Balor set

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  1. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    I'm pretty bored at the moment and just needed something fun and different to do. Since my part-crafted items will be outdated whenever the release comes, I sacrificed a few 3/4 legendary items (gloves, belt, ring) I had sitting in my locker to make this happen.


    A few notes: None of the Balor set pieces are crafted... nor do they even have gold base lines. This build is meant purely for fun. If the only thing you have to say is "Use q7 set instead," I will point you to my inventory where I have my main set there. :p

    Since I mostly play in a group and am a giant walking CD buff, I am super overloaded on crit and crit damage and use Hangman's Pride instead of Decisive Strike from the wisdom tree.

    So, any thoughts on using this kind of setup? I know it's unorthodox, to say the least, but I gave it a shot last night in Fatal and it was fun, but required a great deal of focus to maintain the stacks from Balor set. If you have suggestions for replacing pieces of gear to make this work better, I'm all ears.
  2. piteris2

    piteris2 Regular

    Can’t you upgrade it to Tier 6? It probably won’t make much of a difference though.
  3. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    Nope. I have 100 augment cores right now and won't be getting more until the update because I am not opening cubes or spending drakens to buy what I will be able to get for MFs soon. xD

    I ended up pristine crafting a few more pieces, so I have 18.9k max damage at 0 stacks and top out around 23k dmg with x4.95 CD. I'd add a screenshot, but I am wearing Herald set to farm New Moon and haven't bothered to switch back yet soooo...
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  4. IvoRapa76

    IvoRapa76 Forum Greenhorn

    Is there a problem with Balor?For a week a kill him over 100 times and give me nothig from his armor.Is this OK?Before no more than 10 kill hi drop something from his armor.
  5. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    Problem? Dunno. My gear set was dropped pre-r214, and the update has changed a lot of things.

    What difficulty are you killing him at? I was farming him on inf2 last night and got a Torso from his set.
  6. IvoRapa76

    IvoRapa76 Forum Greenhorn

    I farm him on normal and my friends say the same to me no gear drop from Balor.Every day minimum 15 kill and get boring
  7. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    If we have to judge from other bosses since t hey have the same drop rates , arachna gives me an unique like everry 15 kills so i thinks its rng problem here
  8. IvoRapa76

    IvoRapa76 Forum Greenhorn

    From 49 lvl to 54 where im now get nothing,only one like "The fist of Kane" and "Ring from Agathon".
  9. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    It's a really nice looking set of armor.
    What is the max number of stacks you managed to maintain?
  10. silverseas

    silverseas Count Count

    It's probably RNG. Also, even though I like this set, I have to say it... it's not a very good set to actually use. So don't lament that you didn't get it, just go farm something else better. xD

    I can regularly reach 50+ stacks. If I stay focused, I can keep that 100 stacks for a long time. However, every time I pause to pick up loot or type something in guild chat the bonus disappears. (Time to beg for auto-loot... again?) Moreover, it's very difficult to build the stacks at boss fights where it counts the most.

    For the time being, I've shelved this side project since I am farming for gem upgrade materials at inf 2 and I don't think the t3 version of this set is up to the task.
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  11. _Baragain_

    _Baragain_ Living Forum Legend

    Agreed. It would be far too stressful/impractical to try to juggle all those skills that trigger stacks of the dark corruption to build and maintain the buff. If the buff duration lasted longer, say 20-30 seconds, then the set might actually be viable and even interesting.

