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  1. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    They wanted to "bridge the gap" and instead of building a better bridge that has reinforced mounting on both sides, they're blowing the "bridge" to smithereens to create an impossible to cross chasm.
     
  2. blackassam

    blackassam Forum Expert

    So once again. This change will create another time constraint in the game, where I have to get there if I want the resources of RL to be able to run in the next event. Given the condition that a player plays two hours of average (based on my runs) a day, then he should not have a problem with the fact that he has insufficient RL ... only if he mismanaged farm. Being just people and this game is not our job to get here in these tight times for RL gain so I take it as a major obstacle and some of the discrimination they intend to create.
    I perceive this as a major problem, another set time for a set event. I play DSO regularly if possible, but some days I don't get here because of other duties.
    And if there is a clear time to get RL resources and another clear time to play the event, then I get to the point where I find that I am incapable of playing these events due to lack of RL. Everyday farming is possible to accumulate the required amount, but it is not only to accumulate, but mainly to continue to manage RL. And what I feel about players who have tens of thousands of RFs is their reward for spending too much time in the game against other players. In a way, it is their reward - the tax for the time they lose here, so what should I have to blame them. These players will not put this change to their knees because they will do their 10 hours of daily game work here. So that the balance misses its activity and affects only regular players.
    By normal playing and proper management, I am able to define a sufficient number of RLs for events so I can fulfill them and in the sense that I will limit some events to the minimum necessary to preserve the resources for the most important events. Therefore, this gap will be much bigger those who sit here anyway do not feel this, those who sit enormous time while playing so they get the same amount of RL so it does not limit and does not balance to other players .... impact on ordinary players who are limited when they can get into the game. This is a bad policy and a balance won't bring this. The possibility would be for the RL drop to be triggered concurrently with the event that this is about, but that would totally deny the policy for its discounted sale it offers for the event. Alternatively furthermore, it would be a simple logic to have an entry event for free entry applied to the cloak. You only play weekend or limited, you can pay and play the event and for this convenience. Or you don't pay because you have enough time to manage the event.
    What would help logically better plan events ... not like last year when four months were dead and then triggered several consecutive events that required an RL entry condition.
     
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  3. KingsGambit

    KingsGambit Forum Expert

    Sorry dude but this time I don't understand you. Do you use translator?
     
  4. blackassam

    blackassam Forum Expert

    @KingsGambit
    Yes, I apologize for any misunderstandings. I'm not a native speaker.
     
  5. DBS-Flamelurker

    DBS-Flamelurker Exceptional Talent

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  6. KingsGambit

    KingsGambit Forum Expert

    Me neither :p I figured out meaning of some sentences but not all so I sadly won't continue discussion in fear of missunderstandings. Hate those :(:p
     
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  7. Theusen

    Theusen Padavan

    I dunno what the entire playercommunity is complaining so much about here...

    So BP took away the realmfragdrops! -Look on the bright side here: At least they told us they would ruin the game this way in advance this time! U gatta be happy about them finally being honest and telling us this time!!!

    -Did they tell us in advance when they took away our anderdrops in r220? And didnt they compensate with a catpet, that dont work?
    -Did they tell us in advance when they stole our bought-for-real-money-sapphires? And didnt they give us runes in return that is so worthless its really a joke?
    -(insert countless other times they did stuff like this in the past here)

    My advice? Be thankful and grateful that BP actually told us this time in advance, an entire full day in advance!!!

    Cuz BP? -they listen 2 the playercommunity's needs and desires when playing their game! -They make up problems like the problem with active, honest and legit people earning more entrances by playing their game actively, honestly and letgitly and then they punish those active, honest and legit players for playing DSO as well they should! -How dare they be active, honest and legit??? I'd say: BAN em! BAN EM ALL! -its the ONLY way theyll learn!

    And BPs solution 2 the problem they invented? -They are now gunna make pre-events, where U can grind stuff 4 the mainevent, that U gatta grind 2 get stuff for Ur toon!

    -Lets all phraise BP 4 their infinite wisdom and constantly solving problems in this game thats so flawless that BP actually have 2 invent problems, just so there is something they can fix!


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    U can say a LOT bout them germans, but they REALLY know how to make good stuff! -Dont they? -Yall have a nice day, now, U feel me? =o)
     
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  8. eduardoxeneize

    eduardoxeneize Someday Author

    two hours poking around in the great desert and only "4 fragments between worlds", we are on the right track
     
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  9. cigarbennett

    cigarbennett Old Hand

    hmmm Just did one test run Mt Suvious PW. I got ZERO realm frags. Granted was only one run, but Realms are non existent now. Bigpoint did not learn their lesson from the Christmas Mini event when players could not play for lack of Infernal passes. At this drop rate no one will be able to play DTU which took around 5k realm frags, nor anniversary event. Players will be lucky to have enough realm frags to do the Moon events twice a month. No idea what Bigpoint is thinking, If players don't have realm frags they can not play. If they can not play they won't be selling event attire. Nor will they be selling ander for essence etc..... oh well when the realm frags are gone they are gone I guess. Bye bye DTU and Anniversary event. To bad I kind of enjoyed them was fun to do with my friends.

