Mythic level uniques

for single target; 250% AoE.

why? That cloak gives only burning effect on EA if I don't miss something, so 2030%. or not?

Sorry but where did you take this "2,041"?

no: SS is -20% and bombs are -10% * 5; they are different and stack with others, if the enemy hasn't any %armour empowerment (like often happens on minibosses and always bosses) armour becomes negative and you deal higher damage than you have (tested).

 

yeah, and since most people care about boss dps (cause mobs are not an issue 99% of the time especially for AoE skills.

2100% without, 2130% with adamant magma.

It's armor break. From 40% of your damage dealt (60% boss mitigation) to 81,64% of your damage dealt (18,36% boss mitigation).

81,64% / 40% = 2,041‬

Great that scatter and bombs exist but EA + Asar or Rocket + Asar reduce armor by more than 100% and that's enough.
Negative armor is already reported and confirmed as a bug and I ignored it for that exact reason.

 

Which is why @Slabutul9 aka Proto is busy petitioning that bleed refreshes and stacks when you apply it again
If you go a few weeks back you will see I have been looking at builds from other ARPGS and DOT is insanely good
come back to dso and no we dont do 6600% base per second for 15 minutes without touching a boss
If you take that into consideration then, yes that torso is OP
Ofc when a person petitions for dot from bleed to stack and refresh, other dots would be included such as burn, cold, poison.
I know that its not in game but I have always felt like electric attacks should have dot too

It was easier to revert to the wiki than to go through our arguments wiki is outdated ofc but its a good indication
Anyways as for that staff for mages no just no
the second explosion only does 100% of your base damage its not a second sphere, it is just a second minor explosion
I wanted to call it an implosion instead but took into consideration that it might be hard to make and even understand

Anyways just randomly between everything else
if dot did stack you would get a max of 16 stacks dealing up to 800% of your base per second in burn

The point is that, that armor break is included in their spam skill
Quickly just for arguments sake imagine fs and smash did the same
What do you get?

its only an option, mecs have the ability to last longer and they can get away from a lot of bad things and pack a punch while doing so
its not made to replace anything other than creat skills diversity and I am certain many mecs will use it
secondly I did not know the punch only happens once per second but it would come in at 360% base per punch

Also I dont think they can use heavy shot 5.13 times per second
it might look like that from the triple shot, however heavyshot is a 33 frame skill
in other words even if q7 reduces its frames by 50% it would be a 16.5 frame skill in other words at over 3.437 attack speed they would do 4 hs per second
however now this weapon shoots 2x and hs remains a 33 frame skill, except if you plan a build with that chameleon cloak I made, then the numbers change because you can craft the grenade protector to the cloak and that would increase hs speed by 16%
Which would make it a 27.5 frame skill
which could push a mec to shoot 3x triple shots per second <- didnt calc and I could be wrong
However remember if you take the chameleon cloak into consideration then that weapon ofc on the other hand could be crafted to that cloak which would double the dps of hs during q7 and just have cooldown free hs outside of q7 buff and double shot xD
and ofc once again if you take my dot plans into consideration the torso for mecs is once again pretty potent and not useless at all

 

You misunderstood - I meant 4 spheres is another free sphere IN TOTAL (4 x [60 + 350 + 100] not as 4 x [60 + 350 + 350]).
Still beyond broken considering they add these uniques but not stacking dots.

These uniques would be barely used and only temporarily which doesn't achieve your goal.

Still 1/3 of what SMs do normally now.

 

And sometimes (often to some bosses) some mobs intercept the attack so bosses are affected by the AoE dmg and not the direct hit.​

ok… then why not 2000% 4 EA * 500%, or with the last speedbreak they aren't 4 but 4.2 as you wrote? Then we always forget the burning effect on net (q7 gloves) which is another 33% to add.

Ok I thought that I wanted to be sure, thank you, but these are old numbers they are now a bit different since r220, I calculated them (still approximated, I need other tests) now armour value is around 11250 (63-64%) during the first phase, higher in the second and third.

BTW, maybe I am too rigid but I don't think it's correct to evaluate break-armour in this way because it modifies mitigation not the base dmg of the skills: our output dmg is always the same, armour and resistances are external factors that don't depend on us; to me is better to calculate our output damage as they have 0 arm/res and then consider the mitigation, which is different (minibosses have higher armour than bosses, not calculated sentinels).

False because if you consider minibosses and sentinels asar's pet doesn't work (maybe on sentinels yes, I haven't tried), and if you consider bosses the break-armour works only during the second phase when they get an armour empowerment as I said before, so you won't reach the 100% reduction: they get something like +30% and you first remove this buff and then you break the armour: -85% (skills) -18% (asar) +30% (boss' buff) = -73% so you need them and it isn't enough to reach -100%, only in groups you can that.

Sorry to say this but I think you have to correct your numbers.

 

Are you blaming on DSO Wiki for your shortcomings?
Some articles are outdated but most of them are not, and we are giving our best to find spare time and update the old ones. That is only how much we can do considering the huge team of one person and few helpers now and then.
You are frequently using it but you yourself, have never found a time to contribute there

My words?
Are you a psychic or something. How do you know those are my words? Have you checked your facts?

