Warrior class overpowered

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  1. Equalizerxx

    Equalizerxx Forum Greenhorn

    Hello fellow players,
    I just wanted to bring to everyone's attention how much the warrior class is significantly stronger than the other classes (dwarf, ranger, mage) due to (i suppose bugged, or not working as intended) mechanic "light damage stack."
    As many of you may know, this mechanic is not working as intended and is actually increasing the warrior's damage output by a much larger percentage than it should be.
    As a result, the warrior class is able to output almost three times the damage of the ranger class. This is extremely unbalanced and makes it nearly impossible for other classes to compete with the warrior in terms of damage.
    I know that the developers are always working to balance the game, but this issue needs to be addressed, it's already been so many years now... It's not fair to other players who have invested time and effort into their character, only to have them constantly outshined by the overpowered warrior class.
    I hope that this issue can be fixed in a future patch. In the meantime, I encourage other players to bring this issue to the attention of the developers and to speak up if they have also noticed the warrior class being overpowered due to the bugged light damage stack.
    Thank you for reading.
     
  2. bigdawg

    bigdawg Forum Greenhorn

    or u can just stack light for them.
     
  3. ManaThief

    ManaThief Advanced

    What in the devil's name are you talking about? There is light damage in the game? Did you mean some sort of lightning stack? Or did you mean breaking lightning resistance?
     
  4. Equalizerxx

    Equalizerxx Forum Greenhorn

    you know perfectly well what i'm talking about even tho my english is not the best, if you can correct me please do so that might help me to share my thoughts and others to understand better.
    For reference look this video:
    This war is able to output 5m dmg effortlessly with GREEN essence, a maxed ranged on the other hand can barely get to 2M counting main dmg + splash dmg of deadly blow with BLUE, and this is solo play, not even group play.
    My thanks if you will be able to better explain the problem!
     
  5. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    OMG! Really!!!???




    My main toon is a DK, with all imperial or better gems, legendary runes and all my jewels are at least magic or better.. And I CANT do either of these fights as easily as this mage and ranger do them. Cry somewhere else!
     
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  6. Equalizerxx

    Equalizerxx Forum Greenhorn

    Dude you obv dont understand the problem, your class can easily stack light and do a lot of unbalanced damage, even mage and dwarf can do that in a slight way but still LESS, rangers straight up CANT, that makes them useless on Mortis, or any other long boss fight where u cant brake armor or resistance.

    If you want a fair and balanced game, you either nerf warrior or buff the other classes, cuz a warrior cant have at the same time the max dps and the max endurance of the game.

    Look for example this event going on right now, take into consideration that the 4 classes are all maxed and with the right build, make them brake one machine each at the same time and the result is:
    - warrior will be ahead of dwarf, with a decent margin
    - dwarf will do better than mage
    - ranger does one by the time warrior does 2, (yes it is like this).

    Also, your insight isn't helpful, since you are just new to the game and you are comparing your character that is on a different level with other characters, you can only compare yourself with others when all the gems and jewels are maxed and you use the best equipment for the class, only then you can have a fair and square comparison
     
  7. ManaThief

    ManaThief Advanced

    I genuinely have no clue.

    I don't see anything that would resemble a bug.
     
  8. gintarszb

    gintarszb Junior Expert

    He talking about "dancing" and sure about using lightning mastery ,stacks etc.
    For ranger need to start " dance" :D if he wanna increase damage ..and only ranger have disadvantage in the Rocket Event.

    "Blade dancing" that super annoying game mechanics for me as ranger... and my friend dwarf with less base damage, just more "effective" than me in the event.

    And warrior ..he just standing, absorbing hits and killing fast...without any "dancing" almost same as dwarf and mage(only "dancing" to evade bombs ).
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2023
  9. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Duke

    I only see a warrior who knows how to get the most out of his character, he uses green essences, but also 2 active buffs (probably damage) and takes advantage of the buff (50% damage and attack speed) from pvp swords, plus the buff attack speed over 4, that deals 100% damage. if you know how to recognize active icons you can imagine where all that damage is coming from.
    To prove what you claim, you should show a video of other classes (with the same stats as your warrior) while is hitting a baby machine ;)
    Surely on baby machines you have to use lightning damage because it is the only buff they suffer ;)
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  10. Equalizerxx

    Equalizerxx Forum Greenhorn

    please, dont say pointless things like this one, all the damage comes from the light stacks without them he does standard dmg.
     
  11. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Duke

    maybe you are right, but if you watch other videos of the same warrior you will notice that the damage isn't op, probably there is a bug on the baby machine with the warrior's skill, but the important thing is that the event has improved, look how it was 3 years ago ;)
     
  12. DocWhisky

    DocWhisky Forum Mogul

    For your information, I started playing this game 10 years ago...Took a year and half off and have been back just over a year. I play a few hours a day. In all time I have played there has always been some crybaby on here screaming this archetype is OP or that archetype is OP. Just play your toon.. if you dont like it, play a different one. Just stop crying!!!
     
  13. JarFall2000

    JarFall2000 Forum Apprentice

    there should be a level converter
     
  14. belata75

    belata75 Forum Greenhorn

  15. gintarszb

    gintarszb Junior Expert

    ..DK 's 5M dmg on green vs Ranger's 4M on red.. just cool :eek:
     
  16. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Duke

    yes, the 2h weapon makes more damage thanks to the swords buff +50% attack speed.

    Now I understood where is the bug...
    the warrior uses the skill: ground breaker, so he takes advantage of the armor break (which shouldn't work) and he can start from 1 million damage up to 5 million ;)
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  17. NicuuChu

    NicuuChu Someday Author

    no dude, its just the way warrior works with light stacks, it is like this with other bosses and Mortis too, if it were the "armor break" the problem, then even other classes attacking along with the warrior would have a damage enhancement and that is not the case. Its just the way elemental light mastery works on wars
     
  18. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Duke

    I don't know the warrior class and I trust what I read.
    If the "ground" breaks the armor and the "iron brow" breaks armor and resistances, but the master of lightning turns physical damag into elemental damage, why to work it needs a break armor and not break resistence? is there something wrong with the description or something that does what it's not supposed to do.
    if breaking armor and resistances doesn't work on baby machines, then the warrior should start from the pure elemental damage and not the one given after breaking the armor.
    this creates an imbalance with the other classes when fight the baby machines that are immune to breaking.
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  19. gintarszb

    gintarszb Junior Expert

    https://www.velveteenduck.com/dso-database/helmet-of-the-black-knight .
    Tip for calculations.. Mythical Dragan Set : Ground breaker give bonus to smash, Lightning Mastery , stacks all that helping DK...btw he using 2 parts of "WC" set :) + 25% dmg..
    Anyway for other classes Dragan set working with different skills , when smash working as main dmg skill , with lightning mastery and with Dragan set. So DK favored here.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2023
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  20. EmilyRose

    EmilyRose Forum Duke

    I did my calculations and if I consider the mythical dragan set bonus +100% damage, I get:

    336344 ( ground break damage 100% ) : 100 = 3363,44
    3363,44 x 275 ( smash damage +/- 275% ) = 924946
    924946 x 2 ( bonus set damage +100% ) = 1849892

    so there is no bug ;)