    Well one run not a true test. So update,,,, 4 hours play got 7 realm frags lol... Players can not even do Moon events with this drop rate. Let alone DTU and Anniversary events. Why does Bigpoint just continue to shoot themselves in the foot????? They just bewilder me.

    hmmm well that is 6 hours play and got 13 realm frags. At that rate I would have to play 150 hours just to do one New moon... smh Not happy here not happy at all.
     
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  10. Dzungla

    Dzungla Forum Expert

    Noticed that too, so I compare costs last night and today :

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    Nothing spec!

    About new RL:

    • I am glad that resistance base stats 90%+ got their color back.
    • I am sad that realm fragments drop rate has been reduced ... in such drastic way. Weaker players will always have a problem to get them, on that new "RF event" same as while farm normal, painful up to exo, so I don't get the point.
    • Dragan is back, that's cool!
      • Progress will be doable for everyone - nice.
      • Achievements will took years (not official announcement :D) - well, someone could say that is good (boredom kingdom starts after all is done, am I right).
      • Event improvements
        • random entrances on maps - good, new.
        • Inf 4 farm for free - good.
        • Solo runs for new maps - I remember leachers since ... always, so maybe this will make someone to improve his/her toon instead being carried all the time.
        • New equipment - this is just thought but what if they are planning (in not so near future) to prepare us for bonus-less sets/items
     
  11. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    There's no issue with people with a large number of realm fragments, that's the reality of the situation.

    They simply want to scr*w over the players and those getting scr*wed are going those who farmed, but those who lack the resources.
    And the justification they offered was idiotic, it was beyond stupid.
    And they even lied.

    How can you defend them?
     
  12. cogix

    cogix Regular

    this new way to nerf realm frag drop sounds like:
    too many playes can finish events, let's make their life harder: less chance to complete the event and if they want to complete it, they have to spend real $$$ to buy entrances or the $$$ cape
     
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  13. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Forum Commissioner

    2hrs of farm = 3 frags :)


    If its like this, might aswell completely remove them from droptable...
     
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  14. Redkiller12

    Redkiller12 Forum Great Master

    So,I did some runs on fbi painful yesterday and today to test the drop:
    • Yesterday:10-14 realm fragments per run on average.
    • Today:0-2 realm fragments per run.
    I don't know if it's my luck but today I can't find more than 1 drop of RF (quantity either 1 or 2) and most of the runs ended with 0 drops.

    That's a big difference, it feels like frags have the same drop of adermants.

    You said that you are going to run a new looter's for frags. It should AT LEAST make the drop of frags BETTER that it was before rel228.

    You said that you made this -mess- change to bridge the gap between those who have unlimited frags with those that struggle to keep up with frags events. How exactly?

    People that have limited frags are those who don't have all the day long to play this game(job,studies etc) and are probably playing 1-2-3 hours max per day or only at weekends.The looter event will happen on a specific time.These people have already a difficult time to log in the game so those that can't play on that specific day they're screwed, aren't they?

    This change feels totally unnecessary and the reasonings you made are completely ridiculous and laughable.
     
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  15. Monkey

    Monkey Forum Great Master

    The old players who played for days accumulated more than 100 thousand fragments, I have no more than 500, so what kind of justice are we talking about? Maybe you just need to limit the maximum available number of fragments for the player? With this approach, I will not play this game. It makes no sense for me to spend my time in the game since I cannot accumulate the necessary resource (fragments).
     
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  16. sargon234

    sargon234 Commander of the Forum

    You see, after they heavily monetized events, they are now trying to heavily monetize access to them and access to event resources.
     
  17. elitecrew1031

    elitecrew1031 Regular

    The drop of realm fragments is almost non-existent 2 hours of playing q3 inf3 with finish time around 4:00 minutes i got around 50 realm fragments, should I concider myself lucky ? Last DTU event took me around 6500 fragments to unlock the chests I wanted so I have to play around 130 hours (without the new event that God only knows how much will last and when) also excluding new/full moon events and events like anniversy/halloween that also you have option to spend your fragments instead of hard grindng. Hope BP fixes his mistake or atleast increase the drop of realm fragments because it is a shame for 2 hours to earn more premium cubes than realm fragments
     
  18. eduardoxeneize

    eduardoxeneize Someday Author

    @elitecrew1031 2 hours you should consider yourself lucky, I in 2 hours only 4
     
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  19. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Dont you love some realm fragments drop reduction right after summer anders drop reduction?
    "Less realm fragment events" - yeah about that ...
    Did you (developers) slept through last 4 Defeat the (Dragan) Undefeatable events? Did you slept through anniversary? Maybe you slept through you adding boss ports for realm fragments as well? Do you really think anybody with more than 4 IQ will believe in this pitiful excuse?

    But nah man you cant blame DSO dev team members for that, its toxic. They are clearly not the ones to blame for that.

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    Thank you Bigpoint Games - for caring about your players in general but especially people who helped you with FORGING this community. These who stuck for 8 years supporting you either with free publicity, new players flow or financialy and this is how you repay your most passionate, dedicated and faithful players.

    Sad.
     
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  20. KingsGambit

    KingsGambit Forum Expert

    Guys chill out. Let's wait for looters. If it's going to rain cats and realm spheres than everything is fine ;) We have only seen bad part of change and you already dragging bp through the mud. Until we see Looters we can't evaluate change properly. Keep the bullets for time they are needed :D
     
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