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  1. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    It's time to ask it again, I suppose...

    Has anyone seen that raptor recently? I'm talking about the one in Lor'Tac which is related to the Hidden Achievement (Heroic Deeds)

    You keep telling us it's not bugged or whatsoever... However, I have only seen 1 video of it, and don't know anyone who has actually completed it.

    I think something fishy is going on... Not quite sure.
    Many people are interested in the achievement system and wish to get all achievements. I am one of those, and I'm just trying my luck here.

    Are you sure there's nothing buggy about that system? I could ask for a hint... but wouldn't get it anyway :D

    Have a nice day
     
  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Chances to get that raptor in your map are equal to the chance of hitting your pet by accident ... while fighting other monsters :D
     
  3. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    I expected no less xD

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    Something completely different right now:

    I have to talk a bit about the PW boss loot (fatal mode).

    So far I've done thousands and thousands of runs, hoping to complete a PW set, logically. However, the game doesn't really like me. After a lot of boss farm in which I usually don't get anything good, the same thing keeps happening. I keep getting the same unique(s) that I already have. Now, this is normal. It makes sense that games such as these can annoy you a bit by giving you the items you already have... but there's a limit.

    I don't want to talk about the weird drop-rate system (yes it's extremely weird and random IMO), I just want to think of possible solutions or ways to improve this...

    In my road to obtain Heredur's Orb and Grimmag's set, this is what happened... just what the actual .... is this:

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    Should I be happy about this?
    - Yes and no, it's nice to get unique items and sets, but it's extremely frustrating to get the same uniques over and over (and yes, Grimmag has also given me a pair of Roshan boots.... TWICE)

    When I got the 3rd decoration (ornament) from Grimmag this morning, I felt the urge of writing something about it on the forum.


    Let me get to the point of this post:

    Many people cannot get what they are looking for after a while and after big effort. In my opinion, effort should be rewarded and therefore I'm looking for solutions.

    Let's have a look at my case: 3x Grimmag's Ornament, 3x Heredur's Helmet

    The game must already hate me quite a lot to give both of them thrice without giving me the other item that is connected to the set.
    In my case (and it's not because I'm selfish or whatever :p I'm just trying to make a statement starting from a clear example) I would suggest something like this:

    * Give the players an option (feature) to exchange 2/3 pieces of equipment that are exactly the same (so basically 2-3x the same items) and get the other part in return. Because I'm scared that I'm not clear enough, I'll clarify it: Once again, in my case: I could exchange 2-3 grimmag ornaments in order to get the boots.

    Is this a fair trade?
    - Yes, I do not see why it would not be. There's no point in getting the same item thrice or even more than three times. This way, these players will also be rewarded for the effort they have given and get the chance to get their desired item.

    * Another option (this one is quite popular in MMORPG games, and was also suggested quite often on the forum): Introduce a "token-system" that basically gives the players a token/something similar after every boss kill. By doing so, the player gets a guaranteed chance to get the item after a certain amount of runs (of course, you can be lucky and get it earlier :p)

    That'll be everything for now, I'm out of ideas.

    If anyone has further options/ideas or simply feels like responding to my post, then please go ahead. I would really like this basic idea to be developed and rated.

    Have a great day!
     
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  4. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Agreed, and it has been suggested before and ignored. Interestingly enough, this is exactly what they are doing with the reworked new moon event (and sort of similar in the Defend events), and I approve of that decision 100%. Hopefully, with a little time, they'll spread that system to other areas of the game. Maybe they have heard our complaints and realized that we don't appreciate randomness when their PRNG is so obviously broken. Applying this to bosses or other events, like Dragan or the full moon or other unnamed events in the future would make quite a lot of people happy.
     
  5. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    I bet you got thrice that quantity in uncra..., I mean, untouchable's items. :p

    Joke aside, I agree with you, the "Token" system was discussed by Greg in a Twitch stream last year (maybe even before this reworked PW existed), as a proposal of course, but apparently it died as that, a proposal.

    Now, looking at the bright side, as @_Baragain_ said, this very system is being applied to a *truly* reworked moon events, and I like the concept so far, even if it's a bit of a grind, it's worth it because you know the rewards will be achieved by the end of it, unlike the uncertainty we have when grinding PW bosses, I've been hunting Grimmag fatal with my couple for months, without results.

    An exchange system doesn't look so appealing to someone like me, who generally gets no unique drops whatsoever, though it could have been useful when the game dropped me a total of 7 Roshan belts, 4 Roshan boots and no gloves, until I got the gloves during the Hogni's mine challenge.

    This also tells you how the odds are "rigged" to a certain degree, there's a handful of other world uniques (looking at you, Scorn of the Dragon...) that are becoming myths because the odds of them dropping are just ridiculously low. Some people would say "I don't care, they're useless", but there are people out there that aren't high end game players or very unlucky that might have a temporary use for them, or, simply achievement hunters that would like to complete their Corruption/Temple Guardian ones, even if they're destined for melting afterwards.

    I pray to Agathon you're proven right sometime soon, hell, I'd even make a shrine for The Dragon too if they do. :p
     
  6. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    It is not a bug.
    The fireball creates a burning zone that works in a weird way : you'll continue burning if you don't exit that zone, even if you use jump/adrenaline, but if you move away, use a liberation skill and re-enter the zone by accident you'll not burn again. So you must first go away from the impact zone, then use your liberation skill to cancel the burning effect. This is mandatory for all 4 classes.
     
