups.
    • Increase group size to 10.
    To help rangers even further, there could be a "fellowship" loot bonus. Groups get bigger ander drops if they have a Gimli, Boromir, Legolas and a Gandalf in the group. I imagine the ranger might be requested for if this bonus existed. I guess the rogue would be a thieving hobits.

    Regarding the event, i consider myself an above average dwarf and found the difficulty pretty hard. If it is difficult for me, it must be impossible for the majority of players. Is this by design? Its a shame that this is the direction that BP is going. Would have liked the game to be all inclusive but nope. "Hey, do you want to play DSO with me? Just know that you have to play a ridiculous amount of time before you are able to be in the same map as me, and years before you arent a leech to my group". I guess players could play with the friends from lvl 1.

    Thanks
     
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  3. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    Speaking of that. A year ago, BP said that they would probably add a bonus to grouping, which would consist of an augmentation of the number of mobs in a map.

    ...
    ...

    We're still waiting
     
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  4. Hawkslayer

    Hawkslayer Junior Expert

    I wouldn't go as far as to say the last warlord set was "easy" to get. I had to do >150 runs to get it.
    However, I do agree that compaired to what we have now, the previous would appear easier.
     
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  5. Kukisek

    Kukisek Someday Author

    Hello Haruki :)
    At first Im sorry if it was already written before but i havent seen it.
    I would like to ask about compensation for players who suffer from screen bug since R164? R164 was 9.5.2016, that is 52 days if my calculations are right. We couldnt play 5 events, lost thousands of andermants, milions of glyphs we couldnt farm and much more.
    At General Terms & Conditions is written this:
    ,,Bigpoint guarantees that its Games and Services will be available 90% (ninety percent) of the time on a yearly average."
    Well 52 days from 365 is +/-14%, also if we count all problems they had since new year, we would maybe get even on 20%, im not very experienced in this stuff, but havent BP broke their own Terms & Conditions? How do they plan to solve this problem?
    Thanks for reply :)
     
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  6. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    Quoting an old post of mine for this one:

    I asked this later:

    The reply was this:

    So there you go, apparently we all had our "compensation" already.
     
  7. taketh

    taketh Regular

    @Dragenstein I am frustrated because i disagree with BPs decision to make the warlord set much harder to obtain than it is now. It was easy to get compared to how it is get now. If you had to farm the 17200 draken during this event would you then say it is easier to obtain now?

    Lets say you had to farm this much draken to be ready in september.'s dragan event The amount of time it would take to farm all the realm frags and the amount of new moon runs it would take is crazy.

    BP have made their decision, and they will use whatever feedback they get to feel good about it. If 90% of the players thinks the event was a failure, they would say "well 10% like it".

    Thanks for the reply :)
     
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  8. CM Haruki

    CM Haruki Community Team Team Drakensang Online

    Hey there community of awesomeness,

    hopefully this time we won't be molested by any echoes during Twitch.
    I've been knocking on wood for the whole day - so we are all covered. Anyway, here we go with some answers to your questions:


    Hey there mister,

    + Obsidian Wings - yes, they are gone currently from Gnob but they are not gone for good. They will return to Gnob's own casino at Kingshill, sure. *Gasps* That plan does not fall on my community manager table so I cannot tell you exactly when that will be. But you should be seeing them there sooner or later.
    + Lore questions - those are very very interesting ones and I am sure our narrative design department will be more than happy to provide some answers. Their eyes glitter in joy whenever we approach them with lore inquiries. At the moment they are more centered in helping with event creations and all the lore pertaining to those seasonal happenings... However I am packing all those questions and sending them over for proper answers.

    Stay tuned 'cos I'll drop them over in one of my nexts posts. Thanks for the patience! :D


    Nah, it was just a way of speaking. He's rather shy and he has no wish to have his name publicly exposed here - which I have to respect. Therefore, Programmer X. But we can call him Mr Brown, if it makes you smile.

    You can totally mention in the chat, to a moderate extent, the Brown Screen of Death issue. We definitely want to fix that and the Customer Support folks have been rather quick in sending us all the logs, which have helped enormously. Hang on in there!


    Totally.


    I would not call the Compendium "useless" exactly.
    I guess it depends on the level of personal interest that goes into the lore. ^^

    We do not need a new Facebook profile anyway, we'll select tomorrow the winners of the creative event and make them shine.

    Hey there,

    yeah, "busted" indeed! From the very beginning Nefertari was planned as the descendant but the Lor'Tac expansion came and that chapter was kinda rewritten and made her the first woman. The canon lore established Nefertari as that first woman indeed although that particular quest still tells the prior story.