    But short of that, don't waste time getting the set for anything other than the achievement.
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  12. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    Buffs are quite intense in general
    Example belt of zeal even though its a 1 minute buff keeping it you cannot slack or chat
    It would be nice if the dev team decided to make a "buff duration increase unique" like lets say a ring or amulet and the duration increase is 50%?
    This might actually be a thing
    Imagine a ring that increases your stunning or dot damage duration by 50% too
    that would make the dot for rangers last 50% longer or keep mages' shock effect for a while longer
    ofc bleeding effect would last 6 seconds xD
    q7 users would be in 7th heaven for a unique like that xD (*buff duration I mean)
  13. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    no just no i already hate q7 and i dont want it everywhere even more
    Mages have 5 points upgrade to maintain it, dwarfs have perma q7 with this even more , no thanks
  14. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    Nor would I appreciate that but they cant make a unique that excludes 1 specific set or item (actually if its buff based they do but well)
    An effect duration increase unique will still be awesome example bleed for 6 seconds aka 50% longer it will make my damage with q4 set pretty damn permanent
    *on a side note there is games which name I guess I cannot mention that has a unique ring that reduces the requirement for set bonuses by 1 and works to a minimum of 2 items. (iow only1 item will not work)
    also this unique cannot be stack but it does not need to either (not with our setups at least)
    But imagine only needing dragan boots and helm and that ring and I can use 2x dark pieces and just for kicks dragan gloves iow get 15% dmg and 40% weapon damage
    it could work just as good with witch seeker torso and shoulders and then grab the 3 piece bonus
    if you use 2 parts twin queen you get the 3 parts bonus too
  15. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    We should.
    It does not have to be an auto-loot everything kind of feature. We could select what kind of items we want to auto-pick up, right? A larger pick up radius might be a thing, too.
    Picking up stuff by clicking is clumsy. It hinders the action. Your party is spreading too much, as some players are faster looters or ignore most drop by default, while others want to pick up everything...

    Sorry, it's maybe slightly off topic. But how else are we supposed to use Balor set buffs, or other stacking buffs, effectively?
    But who cares, right? With Q7 + the usual setup around, no other set makes sense :D
  16. Rhysingstar

    Rhysingstar Forum Ambassador

    That is one of the saddest parts of this game.
  17. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    This whole idea is nice but remove q7 from the gamer and diversity and everything will be fixed... i just cant understand how ppl want diversity yet all of them say q7 is most efficient its like trying to have water and fire at the same time
    But i like rings wit h1 set for example mages vortex pulls everything in the center when casted its supper cool
    Or Rangers scatter shot marks all enemies on hit this makes q4 so much viable on rangers... but i guess i have to teach bp.......
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
  18. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    Yes :/

    Playing as ranger, I have been a Q4 + Q5 user for a long time. I was a laughing material for others. Except for people with half my power :D
    Recently I gave in and with the R214, I got myself Q7 + Q8 sets. With the same base damage/crit/speed as before, I'm destroying everything twice as fast, maybe faster...

    There have been ideas bouncing around in the creative corner on how to make other sets, that also cost the same amount of materi and effort to obtain -btw, like Q4, more viable or on par with Q7. Another solution would be to "nerf" the Q7, but can you imagine the turd storm that the Q7 users would start?
    I'm now a Q7 user too, and it costed me more materi as I bought it twice to get good base values. I still wouldn't mind if it got a "nerf" because it's really op. But then rangers would become unwanted again, because a ranger without Q7 is good for nothing (compared to other classes).
  19. heror

    heror Forum Baron

    I play with q4 since 1 year and a half ago and with the proper set im better than q7 but i jsut hate this set becasue ppl are dumb the like the same old boring strat.
    No if they nerf all will be in the same pit because the classes will be the same just lower dmg output, and to be hones the game suffers from the pls nerf 2/4 classes or give the other 2 tools to compete
    Q7 should not give dmg 150 if it gives other bonuses for mage for instance it gives nothing else and if we compare total dps even with 3 sec all clases outdmg the mage ( without mana buff ) so i suggest nerfing the dmg to 75 and nerfing mage duration to 7 sec to be fair
    And ofc now everybody is gonna flame me and hate me because they dont want to admit the truth, sadly only a few think with their heads.
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
  20. gbit

    gbit Forum General

    I don't know for the mage (I play only a war) but for a war Q7 is OP because of +50% attack speed with smash, not for the +150% damage.
    with low essences Q7 is more performant than Q4 while with purple or red essences Q4 has a better damage output than Q7, with normal attack skill (no smash).
    with smash (+50% AS), Q7 reach always the next speed attack breakpoint respect to Q4 and better damage output than Q4 (always); now (post R214) with the new AS runes (and, at least, platinum lines) is possible for Q4 to reach max AS breakpoint (as Q7), and is a good alternative build for a war (same or better damage output than Q7).
    I repeat, this is only for war, I don't play a mage; so I don't know if it is really necessary nerfing Q7.
    i hope this would help the discussion...
    P.S. sorry for my english :)
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
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