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  1. TestTestTest

    TestTestTest Forum Greenhorn

    I guess this is irony? The gap is not caused by crit shield SM, but 2H SM WITHOUT crit, who are 99% of the PvE SMs.


    I checked back your posts and by the testing of R155, there was much waaah waaah from you as a DK back then, now you are no more a DK as main char? Why?

    Easy way is changing to a SM, which will happen to the most players after this patch, like you did last time. When the majority of the game becomes SMs, we have seen this scenario before and a skill hit rate reduction is just around the corner. ;)
    The community won't stand a chance, if everyone behaves like: "My main class is being nerfed, please boost it." If there is no balance soon a R155 for the SMs will come, which most probably will be the last cut.

    I see very good the motivation behind this changes and they are about profit, and it's a nice thing for a game company to make the game P2P = more profits ... but it's just in the beginning! It's much more profitable to have 200 000 users paying 10$ each, than 200 users, each giving 10 000$, but this is the way this game has taken.

    This part I left untouched in my post, as it's not as important as the crit nerf, announced by the game as an attack speed nerf, but:
    Turning a royal to the new royal gems comes for the nice amount of over 230 000 andermants, which is introducing a new tier of the regular gems in a way the community won't notice it. The new crafting items (needed for the new crafting system) cost ridiculous amount of materis and materis are andermants in a few situations in the game. The new saphires (runes) need new bag of andermants spent in the casino for clovers. Fortify jewel is useless now, most (all) of the old crafted items as well
     
  2. x_Dragon_Slayer_x

    x_Dragon_Slayer_x Someday Author


    It was me xDDD
    with "my" toon in the ts... i was "testing" the "changes" xD

    Sorry for the off-topic
    I really want this release (no the "no more sapphires part" but all the other are great changes i think)
     
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  3. Novadude

    Novadude Commander of the Forum

    When my 2H mech goes 1H, my crit is solely from my tier 2 Wolf absorber × 1 bloodtooth, 10% crit bonus from sparks, and 2 ice crystal 4% gems (so I think about 9%). It's still kind of a waste as I still do most of my damage with machine and mech turrets. My gem-weaker mech can now pretty much kill nearly every boss my DK can and then some more while ignoring crit. (1H allows me to flagrun as well as solo level 1 khalys and mortis on blues, as well as level 3 sigris on reds and probably purples, all the other pw bosses are usually done 2H on blues)

    As for your comments about pre and post R155, there were a lot more players before the R155 release on agathon.
     
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  4. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I can't see crit hit nerfing.
    Your crit hit lowers because you level up ... not because it has been nerfed down.
    ATM I am at level 52 at TS and my crit hit rate is at something like 70% with 2H ... with my old items. I have not a single new item.
     
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  5. Mesala

    Mesala Advanced

    It will be on 55, I already saw a tank with almost half of the crit hit rate that he had on 50. That would mean doing onyx gems on adornment, speed runes on weapons, sapphires to thrash one day. But maybe they suprise us, maybe axe, on upgraded 60 has 3k crit base :p. Maybe maybe maybe, where is CM Clayton?
     
  6. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    You saw a tank level 55 with level 50 crap items :p
    at level 55 you will farm items and take them to level 60 ... problem solved. Most of the players now are having high crit because they have upgraded equipment to 55.

    75%+ actually :D

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Well, I have my final sacred now. And upon further thought, I don't think I'll combine them quite yet.

    If I don't combine them and I use 4x sapphires and 1x onyx (like I am now), then I'm only missing out on 3% more speed (0.0249 attack speed in 2H). But, if the onyx ever becomes unnecessary, then I'm able to have 8% more speed by using 3x14%s and 2x11%s.
     
  8. Gevilson

    Gevilson Active Author

    I haven't seen critic on the new lvl 50+ rings, amulets, belts... might be what they're referring to when they say "critic nerf"? You're using old items... legacy pre-R185 critic items. :eek:
    But I haven't really extensively tested anything yet, so...
     