As you can see ... those are not my words. In fact I believe that text was the background on rangers from the old website (the one that was gazillion times better than the new one) on which a lot of useful info and miscs could be found.
But that predates your time by centuries ... you couldn't have known there was a cool DSO home page in the past.

Please don't show me ... you haven't explored fully even the DK class you are playing let alone the ranger class for which you are ignorant as much as you can be.
One does not use DB to deal damage over time.

That bow is new kind of bow ... it is not a shortbow, it is not a longbow and it is not a hoaxbow. What is it?
Those grizzly teddy bears are one example you need a proper playing experience XD
"50% of your HP" ... in example the Wooded Wraith is being killed in one hit without even being properly summoned. Do you know how much HP the Wooded Wraith has?
Therefore you unique enchantment is 0 - NULL - void XD

 

which would explain why my rs looks so damn fast atm
well not all of them could be as good as the others
that is how it has been for all classes and is even now
but these items arent finalized and written in stone
as an example

or this

I mean I would rather be helped to make these items viable and not broken more than anything else

You are very right, and I could have and at times wanted to contribute there.
I do not blame you for having a life, as you said most of it is up to date.
And apologies i did not mean any offense towards you btw
What do you think of that bow?
Edit:
Sorry didnt see the last bit
Funny story about that bow huh
then would you say 100% of your hp is enough?
No I do not know how much hp the wraith has xD

 

Net has much less uptime than EA burn which is why i didnt include it.

Which is EXACTLY why im ignoring it - explain that to mr. phyrix over there.

you never listen, do you? I already explained to you almost half a year ago that 2.3 attack speed is not 2.3 RSs but it was more than 3 RSs per second and now you're shocked?

Maybe before you try to design items you should try understanding the game.

 

it has good hp (with 5p talent) but it looks like it has some problems with arm/res stats to die so fast even with the 5p. Another bug or intended? Idk anymore what is a bug and what not here

 

lol not shocked
However i was under the impression that im doing 4 rs per second on 3.333
being wrong is not a sin xD
Assumptions is the mother of?
so its cool

 

Hey, maybe i am out of place to say all this but i have been watching this thread for a while and, i really like the fact that Someone is coming up with ideas to make the game more fun. please do not stop doing that! even of your idea is incomplete or if some people think it is trash, don't let it affect you! use it to refine your ideas. We need more amazing people like Phyrix that put so much effort into trying to save this game for us. Love you dude, even though you are kind of a troll. I still LOVE YOU!!

THANKS

 

Tyvm xD
I think I have learned to take the criticism and learned to adapt the items xD
Edit:
I know, look I know its OP okay
It really is, but my head gets really creative at these hours
So it hit me
I know the consequences of this item for most classes
You will say it is OP
I dont care
I love these friggin gloves!!!

I tried to think of a negative effect such as moving resets the buff or non crits resets it or lowers the stack by one
After thinking about it for 30 minutes I just decided bugger the negatives
I want these gloves
Not to make q4 equal to q7
These gloves, they make the idea about the game exciting
think about it, q7 rangers would opt for bloodrune
q4 dks would get a boost
mages would finally experience true power with fireball
and so many classes can use this on so many skills
So I made them like this -_-
I dont care about the consequences -_-
They are awesome -_-
Plus anyways I did do some maths today
if my items from this thread gets implemented and Protos idea for stacked and refreshing bleeding gets implemented without these gloves q7 will reach 2040% base while q4 would achieve 1760% base per second
However with 5 attack per second being possible with these gloves
lets see xD
150*15 = 2250/3 = 750 + 1450 = 2200% base per second
Q7 Beaten
the 2250 is from the torso and q4 smashes combined
You will be able to do banner every 10 seconds with these gloves ofc
I dont see these gloves as being class locked so...
Yes mages will do much more damage, rangers can break from q7 if they build high conc
the wep from here combined with these gloves for mecs yes it would be OP
Yes mages will be able to do 5 fs per second
And hell yes rangers will be able to do 5 ea per second
and 1h players when these gloves gets combined with ghost jewels on yellow level will get 250% increased damage and 5 hits per second on 20 frame skills
I STILL DONT CARE
I FRIGGIN LOVE THESE GLOVES
@.RakshaRanja. I saved your breakpoint chart this time
Hey @trakilaki
I had a discussion with @Hetsunien
He advised me on the unique modifier
Since that other bow cannot so to speak be made real in this game
I did something else
I took a longbow and removed the crit from it and then because it has no crit I gave it the ghost bows' base
I mean this would make sense because if a long bow had that level of damage, it cannot have that level of crit too.
However this enables the long bow to have 20% conc reduction too. <- yes its a long bow
So here goes xD

And the answer is mythical level uniques have insane stats, and unique modifiers

Well I am editing this so as to not triple reply on my replies but, I dont know if you have seen traki but more recently I was making a melee ranger and yes I agree, db actually needs lets say ie 5% hp regen per crit for rangers to make rangrs melee viable at all
@trakilaki I would like your opinion on this
I know you have played this game for a very very long time.
And I see you as one of the master gurus in dso
I believe you have been only an asset to bp and I feel like many older players have gotten negative with the direction this game has taken in many aspects.
I hope that the CE will lighten your heart and well lets see what tomorrow brings.

actually this is exactly what I was thinking, iow you now what herald cloak does with fireball