Suggestion Gifting, Trading, Auction House

I was recently offered the 3 day trial premium account and fell for it. I figured what the heck, it can't hurt. I then went and ran Varholm and happily gathed lots of equipment, got some neat gifts, opened some boxes and generally enjoyed being able to run around without worrying about space.

Then it expired.

At this moment, I'm trying to figure out how I can cram two pages of equipment and quest and event items into less than one page of space. Since I'm a free player with no money, I don't have the option or the andermant to open new space, and I'm being told when the trial expires, all my things will be pushed into the nonexistant space that I'll be left with... basically deleting it all.

A friend I got into the game offered to buy me some andermant... but there doesn't appear to be a way to do that. Neither can they trade me some, since you can't do that either. I'd be willing to offer up the things I'm soon to have no space for for auction to players with more room and progress in the event... but there's no auction house.

So... yeah. I'm screwed, and you the developers should consider adding these things to the game. I'm pretty depressed right now; I did some all night raiding on those events during the nighttime stages because I'm too new to know you guys had a whole section on the event in the forums here, so all that time was wasted. Guess I'll go do some normal quest or something and try not to pick up anything I can't sell...

 

Happened to me earlier, but dont worry about loosing stuff when inventory gets smaller. It ques up and you get it back when a free spot appears

 

No, no, and no to the ideas in your title. All of these have been discussed to death and they are all horrible ideas that would be exploited mercilessly. Here is some friendly advice that may not sound too friendly, but it is. You have showed up on the forums thinking that you have the answers to everything, but most of what you are saying is just a single forum search away and you will learn a lot in the process. Look up trading or auctions and you'll find lots of threads where the consequences of these ideas are fully flushed out.

 

How dare you ... speaking against trading!!!
It is very useful feature ... especially when you have so much exploiting options.

 

That was my feeling exactly... So I have not been too friendly in my replies. I'm not even bothering anymore...after I saw a thread titles "You guys need to relax your death grip on inventory slots." Most noobs just recognize they are noobs and don't try to change the game around them thinking it's the game's fault they are noobs.

 

No, no, no.

 

come on.. it is easy to discuss those dead discussed ideas again and again hehehehe

 

a huge part of this game is based on grinding. All these sugestions will skip the grind and bcz of that i doubt they implement something like that.

Perhaps gifting is possible.
It would be nice to gift costumes, mounts essences, potions spirit stones stuffs like that

 

I also don't want you to take this the wrong way, but my playing the game and getting various ideas for what I think might make the game better isn't me 'showing up and thinking I have the answer to everything'. I'm just makking suggestions based on what I think might improve the game. The fact that the first thing I did wasn't reading the entire forum and searching every suggestion I made before making a post is my fault I guess; I didn't realize how many people had been entrenched in the game or for how long, or I wouldn't have bothered even saying anything.

I've been getting a lot of flak from people who have multiple max level characters, and who appear to be comefortably sitting at the top, watching new people struggle with the things they're well used to while saying loudly how nothing should change. This doesn't seem to me so much like a good game design as it does a few people who think 'Change is Evil!' telling everyone else not to ask for anything new or it might upset the game they're so used to.

I'm not arguing if my ideas are horrible or not. And if you say so, with all those max level characters, I'm sure you know what you're talking about. But damn certain people are almost hunting me on the forums since I've started posting, just to tell me everything I am just asking about is horrible it seems. And the feeling is less 'this is something we talked about and decided it was a bad idea' than EDIT

It's alright though. I'm probably gonna do one or the other eventually.

Yeah! I was totally thinking exploits when I suggested this, and knew of SO many ways to do it too!

I kinda feel like you want to say 'no'... but I'm not sure why.

...because of course a new player is going to know all about discussions from long ago right after they join the game. I mean, really!

 

For example I played a very similar game for years and trading was simple and fun. The problem were only the "scammers" who would trick others into giving stuff... I've actually read, in several threads, how trading is never gonna be a feature of DSO, but never saw the actual discussions

 

Nope, but a new player can explore with the search function of the forums and learn tons.

Here is one from over a year and a half ago looking at auction/trade.

And here is the one that I referenced in that thread, and is is looking at "Gifting," and it dates back to December 2013.

Of course, there have been many others, and all the conversations end the same way; with the experienced players saying, "Thank god that BigPoint has stated that they have zero plans to develop trade/auction/gifting, because that would be an exploiter's dream." Then we all go our separate ways until the next noob shows up thinking that trade is a good idea. In the four years I've been on the current forums, and the previous forums, I have seen only a couple of trade related ideas that have any potential.

But, since you've already shown that you don't want to do the leg work, I'll summarize the important stuff (even though it is totally academic since BP will thankfully never make trade):

The two factors that are present in these few ideas that are plausible are that there has to be a way to not allow person to person trades, keeping things entirely anatomized. This could also include not posting items unless there are a certain amount in the system so avoid doing having an item be the only on fore sale. Second, the currency needs to be something that can not be bought outright (Andermant, or gold because it can come from gambling andermant) to avoid heavy P2P vs F2P imbalance in the system which leaves Draken, or some new currency that has a predictable drop rate that has more to do with time spent on the game and difficulty of the farmed area than money.

Finally, if BigPoint ever does introduce trade, that will be the sign that the game is dying and they are making one last desperate cash grab before the ship sinks. When that day comes, see if there are any loopholes that allow my to get real money out of the system (like happens in sooooo many other games with trade), get what I can and then leave.


So, now that I have educated you on the problem, feel free to propose your ideas of an exploit-proof trade system so that I can shoot it more full of holes than swiss cheese. These threads come up every six months or so hopefully this takes care of the next half a year of people with great ideas about how wonderful trade could be..

 

ANDERMANT ???
This is BS ! Whatever happened to buying with gold ? Maybe this game shouldn't be free.
Sorry, I won't be playing anymore !

 

maybe you will see trading system after all servers been empty from players and the game will be dead

 

Hey there heroes,

Unfortunately, trading option is a very requested feature, but it has never been accepted, as you can see all over the Twitch sessions.

We will report your wish anyhow, but you know that there is a reduced chance of that being implemented

Cheers,