Feedback GAME REBALANCING FEEDBACK THREAD

dev knows that every day players reach on end gear with max crafted wich ruins pvp and overall to easy. now its theyr exuse to so so "called ballance pve" wich they think relasing inf4 and 5 to players acumulate even higher stats evenutaly. sort of speak every mmo does that. this is turning into [EDIT] latest. to have infinite modes to repeat farm and farm. but as they mention on latest stream. pvp will be striped.. they think whats best for players but they are so sooooooo wrong..


funny how cmjesse streamed and showed his stats without damage gems and onxyses.

i die sometimes with 32k hp on inf3 but with new wisdom and if max wisdom i would die even more and nonstop. bye solo play inf3 then.

i wont waste another summer for this game. i just want to play alone if i have time to play. but they take it away and force players to play capable levels. for now fatal going to be like inf3 if this comes to live.

no thanks bigboint.


this is feedback. stop muting players who give theyr sense of feedback. [EDIT]

 

Well, if it is not possible to return with steam now, if they are going to take something important that is to everyone and not to one, in fact I do not have problems with a simple ability, I do not know ... using "plan subito" to regenerate vapor as other classes do, or do I ask too much?

I think many have some hatred for the little one, thanks ah the last few years with the famous dwarsang

 

Well considering mages need to make specific builds in order to have high mana yes i do have a problem with that. Im sacrificing fast minion kill in order to be good at the boss and you want 1 fast map farming + 2 fast boss farming , so i must spend 4-5 months waiting while you have 0 downsides. Rangers also depend or rng of the q7 and net so why should dwarf have both for free ? They should make a set so that the tactical turret returns the steam and everything will be tip top . If you want infinite spell spam you have to dedicate a build and not get it for free.

 

Sir? What do you mean..?
You think its so easy to work with 100 steam when your turrets take 50/ ?
From the beggining i still use the 10 point talent one for more steam+ get back more steam from the turrets, so i can place them kinda easily..
Now this wont be in the class tree.
Why u all hating this much on dwarfs? lmao

What mage specific build?
Which mage useing Grimmag torso nowadays? other than Q8?
Khaly set? other than Witchseeker?

Tell me how you build a mage specificly to mana. Cause i might can do that with my dwarf after 208.

 

i use grimmag s robe. i used khalys pauldrons untill recently..
And to be hones the combo grimmags + magotian addorment is better than q8 and i know since i have played with both. And if you want to make a mana build for your dwarf just create somthing that you want to play with lmao.

We dont have it its just stupid because they change your way of playing. The y take the tactical turret and give you other oprions while giving crit , and now you want the turret back so if you make the calculations if they give it back its the old dwarf + crit so straight buff. And my question is why ?

 

Other options, very good option to make another skill useless? lmao
Other options? what the bombs with the terrible animation speed? low dmg? Oil slick? Dwarf-in-the-box? Iron dwarf? Tesla now? Tactical turret??
Such a great possibility to use your skills..
Even after 208 u will only see q7 dwarfs, well that a great variety of unique sets, wow..

Yes i want the turrets to recreat steam after getting destoyed.. ofc i want to, every other dwarf say that would be correct.

Straight buff? (old dwarf?)

With these conditions they cant bring back the old dwarf ,what are you saying?
They even reduced the turrets dmg? speed multiplier removed!?
And they trying to make the useless skills a bit usefull ,but still that didnt happened..

Dwarfs didnt cried for crit, this is other classes fault, now why u complaining again?
After dwarf getting crit now thats the main problem that they get crit..
I would be fine without crit too, with high speed build..
And even there would be 2 diferent type of build for dwarfs which makes a variety..

Your question is why? cause you are clearly a hater who just want to nerf the dwarf comminity even more?
let the dwarfs give feed back about their resort..

The devs know which would made them powerfull and they can contact with us what should get changed about the feedback.
They even pushed the date away for a bit to get more feedback..

 

you have wisdom talents to improve your health points, block rate, armor, resistances.. also bosses can be debuffed

 

If you want more steam, use items which give steam like q1 robe and put some points in the steam section of the wisdom tree after r208.
In addition to that, there are 2 steam buffs which can bring you up to 250+ steam. I hope that is enough steam for you

 

As of now (test server), about PvE farming (mostly referring to boss fights, DKs Rangers and SMs are quite balanced, while SW is still a step or two below the others.

