2H VS 1H for PvP

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Is a 2H DK a viable option in PvP?

  1. Not at all

    35.6%
  2. Yes, all the time

    20.0%
  3. 1v1, Yes

    35.6%
  4. 1v1, No

    11.1%
  5. 3v3, Yes

    37.8%
  6. 3v3, No

    11.1%
  7. 5v5, Yes

    20.0%
  8. 5v5, No

    17.8%
  9. 6v6, Yes

    22.2%
  10. 6v6, No

    15.6%
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  1. Master0fpuppets

    Master0fpuppets Forum Baron

    You are wrong, very wrong. How can you speak in my name that I did not use 2-H weapon in PvP when we are not even on a same server? I did use 2-H weapon in PvP and it bad, very bad. What's with how long I play? If you realy wanna know, I started 28.06.2013
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  2. Mal3ficent

    Mal3ficent Guest

    @Master0fpuppets stay on topic and refrain from personal qualifications towards other users.
    Do not reply to this message.
     
  3. buhurrr

    buhurrr Someday Author

    I guess 2H would be viable option for 3v3 and 1v1, it just depends on your strategy in PvP vs the opponents play-style. If you can dodge and wear your opponents hp down and/or wait for the right skill cooldowns u can end the fight in 1hit. However this takes a lot of discipline play, and in the top ranks you will lose most of the time against skilled players of similar level money/farm investment. I dont mean everyone ofc

    Personally as a 1H dk i'd never use 2h in a tough pvp fight, using cloaked wrath and a high damage/crit build is unbeatable because you have similar 2h damage although shield makes all the difference.
     
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  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    OK ... and what about rangers? All rangers are using 2H weapons. Both short and long bow are 2H. Does that mean rangers are not successful in pvp?
     
  5. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Difference is that both are treated like 1H weapons... the always get a choice of "off hand item." Imagine a 2H DK that had a back shield like Robert Rampage had during the last defend event. No one would chose a 1H DK build then.
     
  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Yes that is true.
    Anyway it is the same 1H or 2H ... the only difference is you have to adopt to different style of playing.
     
  7. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    Dmg is not all Goodmood:)
     
  8. GamesShortCut

    GamesShortCut Exceptional Talent

    Yea dmg It is not all. That is true. I still die pretty fast, compare to my siblings with shild...
    which meeaaaaaans:
    I NEED MORE POWER! MUCH MORE! *DMG IS EVERYTHING*
    (just joking)
     
  9. daywaker2

    daywaker2 Forum Demigod

    Search a very nice shield+kahlys wepon or 3x30% 1x30dmg one hand then u good:) and use your 2hand for farming only)
     
  10. GamesShortCut

    GamesShortCut Exceptional Talent

    hm.... 2hand for everything :D
     
  11. heycya

    heycya Forum Apprentice

    PvP games that have no respawn, NO WAY.
    Games with respawn, doesn't matter, 2h, 1h, are all good. It depends on gear choice, like say if your armor was at 50-70% reduction, and magic defense was at 50-70%.

    Only then will I think there will be no need for a shield, now you focus on HP and get it to high 8000's (If possible I don't know I am only level 40 DK.) And then you've got your self a killing machine.
     
  12. heycya

    heycya Forum Apprentice

    I think you accidentally forget that rangers have the choice for a off hand slot... They have the choice to use a shield, or quiver.

    Where as the DK has NOOOOOO OPTIONS, strictly 2h, no off-hands which technically is a TRUE 2h class.
     
  13. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Not accidentally but intentionally. :D
    I mean ... if ranger uses quiver that is true equivalent of 2H DK. Anyway they have less starting attack speed than DK's just to compensate.
     
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  14. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Lol, 8K HP is a starting point for an Endgame DK with or without a shield. I have 10.5K as a 2H and it makes a big difference because it acts like a reserve while your MWS cools down and you can use that to refill your HP. And getting 50%-70% resist... Easier said than done. That is about 1850-1900 resist at LVL 45 which is expensive and only really helps against mages. Unless you are a serious cash player, your aim should be for 600-1000 resist (25%-33%) and 3K armor (about 60% reduction) and 8.5k-9.5k HP for an endgame DK. There are exceptions, but this is a good starting point.
     
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  15. heycya

    heycya Forum Apprentice

    Yeah I've only had 50% resistance ONCE the entire game, and that was at lower levels. Right now I only have 20% :\.
     
  16. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Well, I certainly would want to try a ranger with maybe a "giant crossbow" or something. Haha, no offhand items, just a 2h big dmg dealer.
     
  17. buhurrr

    buhurrr Someday Author

    Yeah i'd like to see that haha rangers slamming 12kdmg in pvp :rolleyes:
    I would definitely like to see an offensive option for a Dk offhand, similar to quiver/scroll. Not exactly like sargon shield, more like Dual Wield :)
     
  18. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    yeah fire once every 1.5 seconds, by that time the markings about gone or debuffed already haha. I already explained why dual wield will destroy the game in some other thread. To make the long story short, no.
     
  19. buhurrr

    buhurrr Someday Author

    Hm i did not see, but i would guess at something like DPS not being the dk class, if we had similar dps to the others we would be OP, due to our hp/armor
     
  20. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Also, if you want to dual wield, you can try a sargon shield with your high dmg! 20% increase dmg but with pretty junk block rate. Still gives armor bonus so would work for you.
     
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