3 Different Weapons, same result??

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  1. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    Hello, guys! I made some videos farming Bearach with 3 different weapons, the way you can have some references about which one worth the effort buying/crafting. Surprisingly, they're almost evenly matched. Though I'm still getting used to Q7, Q4 keeps staying as my favorite weapon.

    P.S.: Please, forgive the fact that I never edit my videos - I have no time to do so.

    Herald's Set

    Bearach Set

    1H Build
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  2. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Not a surprise.
    Q7 and Q4 are comparable cause both use siege bows.
    1h build is falling behind on boss (mobs die very, very quickly anyway).

    All 3 build are having similar clear times due to most damage coming not from sets themeselves but from concentation tonics/physics (and concentration pots).
    Q7 will be superior the second "no tonics/physics" rule on bosses goes live.
    Q7 wont suffer that much due to its 2/2 bonus which doesnt require concentration to use EA +/- 7 times for free each net.

    You will have about 6/9 EAs (2/3 EAs, Adrenaline, 2/3 EAs, Pot, 2/3 EAs) on both Q4 and 1h.
    You will have 6/9 EAs (up) + 7 bonus EAs each net on Q7.
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2019
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  3. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    Well... since that applies to PW Khalys only afaik, not that big a deal.
  4. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    imagine removing q7 buff, normalizing weapons damage, balancing enemies..
    people would use any weapon they want.. like in the rpgs
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  5. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Does it really? All other bosses doesnt have that mechanic?

    Why Khalys only then? Is there any explanation for that (like still wip)?
  6. rcch

    rcch Advanced

    only khalys based on lordemons video on pw bosses
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  7. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    Yes, there is an explanation.

    Each element of boss in PW gets a special resistance.
    Fire - burning
    Poison - poisoning
    Ice - freeze
    Lightning - ...electrifying, perhaps? haven't been there myself
    Multielemental (Mortis) - all negative effects
    Andermagic - well, since players can't deal andermagic effects, it seems they made it that buffs don't work there

    And since Khalys is the only pure andermagic boss in PW as of now, buffs don't work on her only. Again, it might be halving of resources, had really no time to test it myself, like with lightning.
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  8. couda22

    couda22 Forum Commissioner

    One thing has to be corrected - buffs work on PW Khalys map. Khalys's negative effect it that she reduces skill resource pool (mana/steam/...) by 50%.
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  9. .RakshaRanja.

    .RakshaRanja. Forum Pro

    Thanks for clarification.
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  10. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    XD aka one more q for mages to be useless. Yes. Now we all wait one certain ranger player to come in and spam how op mages are with 50% more cost of skills when he can sam q7. Khlays is already bs. Its a broken boss. Her movement as a boss is bugged and is either a must punish or / get teleported on the start where she is invincible....... and i ll have to be punished by the boss being garbage.
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  11. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    You dont maybe have the bloodrune weapon crafted and collecting dust somewhere?
    There is a ranger insisting on using it, I want to see if its really worth it
    Also regarding your videos, did you consider taking into account the Q7 set being used with an attack speed buff?
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  12. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    If it doesnt give him the next breakpoint its meaningless
  13. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    depending on the current enchantments in his gloves, if he went full plat it might be viable
  14. DreamWill

    DreamWill Forum Commissioner

    With pet and buff in group I reach 3.67 Attack speed with q7 atm, It means 9 EA for free per 2 seconds, the higest dps for all classes; with platinum enchantments on gloves, maxed runes on weapon and adornment and the craft on cloaks I think I can reach the same speed in solo too without pet and buff, but I don't know how many years i need for that:D
  15. Hetsunien

    Hetsunien Padavan

    Hi, Gour! I have 39.4% attack speed on gloves and you know how lazy I am when crafting. I just need to upgrade 1 rune to reach next breakpoint (2.73) with Q7.

    Unfortunately, I have half year trying to get the Bloodmoon Bow, but bad luck is on my side. Probably is the best weapon for my conc reduction build (better than Q4, I mean), but I highly doubt it surpasses Q7 with the same build: 7 EA + 7 buffed 7EA + Adrenaline + the same as before + Dive + 2 EA + Potion + 7 EA + All again...

    Plus, BM Bow is just plain damage, at least Q4 benefits Scatter Shot with bleeding, which I often use, even with Q7 to help party members with 20% extra armor break.
  16. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    However u can only help ra dk and dwarfs. Which is stupid
  17. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    The armor break from scatter shot is global ofc it helps sw too
  18. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    Name these physical moves. not including magic shot.
  19. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    You know when sws stand on top of the mobs and poke them with his stick xD <- that's when xD
  20. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    EPIC STICK SLAP xD deals 1k of base dmg reduces armor of the opponents hits by50% has a chance to reword SW by 0.0001% chance
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