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  1. EhtovK

    EhtovK Old Hand

    There's actually a lot of areas and spots in the game where frozen sphere won't shoot, I reported it months ago..., like a lot of months ago, provided a video (not mine, but proof nonetheless), and I kept repeating myself time and time again in this and other threads to no avail, reminding me this is DSO, this is how things are done around here.

    For instance, try FS against Gorga in the next DtU, the map is so full of those "negating spots" in a "so convenient range" that I end up using LS in frustration, Q1M2 (this one is particularly miserable), Bearach's boss map, Weakened Veil map, I could point a lot of locations but meh, what for?, it'll probably still be here long after I'm long gone myself.

    As for the stairs thing, FS actually gets blocked a lot by any kind of obstacles, stairs (when trying to shoot up), small rocks, invisible obstacles, hell, even a small altitude difference in the landscape can be a nightmare if you're engaged with monsters in the wrong spot.
     
  2. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    690k dmg for an overall 50 kills, meaning an overall 13800 dmg per kill, is not really that much. It surely isn't for a mage. Unless that guy was using a rough setup based on defensive stats.... I don't see the problem. But when I take a look at your opponents, I don't think that was the case, lolz. And with that bug, he'd still hit a lot more... I've seen some screenshots of people's dmg with that bug. Let's say it was somewhere close to a 6-digit number :p. Now let's wait and see how much time they need to fix this one...

    That amount of damage isn't too hard to reach in a PvP game, some people simply have a good day and get a nice K/D. :)
    As Sebastian said you can easily get 1M+ dmg in 5v5/6v6, depending on the situation.

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    That's the first pic I could find so I just took that one.
    This one's from about 5 months ago... and because my defense has always been extremely low (about 4-5k hp and under 60% armor) I died pretty often. But you can see that dmg is not a big deal in PvP. Sadly, it's often about landing the 1st hit (= the last as well).

    I don't see what's so fishy in your screenshot, but I'd be glad if you'd care to explain it :) Would make things more clear for everyone.


    In my opinion, those numbers aren't impressive at all. But I might be the only one who has always been running around in PvP with PvE-equipment (= full-dmg) :p

    Kind regards
     
  3. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    I also use farming setup on arena, exclusively) just to save gold. I have no experience in 6v6, so cant really say what number is impressive. All my matches there happened before I reached 50. Except maybe for 20.

    But I can say in 5v5, 1M is very doable, and I did that multiple dozens of times, and my record so far is

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    If conditions are right, opponents are strong enougb to keep game till the end, I can see 2M very doable)

    Just few more destructions)
     
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  4. madmice

    madmice Forum Greenhorn

    that is not the full client installer... coz when i installed it and run the game, it need to patch around 1.2gb of files. I hope there is another link where i can download the FULL game client. TY!
     
  5. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    6v6 has a different mechanics than 5v5 ... That is not a place where you can sit on a buff and spam around the entire match. The map is almost 10 time the size of 5v5 and most important the spawning time in 6v6 is much longer. Yet ... someone manage to deal enormous damage to the opponent team which BTW is not even full it has only 5 players (meaning at some point there will be no opponents on the map they will all waiting for respawn).
    Lets assume that player is using full critical damage build ... he can "easily" get to that damage/kill number ... however ... you can't crit hit ram/turrets/bombs (same like in stellar gold arena/anniversary event arena). In order to deal huge damage to them one need to have a pure damage build Like in this screen (4th ranked midget in the blue team)
    [​IMG]

    You can't have high damage on them and players in same time ... either you will destroy them or you will kill players OR average on both.
    But in this case it is like he is casting thermonuclear bomb with every shot ... destroying everything in the map :D
    [​IMG]

    Here are some normal 6v6 matches:
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    Now ... that player was in the red team the very next fight ... he didn't look so OP this time (even if in red team) ... after the "miracle" expired (or maybe because the match ended up too fast)
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    But I have a story to tell ...
    Once upon a time DQ were changed and gilded clover added in the rewards pool. I was having a "no clover" streak for almost 3.5 months ... so i decided to make notes every time I get clover from DQ. Therefore I am making separate folders in my bookmarks . Each folder is named by the date i am playing arena for clover

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    I am making notes ... in form of screenshots ... for everything I think I should. So i went through my "archive" and I found screens of matches (with that player) that happened couple of weeks ago.

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    Looks like any other player when not using "miracle boost".

    I don't play PvP after R155 ... so i don't have "special PvP gear" ... i play with same equipment like in PvE.
    Really? :) 5v5 Yes it is doable even 2M ... but i don't think in 6v6 is doable both on players and mechanism .
    :D Like you wan't to be excused? This is not a new bug ... it is very old bug which appears occasionally with different equipment.
    Looks like Alan has answer to everything :D
     
  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    That is the full and only client installer.
    Once you download and install it ... it will download the required contents ... there is no other way to download them using the client.
     
  7. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    Was talking about my screenshot that dated from 28.06.16 but yeah you are right :) Other bugs like that old dmg-bug concerning dragan equipment were abused too. Where people could get the dmg bonus and choose their favourite equip (dragan or 2h wasn't necessary in the end) and that one took some time to fix... But those weren't as heavy as this one. I've seen characters with about 100k dmg. Due to that shitty bug. And in this case it's visible on the character stats screen as well. So in my opinion this one's from a different category, simply way bigger than the past ones. Pretty solid but they'll probably need too much time to fix it once again :)


    Criticism aside but you & I both know that the bomb system is pretty bugged as well once the red team breaks through the gates :p

    All it takes there is 1 laser to get 60k+ bomb dmg, and they're back pretty quickly. You know what I'm talking about. :p

    But I guess I wasn't there, I guess I'll just have to believe that miracle hmm :p


    Yep but a mage will need some big luck... I could often get 800k+ like you can see in the pic above. Imagine what a stronger player with more defense can do :) Because we all know I'm not that strong :D
    Some luck with destructions can do the job, and those aren't hard to aim when the enemy is so predictable in terms of walking around... Many people get way too close to the mechanisms, and it is pretty doable to hit 3 or more targets in the process :p
    But yeah... as I said, all it takes is big luck and a skilled mage I guess :)


    Well yeah that's a solid reason :p And I agree... even tho (s)he should have way more dmg in that 6v6 match with that bug... 100% surely. But something's weird there, true.
     
