Question about Behemoth skill

Today I try some combination and something is not right....

Without "Behemoth" skill I have base dmg 495-529 and speed 1,82 and with Behemoth skill I get base dmg 575-625 and speed 1,68? OK, its said "weapon demage" not all dmg but how can speed go from 1,82 to 1,68 because decrease of 10%?

 

That is not -10% ... but 10% of your overall attack speed.

 

In that case overall is 1,82 so it shoud be 0,18 difference not 0,14

 

You're probably doing the game math wrong. You probably have other sources of attack speed % (gloves, gems, set bonuses, etc) as well. So something like base speed * (attack speed% modifiers - 10%) is going on.

 

Don't forget the weapon attack speed.

 

If is just weapon speed in question than ok.... little rounded. Since weapon is 1,37 it is right to be rounded on 0,14. That means rangers dont have such use of that skill since thay dont have high dmg 2H weapon wich will benefit from that 50% increase.

 

But it can increase the dmg of a good longbow.

 

It is working this way:
- as long as your base attack speed is 1.00 you can only deduct -10% from the attack speed. Best way to test this is to remove your weapon that way you will have base attack speed 1.00. Same goes for a SW with wand that doesn't have weapon attack speed as a enchantment. For all the other weapons it is working differently since it calculates the attack speed bonus (multiplier )you are getting from the weapon's base attack speed and the weapon's attack speed enchantments.
- when using weapons with lower attack speed than 1.00 you are losing less than 10% attack speed when you select the Behemoth talent.
- when using weapons with attack speed higher than 1.00 you are losing more than 10% by selecting the Behemoth talent.
One example: short bows are having 1.05 base attack speed ... that means you are losing more than 10% attack speed at the very beginning. If your shortbow has weapon attack speed enchantments you are losing even more attack speed from your total attack speed. It is related with the attack sped formula ... you can search it here in the forum ... we have talked about it in different occasions.

 

Nope... you are still losing 10%. It is a matter of 10% of what, and how big is that 10%.

I think what you meant to say was:

"
- when using weapons with lower attack speed than 1.00 you are losing less than 0.10 attack speed when you select the Behemoth talent.
- when using weapons with attack speed higher than 1.00 you are losing more than 0.10 attack speed by selecting the Behemoth talent.
"

You always lose 10% of your attack speed, but the question is how big is that 10%. 10% of 0.83 is 0.083 attacks per second while 10% of 1.05 is 0.105 attacks per second. This effect is most detrimental to a 1H DK who loses 0.118 attacks per second when using this skill.

 

So what have I said?

In that reply I was just trying to simplify the things so they can understand ... and compared with situation when you would just add/subtract 10%. That is why I said they should see the attack speed formula .
You know sometimes you simply can't explain to people by using math ... because not everyone understand it.

 

There is nothing simpler by giving misleading information. 10% is 10% and saying that someone loses more than 10% or less than 10% based on the base attack speed just teaches newer players bad information. It is -10% (and it always is).

 

1. he is not a new player.
2. don't make things complicated ... the point was it is 10% of the overall speed but 10% of higher attack speed has higher value than 10% of lower attack speed