Feedback Community Letter Release 213/14

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  1. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    In my opinion was succesfull because was easy to access, was browser based I have started to play at work without to install anything, was free to play so many kids had access and most important was translated in many languages so that pepple that knows only maternal language like kids or simple workers was able to play few hours every after noon, was easy to play, nothing fancy at lv 40, that was the strength of this game in my opinion. See what it has now? You need to install to play, many forums are shut down so you don't have a place where to get info in your language if you have problems understanding this game because that is no longer a simple game like it was back days at lv 40.
    Is not a free to play anymore you. Need to buy some things for end game you cant be equal with a player that buy and play if you just play, now you have so many things to buy not just gems and boxes for 50% speed or dmg for 30 seconds I think it was.
    Is a heavy pay to win game and in a big market with so many offers they should kiss old players that bring so much longevity to this game that should died long ago.
    Solutions,they need to :- give players what they want in creative section of forums, - make sections for other languages on forum, - make game simple
    -make the game less pay to win focus on selling mounts pets and costumes
    -diversity for builds, ice, fire, poison,bleeding based builds and new patch can bring lightning, andermagic =chaos based builds.
    -new mele character dps based not tank
    -guid war +guild hall
    -so many others can be Don but they always choose to not listen comunity
    They need to understand that is not wrong to copy some features from other games and implement them slightly difrent as long as community ask for them.
    Is wrong to keep new changes if players don't want them, is wrong to develop the game in wrong direction while so many players suggestion rotten on creative corner.
    Can you imagine what game could be if they have implemented only 1/3 suggestions from creative corners of course the one that 80% players agree with.? I think it could be a 30mil players game, but I guess they don't have so big servers for that, and that is why tey develop this way.
     
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  2. stacker99

    stacker99 Forum Master

    @trakilaki I have a question about items base stats. Are they same for differen colors? For example - green torso and legendary torso? I mean base stats with for example golden line? For same tier.
     
  3. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    wow doesn't depend on this principle, it has unique gear that is used in pvp, infact you can completely skip pvp content and you won't miss anything

    Raiders in wow can completely avoid pvp if they so desire

    This is true to some extent in here, and it would be truer if they made pve more in depth

    Trash games can get a few players from advertising, not advertising is counter to their goals
     
  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I have already answered that few times ...
    No.
    Regular gear can be upgraded in two ways (excluding level upgrade with GoP)
    1. they can be upgraded by tier
    2. they can be upgraded by rarity
    Based on this, they can be upgraded both by rarity and tier in same time.
    Here is one example of upgrading regular item by rarity:
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    As it can be seen the tier remained the same but the item got upgraded base stats by only upgrading the rarity from magic to extraordinary.
    Here is an example of upgrading item both by tier and rarity:
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    Unique items can upgrade only Tier ... but they have one advantage over regular items. They can be upgraded from one level to higher level . You can do that very easy with only one click ... regular items can upgrade level too but they will never reach the max level they will always be at least one level below the max.

    The game is still browser based and you don't have to install anything. I have re-installed my OS few days ago and never installed the game ... yet I can play it in browser.
    Neither do I have info/forum in my native language ... I never had. Yet I am not just reading but also providing info in English.
    Lets be honest ... 95% of everything in Creative Corner is BS.
     
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  5. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Im happy that you agree with the rest but i guess 3% of IE users can't be good for a browser game.
    and i speculate that more than 60% of player base don't know English , also tbh in creative corner are more than 30% good stuff and i mean all those suggestions made by people in posts i don't count only thread titles.I know that you don't agree with many of them but i think poll's should speak for that.
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    As about new changes i guess i will stay away from dso until inevitable it will have all servers empty , i will enter then to wipe my acc with tears in my eyes for all that time i have lost in this game...:mad::mad:.
     
  6. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    it's not lost time, it's time you used to have fun and why have tears? it's just an account on a mediocre game
     
  7. Demon

    Demon Forum Mogul

    Just kidding, I had good time with my guild, beautiful people, I wot forget that and I won't regret that. Such a shame that game has gone in a wrong direction.
    That was a strengtht of this game - is a group game in my opinion or should I say is better if you farm with team.
    They have came with new passive skills for group farm and that was a positive but also with tonics + elixire on TS and a big tree of knowledge to fill denieyng the fact that you allredy cap science so one good two bad in my opinion and that show me that BP will.never change, game don't worth to play and.....finish
    Now when I see on forum what is happening, how devs push bad changes to be accepted by players I know that I take the right decision.
    I already replaced this game I wait for new league but I read forum to see if what I predict about this game will come true, and elixires, tonics coming in game will be the first prediction confirmed and I have no doubt that many will follow.
    Is easy to predict what will do knowing how gredy they are is not a science.
    I hope they will understand someday that in arpg games community of players is all that matters.
    Is a heavy pay to win game and in my opinion they should make changes and bring new content preserving the value of accounts not nerfing them, if it have been a non pay to win game i would have no problem with them nerfing accounts.
    If they can make this game to be non pay to win that they can balance and bring content nerf of what ever they like because they will not erase your payments like they do now with gems or sapphires.
    Did someone get upset if they could not buy gems with real money and now they nerf them? I don't think so. Did someone get upset if they could not spend andermant for entrances at bosses and they bring new platinum enchants? I don't think so.
    Pets, mounts, costumes decorations for guild hall and many other cosmetic transactions can be enough but they are too gredy.
    Premium and deluxe on top of cosmetics can bring money too even is p2w there are many games that are payed with subscriptions and they manage very well.
    Nice game bad BP.
     