    These minor changes to the lore happen from time to time, not only for DSO. If you have played Mass Effect then you'll know that the shape and characteristics of a race called the Protheans was later on changed completely for the third game because... well, it suited them even more. ^^ (I prefer the second version of the Protheans, tbh).


    Well, hopefully that's fixed for you. For the future and whenever you have a problem, please send a ticket to our Customer Support team. Thanks!


    Hey there,

    well, the team won't extend the event longer and into July BUT we got the second challenged extended: at least we got something! On the other hand, we'll definitely do a iteration meeting with the team. Some bugs need to be addressed and maybe we can get some tweaks to the event done before it launches again in a few months.


    You, Sir, got a glance of profound disapproval from this noob.


    The practice of getting something later on by other means is something that happens generally in other games and in real life as well - nothing you or I can do against it (I'd pull out a number of Steam examples...). You should not consider that it diminished the effort put there - after all, getting the whole set now also entails some level of Draken dedication.

    We included a number of changes to the early steps of the game in order to improve that early gaming experience and make the loop into the core game more interesting for a new player. That's true. We'll be dropping some community questions to Verena so stay tuned for her comments on the current state of the game and the future we are contemplating.


    Hey there mister,

    I'd not say that nerfing this or that class is just the basic solution to a problem experienced by another. Imo, that "quick fix" only adds more levels of complicated interrelation to the characters and it's prone to keep on adding more and quick fixes to fix the previous quick fixed. Bleh.

    I've commented a lot of times that the issue of "balancing" -that broad term- is on the designers' tables already. Your comment basically pinpoints into the issue here: it's complicated to tackle this topic and it requires some level of preparation. Since our designers are also busy every week with other designs that will get released in the upcoming weeks, you have to understand that this situation will take a tad longer. We do not want to rush any "quick fix" right out of the blue. But we are on it.

    There are some group improvements in the pipeline for the near future so we also expect to make grouping a little bit more appealing, all aspects considered. As for the difficulty of the event: yep, this was intended, per design. As I've also commented, we will hold a meeting with the team in which we'll go through all the pain points risen by the community. Our admins are doing an awesome job in helping us filtering and gathering those major points of complain; some are evident, others are less loud but equally important (such as the difficulty feeling). Again, it's hard to find the perfect formula for all the parts involved.

    But we should totally find balance there.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    And this will be all for today. See you tomorrow for some more answers!

    Kind regards,
    Haruki
     
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  9. iNeXoRaBlE

    iNeXoRaBlE Forum Great Master

    Yeah totally, that made me smile :D Show him my Sig he will love it :p Well i guess we will see when the new Rel goes live, i will make him a new sig.. Tell Mr. Brown to change his nametag there at the headquarters :p
     
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  10. wangwang

    wangwang Active Author

    8 days without a single boot,is that normal?
    Throughout the entire event, i ve farm 16000 draken and still need 9 boot to complete the 2h set,it is outrageous:mad:
    The last boot i got was 8 days ago,now i just hope i get another one to craft a lvl2 boot so i can save 2 inventory:confused:
     
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  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is "perfectly normal" for this game.
    I made hundreds of kills both on Dragan and the spider ... now I have 2 pages of items that I need to keep for 4-5 months ... and not a single tier 3 item.
    I was helping -Faeriequeen22- killing the spider 10 times ... she got the mount ... i left sucking my thumb. :eek:
     
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  12. CM Haruki

    CM Haruki Community Team Team Drakensang Online

    Hey there community of awesomeness,

    We are heading into the weekend but let's get some answers before, shall we?


    Hey there,

    as we mentioned in our latest Twitch session, there are some group improvements to be made for the next releases (we do not know exactly in which one these will happen). I am unsure as to whether that probability of adding number of mobs in a map stands still... - but they are reviewing the grouping system, yep.


    Also, it has more pieces so it really takes a little bit more of time to complete... But, on the other hand, the event is coming more often than before and we'll send the feedback of the community to the designers for future consideration.


    Hey there,

    We have not talked yet about Compensations since the problem is still there. In this way, I really cannot give you any details because we're focusing at the moment in fixing this issue for all affected players. Once this gets solved, we'll be able to talk further.

    -----------------------------------------------------

    Jumping in next week to keep the answers flowing.
    Have an amazing weekend everyone!

    Kind regards,
    Haruki
     
  13. Hyean

    Hyean Forum Apprentice

    Hi there! I just need to make some things clear. What's going on with drop rate from Parallel world's bosses? I've heard some rumours that drop is constantly blocked for certain players so it's almost impossible to get unique items (3rd tier). It seems weird since I do have Arachna's necklace. Is there something wrong with the drop or it's just the imagination of unlucky players? Are any changes concerning drop issue planned? I'd be glad if you could clarify this.
     