Open TS and look at wisdom talents for dwarf.

 

because all you see on global chat q1 inf2 need dwarf or what ever q they ask dwarfs for. and refuse other classes as mage and ranger. but most of them dont know that mage or ranger can be multiple times better than dwarf. without crit dwarf is no go and even with. dwarfs play pure damage, from beginning i hated that conecpt from this class. and then some dwarfs come cry on forum stating others are more ballanced. and steam back from used skill, camoon. this is no good at all. . theres should be skills to regen steam.

its sill on work in progress. even if new wisdom comes to live server with modified skills theres going to be lot of people anyway who hate it... tests based on 0 crafted items on testserver. whyle on live server players have crafted items years. some months. some with overnight. and they get feedback based on couple players and they call it community feedback xD i want to swear now lol

 

Then, you didn't said that any mage can farm (both, maps and bosses) easily? that they just have to use the "uniquenes" and it will be the easiest thing on the game? xD

My bad, i thought that those attacks dealt andermagic dmg, then, as you said, they will be reduced by armor... all the mage attacks will be reduced by something...

That it's the Dwarf characteristic, they can put their turrets to deal dmg and "move" or use other attacks, other than Dwarfs, only dks can use "Fury of the Dragon" (and it consumes 60 fury, not 50, and have very limited range) and deal good dmg (singularity, guardian, hunting trap, etc. don't deal "a lot" of dmg) but other than that, there's no other class that can do it.

 

Look how funny is what they say, if you think you only saw people talking about dwarfs before, but that is the fault of the players not the dwarf, but now it will be worse, the dwarves will be stronger in the group because this time we will hit with a critical and this time if we go to need a group to play, then now the good dwarves will look for groups like crazy and not so much we will go alone to kill as before, and I do not say that the dwarf will be the strongest, I just say we will be stronger, but only valid in group xd, that's why I ask for my steam regenerator, I do not like to depend on the tank when I play

I just asked for an ability to regenerate the steam and they went out with me to increase the steam, it's funny, I already have it, everyone has it, that's not in dispute, I did not ask for more basic steam, I asked for a steam regenerator, a little head read

 

SW may be more than 1-2 steps behind, just look on the killtime of all four classes. Every other class kills the same boss in half the time. Isn`t this proof enough that SW are by far the weakest?

 

Mage is the least single-target DPS oriented class. To answer your question, it isn't proof enough. Strengths of SW that come to mind are long armor break on most monsters (other classes get half a second tops on hard levels), area of effect crowd control exceeding all others, elemental damage mostly (will be more important after this update, you'll see), and instant teleport (no long animation where monsters can attack the new location hitbox).

 

please dont make group effects always active, I want to disable the deadly blow one

 

Most talents you pointed out are obsolete right now, why do i need a long armor break if a ranger/dk/dwarf kills the miniboss in one q7 buff anyway? Mages do have decent crowd control, but if you can blast the mobs in one q7 buff, does crowd control matter anymore? Having elemental damage isnt a benefit anymore, because boss resistances were more raised than armor, which results in mages doing less damage to bosses.

The advantages you mentioned are fine in solo play, but in group play, a mage can't really be beneficial at all.

 

It sounds more like dwarves are the issue then, way too much dps.

 

Its not about any class dealing too much damage in the first place. Either you give the mage equal possibilities to deal damage similiar to the others, or just something to make every mage a valuable member of a group. Each class fills a role in this game, except the mage, there is nothing a mage can do, the others cant. Except some crowd control but like i said, every monster dies in seconds if other classes are around. and there goes the crowd control.

 

You misunderstood. Sure if we talk about killimg time, SW is the slowest (together with rangers, unless they use Q7) of all four classes, but this is just one way to see it.

It is obvious that in (game already mentioned) an Affli Lock kills a mob in more time compared to an Enh Shaman, because one is a DoT class and the other is kinda burst class. But, in the end, they nearly do the same dmg using the same numbers of skills.

I think BP should focus on other factors other than Killing Time.

 

I am assuming that every class is using Q7 Set because its kinda the only viable one. We dont have a big variety of classes, we only have damage dealer and tank but mage is non of them.

Why should everyone be faster as a mage? Our time is precious too. Why should we spend more time for the same results as other classes?