Make Lightning Strike 100 % damage in all area and upgrade Magic Virtuoso

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  1. skillarea1

    skillarea1 Active Author

    can DSO make AOE of lightning strike 100% in all area, not 100 % (250 power lightning) on center and 40% (100 power of lightning) on fraction

    we are hard to hit moving target and when we hits , its just take fraction damage, its make me depressed
    because lightning strike is easy to avoid, more mana, have delay is unreliable so dont make this skill unreliable for power too

    like fire ball and presicion shot, they dont have minor damage, it can hit player even that skill is not hit me, just like 0,5 meters almost hit

    reduce area of meteor ( flaming inferno) from about 11-10 meters to 6-7 meters is no body mage is complain so skill for talent pvp Magic virtuoso can be upgraded for more faster meteor like 66%/55% reduce delay or add 2-3 meters for this skill because reduce area of meteor

    sorry for my english
     
  2. Zokin

    Zokin Forum Expert

    First of all, if you are using lighting strike in pvp and you have hard time with it, try lvl-up/switch to pvp skill "Magical virtuoso" idk why do you need "faster meteor" hit when with this lightning/meteor have allready nearly 0 delay impact. If that wont work for you, then dont use lightnings, use fireballs. And this needs to be pointed too, meteor aoe is allready reduced in r113(or 114 i do not recall exactly)..
     
  3. Bearak

    Bearak Active Author

    This is same with ranger skill Predator(the eagle) you can and avoid it.
     
  4. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    I don't really understand much of what he is saying. Cast and delay speeds should remain the same. But to hit 100% of a Lightning Strike, enemy has to be DIRECTLY in the center-point, no leniency whatsoever... it is very hard to do. Many have 35 Fame and escape, many have Defiance and are un-stunned before lightning hits. All they have to do is walk 1 step and they take considerably less damage. I think the 100% damage range should be increased so that taking 1 or 2 steps wouldn't make the skill useless. I can understand taking almost no damage when someone is almost out of range... but when they are way close to the center they should be taking more damage. Have you noticed that few players actually use Lightning in PvP anymore? That's because lightning no longer hits decent damage...
     
  5. Talicni

    Talicni Forum Connoisseur

    But you have no problem exploiting 2 stuns while no1 in the arena has the determination fame skill to hit direct with both lightning, dmg % is fairly distributed...

    Besides on high pvp 90% of mages switch all their xp and pvp skills in advantage of fireball with that huge hit box.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2014
  6. sper009

    sper009 Padavan

    You can also cast Fireballs off screen, which I do not think is possible with Lightning. Lightning can be very effective in 3v3 when using obstacles or in 5v5 when people are less concerned with dodging. I remember the good 'ole days before all of the stun breaks, using Lightning was very effective.
     
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  7. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    2 Stuns, Talicni? You're saying I should stand within 3 meters of someone (dangerous distance for a mage) use my Frost Wind, use Lightning Strike, and also use Frost Nova (a stun-breaker... leaving me with just Teleport which I will have to use because, surely, anyone that survived my "all out" attack will do the same to me)
    Stun-locking has pretty much vanished because everyone now uses Liberation and would just jump away out of stun range. Overall REALLY bad strategy... I doubt it can get worse than that. Well, it can. Teleporting next to someone before, then Frost Wind, Lightning, and then Frost Nova to make sure they stay in place. This is a deathwish.

    Almost all mages swap to Fireball setup when doing PvP. Costs 100 andermant without Premium which is really annoying because the other classes just have a setup that works well in both PvP and PvE and yet mages have to switch between all the time. Fireball is really crap in PvE and Lightning is really crap in PvP.
     
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  8. sper009

    sper009 Padavan

    That is one of the main reasons I purchased Premium was because of the cost of constantly switching my trees between the 2 modes. Lightning became pretty useless in comparison to Fireball when they introduced all of the stun breaks.
     
  9. Talicni

    Talicni Forum Connoisseur

    You have 2 stuns when dk and rangers get their first one, then i don't know what you do in arena since you go for lightning i don't know how you hit them without stuns, and i said arena before lvl25 fame, where you can't miss lightning since no1 has determination pvp skill yet.

    Ok yes bad strategy cause i see you are a victim here, you go all out hitting both lightning strikes and if they are alive they will most surely continue to stand in place trying to kill you not to jump back and go to safe ground to avoid incoming fireballs, but cause you will have your teleport only, you are saying to me you are not capable making a kill in that situation? wow
     
  10. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    I can, but the game doesn't revolve around 1 kill. What happens when their teammate comes?

    With Lightning setup Fireball becomes weak and loses it's most important aspect... the burn. Also with Magical Virtuoso, one can't have the 33% increased travel speed of missiles so they become pretty slow.

    I will say that Lightning can be useful if someone changes talents for it, has good attack speed, and devotes time to learn and improve.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2014
  11. Talicni

    Talicni Forum Connoisseur

    Again returning to my first sentence where i said before 25 and there you went talking about 33% increased missile speed :p

    Ok you want mage to be able to kill all 3 at once? Instakilling 1 makes it 2v3 and you have teammates too, the topic was never about how when you make kill cause of double stun and upgraded lightning you face situation where some1 else can kill you.
     
  12. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    It was just a reply to your question on whether or not I can make a kill after I've used stuns and have used lightning. I wasn't aware we were talking about below 25 fame... I thought you we're an endgame player and as such would refer to level 40 fame as the default.

    At 25 fame things change. May as well say there is no fame at all because at level 25 skills are pretty much unaffected (aside from slight damage increases) However, that is to say that Lightning is only effective below 25 fame which is a short time.

    It's way different at an endgamer's point of view. Would Lightning be OP? Yes, if it's full-damage radius is too high. Say, it hit full damage whether you were at centerpoint or the farthest extent of the circle, that would be OP. I'm just saying that the radius for full damage should be slightly increased because at this moment one has to be directly at the center. A small nudge, even by lag, can reduce damage considerably.
     
  13. Fatalaty

    Fatalaty Advanced

    thats true.. and you become from me a like :)
     
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