  14. wangwang

    wangwang Active Author

    Then i guess i was a bit more lucky than you, i ve got at least 3 lvl3 helmets and gloves if i didn't melt those extra ones............but 7boots?
     
  15. taketh

    taketh Regular

    Hi Haruki,

    I watched the latest twitch and was disappointed about how you dealt with the feedback for dragan. You said something along the lines of "yes its hard, but dont worry, the event will come around next time, and more frequently, so maybe if you try hard enough you can complete it in a year". It's a shame to hear you say that, I was lead to believe that you were arguing on behalf of the players, but i feel like BP selects the feedback they want to hear to justify whatever crap they produce.

    I don't think its fair that players who have been playing responsibly, the odd 1 or 2 hours a day, buying premium for months, have 0 chance of getting gear that most players got easily in comparison to this event.

    The event is too hard for most players, only strong players can get the gear, who dont even need the gear. The players that need the items are pretty much screwed.

    If the plan is to actually expect players to farm 17200 draken during the dragan events, which is only possible for a select few, what is the point of the other events in which players slave away to earn 350 drakens?

    The last event, i helped over 5 people getting the dragan set. I was barely able to help 1 person this time around, pumping lots of red essence, spamming health potions, and spending thousands of ander on spirit stones, which is crazy considering im a lot stronger now. Repeating the same event often isnt going to help them.

    I hope things change but i now know providing feedback to you guys is pointless.

    Thanks.
     
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  16. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    For what its worth, I thought the event had a lot to offer especially if it will be coming around frequently, such as more than 3 times a year. If you looked past the low drop rates for the two new dragan/spider bost sets and the 2H weapon the rewards were much better than usual. Level 2/3 dragan farming offers quite useful resource rewardssuch as large amounts of drakens, as did ravencaw difficult for gear, gems, and anders. In my mind, the efficiency was in farming those 2 portions of the event for drakens, anders, gems and gear that can be crafted, melted or sold.

    I probably accumulated 3000 drakens and 7000-10000 anders playing the event between my 2 characters. I also obtained quite a bit of resources for crafting, and was able to get a 18.7% (2x, both gold lines) increased damage%- 630 (2x hp) torso for my mech and a 890 crit (4x crit, 2 gold lines) adornment for my dk from extraordinary items (they'll eventually become pieces for future crafts). If this event comes around 4 times a year, I will be getting about 6k in drakens per character per year that will most likely get banked for level expansions, as well as a few more resources for gear crafting down the line.
     
  17. Troneck86

    Troneck86 Forum Great Master

    You basically just posted answers with no answers entirely. Tough gig.

    I see that you are releasing r168 on Monday. Does that mean your team fixed the long loading when you open the quest log that trakilaki pointed out? I like being proven wrong, but I am certain that they did not and another "hotfix" will come afterward when there is enough complaints flooding the Support System/Forums. Poor volunteers, they don't deserve this.
     
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  18. taketh

    taketh Regular

    @Novadude With all due respect, BP uses posts like yours to carry on with the direction they are going, screwing the players that actually need the old warlord set.

    Are you a tank that has the old warlord set already? Will you actually use any of the two sets when and if you get them after a year?

    It is a joke. Asking players who have already waited long enough to try harder. You farmed 3k drakens, and i imagine you arent a noob. That is 6 events. If the event comes every 3 months, which it wont, it will take over 1.5 years. Tanking is impossible without the old warlord set.

    I have noticed how difficult it is to find a tank in the game, because players eventually leave the game, getting bored and moving on. The players that leave wont get replaced with new players since they cant tank. They are forced to tank mode 1 and 2 of the pw runs. I wonder if they are happy playing or are fooling themselves into thinking if they do enough runs they can start tanking fatal runs.

    A tank is needed to play the game. No tanks available, then its just boring grinding that can be done solo. Not many players choose to play the tank, and BP wants to make it even harder by limiting the gears they need. I dont see strong players choosing to do mode 2 because they cant find a tank. I see it as the end of the game, no tanks, no groups, not worth playing.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2016
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  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    During the crafting I lost gloves with 10,00%, 9.9% and 9.1% attack speed ... because the game went down for a fraction of the second. :mad:
    Then automatically crafted me a leg. gloves with BS stats .... .... .... :mad:
     
  20. hellfury

    hellfury Forum Greenhorn

    does anyone know where to get rest of the unique tactical set ? I have found the weapon and belt at the artifact mechant in Andrakasch but the armor there is for the tempered set.
     
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