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  8. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    before level 55 the biggest problem is not having a horse so you are right about that. Once at level 55, in where the 99% of the game happens, you can get a bunch of pink items on parallel maps on painful mode and you can do some random crafts to get items like this.. in one day you can get all your items with 2 or 3 golden lines (you dont need uniques) and thats enough to clean maps pretty fast, at least on tier 1. The only problem could be the lack of gold for crafts but farming gold shouldn't be a big deal either

    actually i think the game will be excessively easy

     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2018
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  9. menestrelul

    menestrelul Someday Author

    I agree with the fact that the game will be much easier for newbies. I have in TS a very weak character. I went for 10 min in the Great dessert and made 110 gold and i bought the best tonic available from the Hiraja vendor. In one run q1 i made 43 gold. So any newbie will be able to do the same. let alone the fact that you can buy all the pets with 3000 gold.

    I was hoping that the years of work with my main character will mean something once i start farming on inf 3 for tonics and physics. Unfortunately that is not the case. I have 20k gold on my main character and i will buy directly 100 (200 hours of availability) tonics and physics and i will not bother with farming for them.

    In conclusion, farming for plants to make potions is usless at the moment.

    There are however 4 solutions for this problem:
    1. Make them very expensive in gold.
    2. Make them available to buy just with ander.
    3. Make available just normal potions/tonics/physics available, the improved ones should not be availalble for buying.
    4. this is the most radical solution. Make everything unavailable to buy. This will make everybody farm for them.
     
  10. petehink

    petehink Forum Greenhorn

    enjoy the update for PvE but allowing players only 1 or 2 entries to special dungeons per day makes no sense. Why go thru so much time with update and not allow players to really enjoy it?
     
  11. Paavelson

    Paavelson Junior Expert

    easy hahah look how hard you dodge with 4k damage. end of farming session your hand is sore as hell.
    smart people doesnt craft junk. everyperson goes for full platinum anyway.

    my hand will never be painful after farming in this game because i stoped playing this old junk. it doesnt gett better it goes further down the hill. and people seems to like it.
     
  12. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Why would you make suggestions in which 1 and 2 are anti- player and anti-fun ? So we have to craft again with almost tripple the price but also tonics to cost more , are insane or are you working for bp trying to screw us ?
     
  13. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    i have no problem with buying power with money, as long as money is only used a way to fasten the climb to the top and as long as that same top is reachable by free players
    the bp shills are out it seems

    They also seem to ignore the unjustifiable increase in the prices of runes from Zumpe, i guess inconvenient facts have to be swept under the rug for propaganda to work
     
  14. couda22

    couda22 Forum Commissioner

    R214_4:
    - prices of runes purchasable from Zumpe have been lowered: 800 -> 350, 600 -> 250, 400 -> 200
     
  15. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    I replied to this but I deleted it and now I dont know what to say but, seems like you didnt get it..
    you are not supposed to play with 4000 damage, I just made that video to show how easy the game will be if a noob char with just a couple of random legendary items can clear a tier 3 map. I could have made the video on tier 2 or 1 but that would have been boring.
     
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  16. couda22

    couda22 Forum Commissioner

    R214_2 - some difficulty factors have been adjusted:
    Painful - DMG: 200% -> 150%, HP: 400% -> 200%
    Excruciating - HP: 800% -> 400%
    Fatal - HP: 1200% -> 800%
     
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  17. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    you could have made that video in pw, but instead you chose not to.
    The reason is pw is much harder, I am certain you would be well aware of that, which is why you chose a scaling dungeon map.
    Added my build is a dk, so I am fully in the onslaught of the melee attacks from mobs etc, I can tell you this much however
    I am no q7 set user, however I have 8.5 times more damage than that build, and pw is not my playmate.
    I can currently solo certain maps on inf1, but q1 is a no go, the list goes on.

    Either way it is kind of logic that they want the people to get bored of pve, remember their battle royale pvp is their new main attaction
     
  18. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    I wanted to show how easy the 214 release will be for new -and old players. Map is parallel world eternal grove

    --now I see they adjusted difficulty levels so fatal in r214 is excruciating in r212 (monsters hp 800%) but anyway people will be able to farm parallel worlds tier 1 or 2 on their first day at level 55 -or whatever the level they are at
     
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  19. cdeepal

    cdeepal Forum Baron

    Still not good enough. To get to the same rate as our characters on live servers acquire runes now, costs should be further lowered. Half of what is currently in test (half from the new costs) sound reasonable to me.

    Melts are fine. I noticed that Blue and Legendary items now yield about 30% more melts. And extraordinary items now yield about 80% more melts? am I right?
    So collecting melts and upgrading equipment after the update is going to be much easier.

    Gold is fine too. Items now sell for more gold, so players would be able to collect more gold. This justifies crafting price increase. So, I am ok with that.

    Reducing the difficulty of Painful mode by a lot is also good for newbies. Infernal levels are still the same and Infernal IV is now a bit harder. which is also fine.

    Also, I see now the crafting quests seems to have been fixed. I was able to advance on the Crafting quests.

    Also, I am not too worried about the new maps/areas. I suspect there may be a surprise factor that the developers may have disabled some of the content to give a surprise to the players. I hope that is the case. :D

    Now the biggest remaining issue is conversion for runes.
     
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  20. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    And the fact that PvP is still broken...
     
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