Bot users and leaderboards

Bot users are illegal and should be punished. However, we keep seeing bot users still in the game. Pre leaderboards we did not care that much as we do now and it also was not as noticable as it is now thanks to the pve leaderboard points. There are players that in each season are farming only the m1 of the PWs and that is not a problem by itself. However, when we keep seeing that in every single season that is frustrating to us, fair players. What i spotted today is that a bot user that was also proven by a youtube video, but i could apprehend it myself too, is at the top in pve solo leaderboards of rangers on Heredur server. There is no damn way that this player in every single season and in every single dungeon is farming only the first maps and does not go for pristine cores, elemental cores and the materis from the boss.

Personally, i dont care about bot users as long as they dont derive fair players of valuable things from the leaderboards and also laugh in their face, when the players are thriving to go for the top 3 ranks and the bot user does even sweat.
P.S:There are many bot users like him, some even more obvious, like a Dk that the only thing i see him doing from the first leaderboard season, 1 year ago, is farm like crazy the q5 m1, which is the most worthless map and having almost no points in other Qs.
Why dont you do something about that? Also, the answer "it requires alot of time" and similar ones are not acceptable.
Lastly, i did not send this to the support because i have already done it some months ago, but i see no action and i wanted to post it here

 

The legend says that the #1 overall rank is held by a bot in 2 of the other remaining class LBs as well, and that the last #1 human will fall before the end of the season.
Fair players that used to compete for those slots this season turned to group LB probably because they knew BP wouldn't do anything in time.

 

more than bot are the people that share the account, 15-20h farming for day? everyday? i dont think this is just one people :y

 

I think this is just coffee/energydrink junkies, using a toilet as chair, who have old pizzaboxes all around them and live in a basement somewhere. Let's give them credit for their effort, no?

 

There is an easy fix. Not to count any points after 12h (or whatever) online of the given day. But it's incredible they didn't ban anyone in 3 years...

 

There was similar feature when we were testing new server for US and Canada couple years ago. After total 4 hours of play in a day, a pop up would come and tell us to take break and prevent us from playing. I think, similar feature( reduced drop rate?) is already hidden in the program for anyone playing longer hours.

 

No, that was for the Asian markets. They have law against game addiction a lot of kids are running into, and those features are required over there. Thats why they got legal bot though.

 

Not sure if we were ever asked to test for Asian server but the one I am taking about was especially asking for testing players from US and Canada.
https://board-en.drakensang.com/threads/exciting-drakensang-testing-opportunity.68709/#post-633988

 

If I remember correctly, it was just a regular day on test server when someone spotted that "don't play too long" debuff. When people freaked out on the forums, the mods told us that it wasn't coming to live servers and was simple a feature that had been developed for the Asian market. It was around the same time that the official bot was on test server and that made another rage thread before being told that it was going to the Asians and that sparked even further outrage.

 

Really? I always play between 22-06 ... so i should be punished because they can't ban the botters?

 

The good old days

That said, you shouldnt be punished for it. However, players that are active for 15 hours a day, 7 days a week, might deserve a closer look.
This bot-user discussion has been going on forever though, which to me raises the question, has bp ever released information on the forums about what they are actually doing against botters?

(not that i care that much about botters, since i have too much of a life outside this game to even make it close to any leaderboard position, but i sympathise with those who do.)

 

What do you mean by between?
I meant total play time on the given date exceeding 12h (whatever) in every 24h cycle doesn't count towards ranking. Given the fact you sleep 6-8 hours, eat, poop and do something else, guess you should be fine) botters play 24/7. I would even make it 8 hours - and even if you sometime play more, you spend the first 8 hours on ranking related stuff, and then move to smth else still getting drops etc, just without the ranking points.

But I agree with the conceptual ' they cannot ban botters' and given I know how easy it is, I'm pretty sure they just don't want.

 

Ah, I thought you are referring to playing time after 00:00
I am usually playing between 22:00 and 06:00

sleeping more than 4 hours is a luxury for me

 

BAN THEM! We all can see bots in leaderboards TIME 0

 

Time bonuses of zero means nothing. If all you do is run in painful, time bonuses can be very hard to get, and some people don't do full runs, preferring to do bosses in groups. I'm all for banning bots, but we should all count ourselves lucky that the people who determine who is and isn't a bot have more common sense than to say "Ban the people with high scores but no time bonuses."

 

Actually, he is really on point, he just does not know how to experess it in a better way. What he really wanted to say is what i said when i created the post:" Players that have like 5million points and more in all 9 qs and yet they have done like 5-6 boss runs are really suspicious". Lets say its ok not to go for the final boss.
However, doing that in all Qs and getting high scores in all of them is like" Hey guys, im clearly a bot user and i am laughing in the face of this game's Devs as they dont ban me". Grimmagstone,Stonekeep, perhaps, but only perhaps,q6 m1 and m2 without mortis and lastly q8 are the only Qs that i can say that the players would not mind going only for m1. The reasons are pretty much obvious.
Q1: smallest m1 of the Pws. Its m1 lets you fill almost full the bar of leaderboard points without needing to go for m2.
Q3: its m1 is as fast as Q1s if not more, with less monsters in general but the same number of magic monsters
Q6m1/m2: Here, most players would go all the way for well known reasons. However, some could opt to go for m1 and m2 because mortis is not the easiest boss and there are more magic monsters because the dark knights are included.
Q8:This map is maybe the toughest map, not because of how big it is(m2 is actually quite big) but mainly because of the shooting towers and all the slows that make the players waste more time and yet fewer points, when its m1 has many monsters and even if they clear 50% of the m1, they will fill the bar of points faster than running to the boss.

Now, why the others maps are not good? Well, they are terribly vast and with tougher monsters than the aforementioned Qs, with only q5 m1 being an exception, but its m1 is not worth farming and more of us here know the reasons(not gonna refer to them).

I dont say ban everyone that has many points without going for the bosses. But you know whats even more strange. Not the fact that the bots dont do boss runs but the fact that most bot users have like i said above: 5+ million points with like 10-12k of them being from doing 5-6 boss runs, in some cases though they dont even do 1 single run by themselves, i guess it would tire them alot.You want another sign of proof? Check the group leaderboards and compare them to the solo ones: How many players in the group leaderboards will have 5-6 boss runs? And here, we are talking about players that are not starters but veterans with perfect gear.
So, trust me my friend, on the 2 most populated servers, the bot users are really a nuisance and the fact that they are easily noticable is incontrovertible and this is not my opinion, but its the opinion of most of the experienced fair players of this game. If you now cannot notice the obvious bot users, maybe you have been off this game for quite alot time, but players like me that are playing for the leaderboards every day, yes we know it better than anyone.

P.S: I wonder: Those players that dont go for the bosses dont need cores and the materis from the boss map? I say that because 90% of those players with terribly high scores without boss fights are doing it, ever since the leaderboards came, namely 1 year ago. I wonder..... fair players with almost 0 cores for 1 year? How will they craft or should i say: How did they craft those tier 5 weapons they have and they allow them to farm on infernal mode?