Incongruent item stats text format style

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  1. ipodsie1

    ipodsie1 Forum Apprentice

    You assume that a sentence with a period at the end is the same as a tech note that does not require one. that is erronous. a full sentence does require a period and a tech note does not, both are displayed correctly, and that explains the issue with the purple boxes. The green boxes you take exception with the use of a coma over a period to denote decimal placing, again that is erronous as both are accepted as ligitimate especially when denoting to the hundredths or more(ie. thousandths or millionths etc etc) places. The red boxes you take exception to because it does not to your estimation denote proper usage of capitialization, well both forms are technically correct with the explanation that numbers can and should be accepted as a capitalization at the front of a sentence or tech note, in the cases where it does follow through you will note that it does so as a form of denotation ie Health Points (HP) this is being used as a form of denotation so it is technically correct, it is highlighting this as important or specified to be important(specifically it is naming that). You then have noted yellow, white and light blue boxes as spacing errors this is the only area that yes there is a grammer issue, mostly in the fact that the spacing is not carried through correctly or evenly to each of the spacings. in each either the tech note or the spacing after the colon either would or could have been accepteable if they were consistant, but they are not. This may or may not need more research though as i am not at all positive about spacing and iconography, Understand a colon is treated the same as a period so thus the double spacing in all but in front of the iconography, which i admit i do not know if this is acceptable or not. the space after the "+" symbol does not and should not be there agreed. This is true also for the space after the number followed thy the "%" symbol.
     
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  2. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    I have stayed out of this for the most part, but here is my short comment.

    1. There is internal consistency. That is to say that damage on an item is always represented by "+XX Damage" or crit always being represented by +XXX Critical Hit Rate" or special effects are always written in sentence form. They don't have dissimilar ways of writing the same thing.

    2. You are comparing apples and oranges in your colored box diagram and as much as I wish you all were smart enough to figure it out on your own, I'll explain it 5 year old style.
    • Purple: Periods- Periods are used to terminate sentences. Individual stats are not sentences, but the descriptions of special effects are. That is why they do have periods.
    • Red: Capitalization- The only one that you have a point on is Critical Damage and I would expect both of those words to be capitalized since it is a type of stat. In the case of "increased weapon damage", it is a mini statement and there is nothing special about "increased" that would warrant capitalization.
    • White: Spacing- What are you even complaining about here? They have the same spacing.
    • Blue: More Spacing- You are comparing spacing after a colon where two are icons and two are just numbers. That means that they are totally different and the ones with icons are self consistent and the ones going to numbers are also self consistent (see point 1 above).
    • Green/yellow: Decimals/Extended stats- As explained above, in other countries, a coma is used instead of a decimal point. The game is programmed in one such country, so it is no surprise. Assuming that you read that and your complaint is that related to the fact that the 75% is written as 75% and not 75,00%, this is simple. The first three are all related to a stat (Damage, crit damage, resistance) and the last one is related to a specific attack. Also, if you read attack descriptions, you fin that they use the same style as is present in that item description. You are again comparing apples and oranges.
    So, out of 6 colors and 30 boxes, only one color and one box indicates a viable complaint.
     
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  3. Wllf

    Wllf Advanced

    My point is, the only thing wrong with that picture is the boxes.
     
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  4. wenny0119

    wenny0119 Junior Expert

    So...in short,
    "increased damage" is a short description whereas "Damage" is a specific thing.

    What is the difference between say, +10,00% increased damage and +50 Damage? I kind of get it, but not totally?

    Secondly, what is the difference between base damage and weapon damage...? This is because there is a wisdom skill that increases weapon damage, which doesn't really make much of a difference.

    (Obviously I'm not into those kind of technicalities).
    Thanks.
     
  5. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    not that im meaning to chip in because im not really that bothered, but in relation to the 2 comments

    If you select English as the language for the game, you should get English. If you are going to correct the words the numbers should be correct also. Its not a hard thing to do, just laziness on the developers part.
     
  6. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    There are also many English speaking countries who use the comma. Really, it is just the US and the UK who use the decimal point.
     
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  7. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    International Organization for Standardization
    Which means agreed standard all around the world ... just like the metric system.
    Do you measure time in years or in winters/summers?
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2016
  8. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    im not talking about ISO 31-0 (which actually states that "the decimal sign is either the comma on the line or the point on the line") im talking about the English language. And here we use the point for decimal separator, not just in writing, but in scientific papers, maths, everywhere. more than half the worlds population use '.' for decimal separator. as such all localization libraries handle this. even the java ones do, the only place that it is not handled is when the people doing the translations get lazy and assume that everyone does it the way they do.

    metric system again is not used for everything. cars etc in the UK have speedometers that measure speed in miles per hour, signs in miles and miles per hour, on the continent its all in kilometres. must cost car manufacturers huge sums of money building cars that have different systems of measurement, different software, drive on different side of road etc, but they do it because that's what the country they selling into use.
     
  9. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You are confusing domestic and international.
    At home you can measure length in "cigarette"... if you like. For international use you are using metre.
    All British colonies and China ... but if you go that way everything used in China should be world's standard. But it is not.
     
  10. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    well when I play drakensang outside of my home country then I will not complain when they get the language wrong. while here though I will still ask the translation team to get it correct :)
     
  11. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    [QUOTE="tassadar1977, post: 656178, member: 12696"I will still ask the translation team to get it correct :)[/QUOTE]
    There is no translation error.
     
  12. tassadar1977

    tassadar1977 Forum Expert

    sorry, its been missed out when the rest was translated then
     
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