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  8. My "musing" was more of a warning. Much like I did when the extent of the Anniversary exploit abuse became obvious. Not that I think we'll have a repetition of those wholesale perma-bans this time...

    Regarding the new CM: I have no official statement to offer. I was told that he is still going through the training process, but should be ready to hit the ground running very soon. No, not running away.

    As for the future of DSO: I've got no short-mid term concerns there. My personal view is that the SEA version is up to speed, so the team should be in a position so send a bit of lovin' our way again. Hopefully. Rumour has it there's a re-focus on bug-squishing. But we've all heard that tune before.
     
  9. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    can you guys ask the devs or who ever in charge to focus on the bugs and balancing a little bit more and hold onto new content cause there are bugs from years back kinda sucks to see they havent even been fixed makes dso/bp look like unprofessional no offence
     
  10. GodChronos

    GodChronos Forum Expert

    Allogeneous about your thread that you just posted. I have no idea what set causes that bug of yours but how will I know if the stuff I use is a part of it?
     
  11. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    You would notice it :)) just look if you dmg looks normal, and not like 2x of what it should be))
     
  12. Dylannn

    Dylannn Board Analyst

    Don't worry... it doesn't trigger that easily. There are some things that need to be done

    You would surely notice that. When you're dealing 5-20x the amount of your normal dmg... you know something's wrong xD Furthermore you can see the increased dmg in the character screen tab, if you really worry, and trust me... you can't look past that bug once it's activated, I've seen a few screenshots. xD
     
  13. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    btw, @Allogeneous, sigi set is also bugged, nothing major comparing to 'that' one, but it does trigger without weird action, e.g. with normal user actions. and 'unfortunately' it happens to me frequently, as I use that scenario by default all the time. here it is:


    EDIT


    feel free :) to delete the above once you have seen it.
     
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  14. GodChronos

    GodChronos Forum Expert

    Okay, thanks. :)
     
  15. jayr3d

    jayr3d Regular

    seriously can you (Devs) or who ever deals with bugs please fix the whole frost spere and tele bugs or compensate us for having to die due to these bugs even tho i prefer the bug being fixed over compensation @Sunlight

    update now my 5v5 is bugged LOL anyone has some secret on how to fix that ? since they wont fix much
     
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  16. LudiGrozd

    LudiGrozd Advanced

    Been testing and found a way around the issue, just make sure you don't have a cooldown time on a skill you're thinking of using w/ AF and it works fine. I tried, Teleport, Destruction, Meteor... ect all work that way, you are geting 1s any skill to use w/o cooldown time.
     
  17. rjrichards

    rjrichards Forum Pro

    No one is at the helm...
     
  18. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    At least we are not headed towards ant reefs or shoals... what that you say?... oh the lookout quit too :eek:

    Anyway... WHY THE HECK WON'T Y'ALL PUT BLACK WARLORD ON GNOB!!!!!
    Dragon Silver.... yeah, got the one important piece some time ago.
    Darkness... still ok but full set is becoming a thing of the past.

    Here and on FB more players ask for warlord set than any others. So please give us bread instead of saying, "let 'em eat cake." ;)

    Luck be with ye,
    Mikey,
    Tegan
     
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  19. .paschall.

    .paschall. Junior Expert

    why cant you sell passes to gnobs cave so we can get the stuff that was on the old gnob so we dont have to wait forever for things to come on sale -most of the stuff thats on there noone really wants-i think thats just to pacify us so we dont bug you guys all the time when gnob is coming to town!! hes in town but noone wants that crap for the most part!!
     
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  20. multitoonz

    multitoonz Forum Great Master

    3 questions to the phantom CM.
    1. Is the Xmas event going to be released BUG FREE or are there going to be exploits in it again where people can get "The Big Present" with little to no effort?
    2. Why did you release the statement in the Nov 1 revised ToC stating "Pushing and Boosting are not allowed and punishable offenses" when twinking is alive and well still today? So as more events happen these players keep getting more free items and making low level pvp even more unbearable. Your legal dept needs to stop creating documents with idle threats that will never be enforced.
    3. Why Dark Armor and Dragon Silver sales in Dec when people have been asking for the old Dragan set forever now? You didn't have the set sale during the Dragan event but now want to offer the dark set which is becoming basically obsolete with these new gear sets the PW bosses are dropping. But the old Dragan set is still useful and you refuse to allow players to purchase it without throwing away hard earned draken in the game of chance called the Gnob gear orbs.
    And on that note, we can get the old Witch Chaser sets as boss drops from the NEW New Moon event, we can get the old Vargulf pieces from the mini bosses in the NEW Full Moon event, so why pray tell didn't you put the old Dragan set in the NEW Dragan event as possible drops from mini bosses or even the main bosses. At least that way we wouldn't need 22k draken to throw at orbs hoping to get a full set without having 42 pieces of useless melt. AND THEN STILL not have enough draken left over to finish the set.

    Anxiously awaiting another ban because I'm sure I said something that is a ban worthy offense here.
     
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