  9. Dragonnns

    Dragonnns Forum Veteran

    I'm a bit concerned that the difference between the "old" players, the "mid-range" players, and the "new players" is going to have a significant difference. I have a level 50 toon that still can't solo Bearach for example. I don't have any item leveled to 55. And now, I need to level everything to 60 to be considered an "old" player. The increase in the number of GoP needed is going to be incredible.

    I realize I just need to run with it, but this whole "I'm a Mushroom" feeling really isn't helping.
     
  10. fab

    fab Advanced

    Just a stupid game created by stupid developers which only can show double standard to their favourite rangers and dks skill.
    Using longbows with a shield is simply ridiculous in, sw using 1H stats cant even compare to their longbows and not forgetting skills is already a huge difference.
    GO and play a sw in the arena and see how you fare against dks and rangers !!!
     
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  11. GoddessofWar1000

    GoddessofWar1000 Forum Apprentice

    why does it have to be that way....lots of hard work goes into lvl'ing-up; feels like a punishment and not a reward for hard work
     
  12. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    That actually looks quite all right - no panic people- we will adjust to the new system - no sweat.
     
  13. TestTestTest

    TestTestTest Forum Greenhorn

    I see here people posting characters with test server high-end onyxes plus legacy gear. And we are talking about the NEW items in the NEW game. I have tested till mid 53 without hyped gems and gear and TESTED the NEW gear, not the old one. The critical hit rate is nerfed indeed.
    The biggest hit is towards the 2H crit DKs, as I stated above, because it's harder for the class to stay at their current defensive stats, while playing upfront against 55 mobs, upped with the new difficulty to 57 stats, with the legacy left side crit gear.

    The fact is: There are no more flat crit hit rolls on the left side items, the new items have each 3 lines of defensive rolls + %modifiers. The legacy items don't have these rolls. The only new items with crit hit rate potential are the WM - high flat stat + 4x%CHR on this item (perfect combo) + helmet - 4x%CHR global. The 5 onyxes are a must in the WM, that's how saphires go to stash.
     
  14. TestTestTest

    TestTestTest Forum Greenhorn

    Actually they have high crit because they HAVEN'T upgraded to the new gear. I respect the time you spend for the site with the game information, but you have either not tested the new content (incl. items) or you are blindly defending this poor patch, which I can't believe.
     
  15. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    What Onyxes man? Onyx makes me fell sick ... I don't use them at all
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Did you test everything?
    You see I was testing the new content in the other TS before the content was available at the regular TS ... and still testing at TS ... and I haven't tested even 10% of the new contents ... but you seem to have tested everything :)
    Not to mention that I have resources just to simply stroll into new content.
    I am not defending anyone ... but also I can't attack anyone if I simply have no clue how everything in the new content is working.

    Just for this occasion ... I have collected 15 random blue items and I have chosen 2 with crit hit.
    This is what I got

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    My stats before I equip them
    These were my stats (without weapon since I have no wand to equip with that book)

    [​IMG]

    And these are my stats after upgrading those two blue items to level 60

    [​IMG]

    BTW no one said you can't use your old items ... upgrade your items with crit to level 60 and use them. Some of my items are upgraded to level 60 but majority are not ... they are still level 55.
     
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  16. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    Traki- I know you have already posted a screen with a RA using a longbow and a quiver few days ago - could you nbe so kind and check for us again if it is still the case please? Some players in Polish Board were concerned that Ra's will not be able to use the Quiver+Bow combo... Cheers
     
  17. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    I have no level 50 ranger in my main TS account ... but I do have lower level ranger ... and I can equip Quiver + Bow.
     
  18. Yogo

    Yogo Forum Great Master

    That is awesome- thank you very much.
     
  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    No problem
     
  20. TestTestTest

    TestTestTest Forum Greenhorn

    Noone says you can't make 80% with legacy items on the left. No need to post arround the ressources, you got as a present from the admins to test. Now try the same with the NEW items on the left ... with a shield now? ;)
    You either don't understand the mechanic of the new items or just want to have an argument for the argument itself?
     
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