Development Team Letter - CLASS BALANCING

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  1. sebastian_fl

    sebastian_fl Count Count

    OMG) you get a like for the story. I agree with most you said btw, on the sets, items, bonuses etc.

    And your comment on 2handed being more then twice stronger than 1handed is the Holly Grail. With 1h you only double the defense, maybe a little more. Let's say 60% more. But you lose 70% of offense. This makes zero sense, I agree.

    But, nevertheless, SW are indeed the slowest class in PVE as of today.

    And, there is one class that is broken way more then the others. And guess you agree with that.

    As for Sebastian's power, you would be surprised how many players smash him without a chance. I know a couple of dozens of tanks that would laugh at me standing. There are quite a few stronger mages and archers too. And most high-end dwarfs will laugh at my boss killing time (not sure about dwarfs in pvp).

    Anyway. Game is more broken than ever. Amen to that.

    Happy New Year man.
     
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  2. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I can't neither agree nor disagree on that ... I certainly wouldn't mind if SWs (and only SWs) get PVE boost. That won't change my gameplay. In fact it will boost my farm since I always play in group of rangers and SWs ... sometimes there are midgets in the group ... and in very very rare occasion DKs.
     
  3. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    It seems that 90% of the people who read my post ignored the premise, so I'll state it one last time, in as simple of words as I can, before stepping out of the discussion.

    A well balanced 1H DK is incredible in PvP, notably in 1v1 and is easily the top PvP build in the entire game at this time. That said, a "tank only" DK like was being described, is easily handled by not fighting them on their terms.

    My second point was that some of the DKs that have been described, by my estimation and experience, are impossible to achieve without sacrificing one stat for another significantly. I await hard proof (calculation or screenshot) that proves otherwise.
     
  4. urazizdragon

    urazizdragon Forum Greenhorn

    To whom ever can help. I am unable to log in to game server! I get error message "unable to connect to client". I have removed and reinstalled the down load, deleted all cookies, rebooted computer and still cannot connect! Can someone connect. Is it possible that I could get a response in my email? Thank you for your assistance
     
  5. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master

    Well the new year has arrived, and as BP promised, we should expect some pvp and re-balancing in the early 2018.I hope this rebalancing comes before Dragan event does because it would be simply unfair for everyone but the mages to kill dragan in 30-40 seconds while the mages will have to spend few minutes per kill even if its not on inf3.Hurry up BP, fix this already.

    As to those hp regenerations in pvp, maybe its time for them to dissapear like hp pots did.As it is right now, it gives a huge advantage to a class while killing the others.BP has removed hp pots so people wont relly on exhaustion/running around or to make warriors immortal.Now these hp regenerations do exactly what the hp pots did.
     
  6. aleksa1277

    aleksa1277 Forum Apprentice

    When will the arena be balanced, when will the bots finally be banned, how long will it be tolerated by people playing bot programs and any other hacks? When are you balancing all classes?
     
  7. zmekta

    zmekta Forum Greenhorn

    Hi there,
    you announced this : ...
    "NEW SEASON (INFERNAL III)

    Start: 13th January 2018
    End: 11th March 2018"

    Please explain that last line: end 11th March ??? Then is gone or what ?
     
  8. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Very simple:
    the new LB season starts on 13th January 2018 and ends on 11th March 2018 ... that doesn't mean Infernal III ends at that point.
     
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  9. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    The word you're missing (or misunderstanding) is "season". Seasons end and when that happens a new season comes around.

    In the context of this game, leaderboard seasons last for 1 or 2 months. You stop getting points and get your rewards when the season ends. Some time after that a new season begins and you repeat the process.
     
  10. thouvou000

    thouvou000 Forum Expert

    In light of the upcoming dragan event, dont you think its about time you reworked those useless block strength runes that can only be used in 2h weapons and make them usable in shields, like those runes from the ghost festival? What is the reason that those runes have not been reworked yet? i really wonder......we have 3 of those runes from the last dragan event and even now you still have not reworked them on test server, not to mention that not only they are useless as they currently are, but they will be pretty useful for 1h builds. You still have the time to fix that issue before the dragan events comes and its too late
     
  11. Hiro73

    Hiro73 Forum Expert

    Block strength runes must also be used in Dragan's shoulders
     
  12. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Veteran

    Are you sure of that?

    I see only :
    - Rune of Grand Persistence (Dragan event): +0,16 Block Strength (Double-Handed)
    - Rune of Persistence (Ghost Festival event): +0,08 Block Strength (Off Hand, Main Hand, Double-Handed)

    At now on shoulders you can use only Rune of Materi Blessing
     
  13. Fugnuts

    Fugnuts Forum Master


    Most likely it was a suggestion to make those runes usable on shoulders along with 1hand,2hand and shield.
     
  14. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    no pls dont give tanks more stuff to use. This may sound like whining but consider only tanks can use the spider set.... and now the runes ...... might aswell give everything to them..? Idk can we stop with the dk mania , this rune is useable only for dk if t hey make it possible to put in shields.Ny suggestion is instead of block strenght to give block chance( it cna be usefull sometimes ) and it will be usefull for all classes.
     
  15. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    What are you talking about? Other classes can equip shoulder pads and use shields too.
     
  16. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    we all know that only tank can use this runes efficiently . You wont see mage archer or dwarf using shield...because simply they are not designed to soak up dmg but rather to dish it out themselves
     
  17. thouvou000

    thouvou000 Forum Expert

    First of all, the last couple of days i have seen many mages going for 1h builds with shields, mostly Riddle for its crit dmg boost, and they do pretty well since they spam ice missile and that along with the block from the shield, the speed they have (im talking about high speed players) and the slow from their skills, they do incredibly well.As for ranger, we all know more and more rangers go for 1h builds and maybe the only class that does not use it is dwarves, but sometimes even them use it.

    Secondly and lastly, players like you that are playing for so long should know already how the game works and understand what makes a class strong. Do you really think the problem with the dks is the shields and their block strength?Guess what, NO. The problem is that they heal and that because the shields give % hp, since they way more hp than the other classes, that %hp from all items and wisdom points scales immensely, making also the healing alot better. If they did not have this much regen, which gets even higher with more hp, they would not be as strong now
     
  18. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    you just prove my point XD.Most of the players go 1h against tanks since they kill you overtime not with burst but since they have healing and it is % of hp if you have 3 or 4 runes of these you can go 3lines increased block rate on the shield and one line increased hp which make even more healing. So i didnt say other classes cant actually use it but why fight a loosing battle ?My concern about the 1h playing is when playing vs 1h tanks. Only they can utilize this rune the most since they have the abilities to do so.
     
  19. bLaind

    bLaind Forum Baron

    I've recently encountered a lvl 27 RA that was using explosive arrow. :eek:
    What's up with that? o_O
     
  20. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    That is impossible. To quote the old internet adage "Pics (or video), or it didn't happen."
     
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