Suggestion Daily challange rewards

Currently, from lvl 50 to 55, the reward in all 3rd-tier daily challanges (aside of buff) are gem refiners of quaizah. Of course that's the way to gain them for players who haven't refined all their gems yet and don't want to buy those, but there is also a big group of people who have refined all their gems already, and this group is growing. Of course, when somehow getting into lower-lvl zone and dropping a gem there, we need to refine it. However, it's sure that you will have enough for that after some time, and many players have.

There should be a way to choose the reward. Don't say that gold for selling refiners is a reward... The worth of 10 refiners is less than reward in 2nd-tier 55 lvl generic challange.

My suggestion:
After completing a 2nd-tier challange the 3rd-tier challange appears with empty reward window, highlighted with flashes similarly to the currency bag icon when something is added to it. By then, the "accept" button would be greyed out and unclickable. On click on the reward place, a pop-up window would appear where you could choose what you want: refiners or either gold, essences or honor badges - for generic, boss and pvp challanges, respectively.

Now people often choose not to do the 3rd tier of challanges when they don't have clover or, for some, infernal passages on the end. With implementation of this, there would be a reason to do the last tier of challanges, too.

 

Nope. We've been thru this before. Feel free to search my posts if you want to know what I said then.

Luck be with ye,
Mikey,
Tegan

 

Have you read my post closely? Tell me where am I suggesting to remove them?

They are needed and will always be needed, as new players keep reaching the 50lvl and have to refine their gems. But regular players (not twinks and not players who have been at max lvl for some time already before r185) do it pretty quickly. For some time it's ok for them that they are getting the refiners, as they probably, especially between 50 and 55 lvl, wander quite often into lower lvl maps (eg. Lor'Tac). However, as they stack on them and have no use for them, it soon becomes completly useless. That's why I suggest to add an option for those who don't need the refiners anymore to get something else.

 

Unless you have full royals, refiners are not completely useless.

 

Yes I did. Here is the verbose reasoning to my opposition to this variation of this idea.

Long time players have an advantage in games. This is the natural order of things. Newbies in games often bemoan this fact and seek ways to turn this on it's head. This suggestion would do just that.

Since I am a long time player I will be needing refiners for the foreseeable future. So whilst I slog away for weeks on end to refine one gem some greenie will be reaping rewards of coin, essence and honor. Nay I say. Daily challenges are just fine as is. If they do not benefit a rookie as much as myself then all is well.

One might ask, "will I still feel this way in a year or so when I no longer need refiners?" Indeed I shall. I longingly look forward to the day that I do not need to do pvp matches or kill some boss that I have no other reason to kill just for 10 measly refiners (as I currently do most every single day.) In fact if I could ignore dailys completely beyond doing them when I felt like it, such as for clovers or an event item in the boss category, I would be ecstatic.

In addition, as I believe I mentioned in the other thread, even newbies can use refiners. Recently there was a 50% discount gem sale. I realize that some may not have had the ander yet to take advantage of that this time around. But that sale will happen again. If one plays the game with fervor over time they will have the anders to buy those old gems in the future and thus will be needing that stash of so-called useless refiners.

So there you have it. I started this account and my main toon, a Ranger, in December 2011 about a week after that class was added to the game. Admittedly this colours my perspective.

Luck be with ye,
Mikey,
Tegan

 

What if someone just doesn't want to buy gems?

So... you have a great advantage over new players already by having great gems and you want it to grow bigger and bigger? Do you really think that everything is right when you get better benefits from doing the same things that a new player?

If you think that those are that good, why don't you want them? If you think that a handful of copper or a few essences are going to give others an enormous advantage... just take them, too!

You are actually saying that just because you haven't refined all your gems yet you want others to receive crap from dailies?

What if you just don't want to buy gems?

Hell, I'm not saying to remove them! Why there can't be possibility for those who don't want them to get something they can't actually use? What you are doing is just trying to make everyone bandwagoners...

 

I posted the same general suggestion months ago, and recieved the same responses from end-gamers so focused on converting their stacks of high-level old-style gems that they didn't understand I wasn't asking to take that away from them, but to simply give me back the potential to earn resources that >I< need as a weak, new Lvl55 toon.

They can earn their gem refiners while I earn the gold and essence I need to >try< to make it through a Painful PW Q.

Nope, they don't give a hoot about anyone but themselves, and BP sides with them because BP hopes that if I can't farm the resources I need to grow, I'll buy them.

So, I quit (though I obviously come back here to read up on the continued deterioration of the game by BP devs) ... I have lots more free time now

 

Yes. I have 3k gem rafiners at the moment, no use of them. Yes i can sell for some gold, but gold amount isnt attractive at all, or buy old gems and change in new, but how much refiners i need for that? Not even half of this. Why not implement other option so old players can have refiners and new players purple/red essence which they need much more. Old players had red/purple ess before expansion, now they have refiners...and what about new? Like saphires are not enough punishement for ppl who wanna start this game.