nerf down the rangers

after dk rangers are way too op in pvp, why is that? i mean they dont even have to shoot enemy to kill it , its enough that explosive arrow explose close by and puff you are dead, blade dance makes them immune to all of your attack, adrenaline and they run and dont forget the fact that they can use shield with 2hd,,, i thinks its about time that you guys tackle with biggest issue in the game and that is no balance in pvp

 

You could just use the 'search' feature and add that to one of the few thousand threads crying about rangers. That way, you're stronger together.

 

Everyone makes a post about ''nerf the ranger!'', ''...bug with the skills of the ranger!'', ''the ranger is op!'' and it goes on endlessly... Seriously people, stop crying about the rangers. They got nerfed multiple times, over and over - it's enough already!

Learn to play your chars properly, and accept the fact that "losing" is part of any game play. If, for whatever reason you can't do that, then you're doing it wrong.

 

Has it ever occurred to you that in the mean time rangers don't get invited for fatal groups they try to find ways to become stronger to prove something? Well, there you go The only reason nerfs are happening is because arena is well connected to any build and regular farm skills. So please, I'm not even sure if you are trolling at a time like this about another ranger nerf and instead try to make suggestions about new arena system.

 

Please don't. Just don't. DON"T EVEN ASK FOR A NERF ANYMORE. Being a ranger myself the chances of me being accepted into even a painful pw run is really low already...and as the others say, it's always us who gets nerfed, not the SMs with their turrets.

 

1)Longbows aren't two-handed weapons, in fact, they have lower damage than 2h staves, 2h guns and 2h maces. Also, a longbow have the SAME attack speed of a 2-handed weapon (except swords that are faster).


2)I can agree about the Explosive Arrows, but, Blade Dance doesn't make us immune, it simply put the character in another point of the map, so, to do damages you have to shot at that point.
Also, Adrenaline is a shame: if a ranger get hit by a Fireball (and he survives--> many mages do 8-12k with a Fireball) and he use the adrenaline without moving from the impact area, he will keep burning, even if it has the antistun etc talent.

 

Its not adrenaline that is a shame, its fireball which has to be changed back to the way it worked before r155. Mages cannot stop burn without moving too. Noone can. It makes zero sense, it is the player who is hit so he has to be burning, not the invisible area. No idea why did they change it with r155

 

the problem i have with them trying to balance rangers in PVP is that when they do it screw over PVE rangers making it impossible to do anything without and decent ranger or u have to spend 5k on cash to make it compete in PVE with other classes
now of they could somehow find a way to blance pvp with out nerf PVE im sure many of us is fine with that

 

People... this is a trap, always the same story. The person who opened the thread is probably not even reading it anymore, nor will reply. And we all know our arguments, and have repeated them over and over, so... I'll just put a like on all the responses because they're all true.

-Thread closed- (if only I had such awesome powers)

 

Of course! That's where everything starts. It should be completely different. Since PVP doesn't affect the PVE progress it should be something independent, I don't know how but it can't be the other way around and this is not player's fault. For example today I had clover for daily so I had to play few battles in arena and for sure I didn't want to switch to my PVP set because it would be a waste of gold and time. I only needed 3-4 battles so I registered 6v6 with my boss dmg set and I shot 22k EA to some mage. Is this ranger's fault? EA too strong? No! it doesn't matter because we are free to build our char however and let them play on any map we want. This and the skills having the same power both on arena and farm are the main problem.

 

I want EA to be changed, but I also disagree with the way OP started, its wrong. There is a clear imbalance in terms of PVE and rangers need to be improved.

The only thing I request about EA is its explosion without a hit. It brings no value in PVE whatsoever, but it creates issues in PVP, where it is unfair benefit, for instance in case of two rangers, one noob with EA hitting nowhere, and another skilled with precision trying really to hit.

Otherwise, EA is fine.

Other classes got those noob skills too, that make zero sense.

Mage got 2 (I play mage and 2h DK)
1. The burn of the area after the hit with fireball, which should be burn of the player instead, so you can cancel the burn with adrenaline without moving.
2. Ice Sphere, and its issue is that it doesnt take attack speed into account, so some noobs can build 0.833 speed builds and spam Ice Sphere like those who have 1.58.

DKs also got a few:
1. Explosion after death slowing down opponents, so unless you have jump you are dead. This is ridiculous.
2. Close to unlimited stuns (ability yo get them)

And Dwarfs have the most of those noob skills, the whole dwarf class is ridiculous. Running from you while attacking you... thats just crazy.

I know what you guys feel like, especially after recent nerf of precision shot, I do not get it myself, no one really cared about it.

But agree that EA explosion should be triggered by the hit only, so that is fair. So the players are improving their skills, not just learn to spam it into nowhere to randomly kill someone.

And I do support all your requests of PVE improvements, as a mage, as DK, and just as a player who plays this game since 2012.

 

I just don't trust anything that comes from balance decisions made by the developers. Years of experience is on my side.

 

So let's firstly nerf rangers AGAIN instead of tackling dk's balance?
Dat logic...

I agree to the statement though, that EA's explosion shouldn't be triggered without a hit.
Your claims about blade dance are garbage. It can help at avoiding attacks, however. vs skilled players it's not an optimal choice due to its slow performance. People can hit you several times before your animation has even ended.
I can't believe there are still people who think long bow is a 2h weapon....

 

EA does not need any change. It is working fine, and as the board admin said, is not bugged either. It works as it has to work.

What needs to be changed, apart from the fireballs etc, is the MC when the opponent has immune. You didn't MC successful, and therefore you can't use your skills without cooldown time. Simple as that, and based upon the description of the MC. Everyone seems to forget about it, when it comes for balancing the classes...

PS: If it is a wrong description and it works as it has to work, please an admin to confirm it, like you did with the EA.

 

no this is not a trap , my goal is not to destroy rangers or anything like it, just to point in few problems that need fixing

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ok i agree that in pve rangers dont have dmg efficiency like sm or a mage and yes i personaly would like to see this change , however in pvp rangers are op, ea is way more deadly than a fireball , many times i dont even see it until it explode and unlike fireball this cant be avoided,,.

 

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long story short...to make OP is about how long/much time, money you spend the game. skills just a small amount % plus. second the choice of equipment. in addition check that character what they are wearing, im sure it carry a heavy loads of nice gems and the jester gems if they have. so not just the skill to look in to at reference.

 

this is were you are wrong, skill ea is too op, i've seen some rangers that have lost all of their gems due to pinata abuse and even now without gems they are making impresive results in pvp due to the fact of having op skill

 

You can't nerf the rangers.
Remove and take everything from them ... all the skills and crap ... and they will still be OP.
That is because ranger is a naturally gifted class.
Rangers:
- are creative
- are handsome
- are left handed
- have very big ... and Long Bow
- can concentrate ... non of the other classes can
- can multiply ... themselves (spawning wolves/tree)
- can divide by zero (wolves/tree nowhere to be found)
- etc ... ... ... ...

 

ranger will always be nerf time and time again the more players put money and time into there character someone will always start to vry too op in pvp and then come the dev with the Nerf stamp same goes for other classes i think theu are always looking for a quick fix and they dont really look in to long term result of the classes the more they nerf the weak we become in pve and soon or later some players will leave to find other games