  7. Opalsion

    Opalsion Junior Expert

    Nope, sorry I'll have to disagree. I've been playing arena for many years and I noticed that "fireball effect" after a certain release. I've also seen few other players complaining about this after a point so I don't believe it's something that was just decided out of sudden.
     
  8. Zed

    Zed Forum Pro

    After R155. Precisely.
     
  9. Stendarr

    Stendarr Forum Apprentice

    Just one really serious question how is possible to get 2x predator in one day, when is the droprate "REALY RANDOM" ? you kidding me? i play this game almost for 5years, i didnt count how much i farmed khalys and how much i farmed mortis before paralel worlds ... after what pw came i gave up my ranger in 6months cos i was 0/8 from uniqs and about predator i dont really can normally talk.. then i started play mage which i play about 6months .. i literally rape pw bosses and still 0/8 ? and droprate is random ? can i know how much money i have spend to this game or which ass i have lick for get some from these uniques or how much years i have spend here? Honestly i never wrote on forum these such question or things.. cos im too much old player for know that your answers will useless or i will get ban or u will edit my post .. cos in that game no works freedom for words .. its better for you ignore players as i am and think about which kind of new useless mount u will add .. I hope u feel nice when u are able to make disgust play this game for player who were always loyal and regulary pay this game.

    Already thanks for edit my post or getting ban ..
     
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  10. -Soifon.

    -Soifon. Forum Apprentice

    so i havent played in some months and i watched your twitch videos and i saw u said that when the deluxe was added the premium was gonna be cheaper , so i went and checked it out cuz i wanted to come back and play again , what did i saw , from 5 euros a month it went to 7.49 , so yeah its "cheaper" . seriously thats what u guys do to keep your players ?
     
  11. -SirMadMan-

    -SirMadMan- Someday Author

    What is "really random" anywhere in life?
    And, it's a little hard to follow your post, but are you actually moaning because you got two unique bows? Seriously? Alright, the Pred bow - like alll old uniques - is pretty crappy compared to a good legendary now, but at least you can melt them. So why the rant?
    You "literally raped" PW bosses? I sure hope you wore protection - especially when you got jiggy with the Arachnia.
    And don't you be going and licking my donkey. Stick to the toads.
     
  12. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    It's simple, someone else got 2 Predators in 1 hour :p Of course the drop rates are equal and normal. What a joke :p

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    I can tell from my own experience, just like her experience... Since the new Parallel Worlds came out, we have both been grinding and grinding and grinding... But there's no point. When I see people getting sets in 100 or less runs, I almost choke on my food. :p And yes, there are many, oh so many players. And as the admins denied (of course, why would they tell me I'm correct? xD), the droprates surely do not depend on the playing time of a char!! That's why all new players get everything 10x faster than old players, very logical indeed :p

    Since that one day, I have been farming those bosses. And today, I'm still sitting here without any completed set. That must simply be a joke...

    When I see people with 6 Heredur shields and 0 helmets, should I think that's normal? The drop rate system is simply a joke and almost everyone knows that :p

    Up to this day, I'm still farming. But why should I? There is no guarantee for me to get what I want, not even after nearly 8 months. The drop rate system is something that has to be looked at... urgently. Not just that, there should also be other ways to reach items, like my idea(s) in my previous post. There's no point at getting the same PW unique more than once, so why not offer the chance to exchange them?


    Well, let's expect the mods to tell me once again that drop rates are normal and equal :D And then let me laugh once more, because I know that's a simple lie. Let's expect my post to be edited again, for no reason :p And last but not least, let's expect Dylannn to get another lovely forum ban ;).

    Cheers
     
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  13. Stendarr

    Stendarr Forum Apprentice

    Oh guy where i said i got them ? learn read then try write smtng again ;)
     
  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Really? You went there? Your post is barely readable and then you complain at SMM because it was damn near impossible to figure out what you were trying to say. Try learning to write first.
     
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  15. Stendarr

    Stendarr Forum Apprentice

    Well that group is named "Ask the CMs in English", no debate about what i wrote and if you understood it .. i gave some questions - i wanna know answers, thats all. Dont wanna be harsh but you are not looking like Haruki ;)
     
  16. Walt

    Walt Forum Greenhorn


    who EDIT are you to even "answer" on that post? are you one of the CM's? keep your fingers under control, no one asked you to put your nose into this like some EDIT expert, stay in your hole and don't crawl out of there to write some useless crap.
     
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  17. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Guest

    Drop rates are normal and equal.
    No action taken.
    It was our fault, we shall take the spirit dispenser to a safer place. ;)

    Cheers.
     
  18. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    Legit. :D

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    That is why I get 3/5 of those without the corresponding one. I totally get it now :D
     
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  19. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    Poke the programmers again and get them to kill the damn inventory sort button. Just lost 15 minutes of game time because of this ill-advised bugfeature.
     
  20. SillySword

    SillySword Regular

    Well, inventory sorting is not good for me. The reason is I can put all items in each row, column, tab and connecting cells by any meaning I like to keep. For example, I can use potion or buff quickly in the left-top cell in first tab. I put crafting items in different column by type and color in second and third tabs, not to mention unique items, gem containers, all essence, event items in other tabs. I can have highly compressed 3-D information of inventory, thinking like a human.

    But the sorting function just give me an 1-D information in the long queue of inventory, thinking like an one-way-moving worm on a long stick. It breaks all information and has no meaning to me.

    Thanks and have a nice day.
     
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