Best Longbow?

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  1. gastonp74

    gastonp74 Forum Apprentice

    Hi! I'm still levelling up (I'm level 50 at the moment) and I'm really enjoying playing with a longbow and a quiver. I've tried a siege bow but I didn't like it. Maybe later when I can get the famous Herald's bow although I like using others skills than Explosive Arrow all the time (I just use EA to break armor and then I use other skills to finish mobs).
    So, as the title says, my question is what's the best long bow I can get and where can I get it?
    Thank you very much in advance for your answers.
     
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  2. nikatar

    nikatar Junior Expert

    In my opinion, vargoulf one and it is the best one for pvp too! You can get it from full moon event!
     
  3. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    First off, it's nice to see that some people are thinking about a build off-the-bandwagon.
    A good (finished) longbow build uses EA quite a lot though, since you won't have anything else to do out of your concentration :) :) :)

    Now regarding your main question... the real answer is... there is no really good unique longbow. Devs converted every single good longbow into a siegebow hoaxbow (with R185 and the following updates), and what stayed are almost only shortbows.
    New Moon? Shortbows. Worldly drop? Dragonslayer Bow - shortbow. Q7, Q4, Bloodrune, Dragan? Hoaxbows.

    If you are using Thicket of Thorns (and it's quite a good skill for hordes considering the 5p. talent), you might be interested in the Lehaine's Lost Hunting Bow, which can be obtained from cubes that drop when you have premium.
    If you are after just any unique longbow where you could get good base values and transfer some good enchantments onto it, or just for a placeholder, and you're not using ToT (or simply don't have premium), Power of the Alliance is usable. It can drop from Q6 (Ocean of Bones) in PW or from Khalys or Nefertari in their Scaling Normal Dungeons.
    Then comes the Bow of Destruction. It's a good and quite a balanced one. It drops from the Myrdosch region, including the Destructor, in the Scaling Normal Dungeons.
    There are some more, like Kranparus' (Winter Solstice event) or the Wolfslayer's one (Full Moon). However, the former has a crappy unique value - only ice resistance, and the latter has no unique value at all.

    [EDIT] That bow has no unique value and its set is not worth it compared to any other items. Also, it's not the best one for PvP, the best one for PvP is no bow at all and just exploits the Destruction one.
     
    Last edited by moderator: Feb 28, 2019
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  4. dkarl

    dkarl Forum Commissioner

    My level 51 alt ranger is still using a T0 Bow of Destruction. Short bow speed combined with longbow concentration reduction and higher damage.

    Not sure I'll ever use a 2-handed bow, but I'll also never be a true end-gamer.
     
  5. DreamWill

    DreamWill Forum Commissioner

    Maybe the strongest longbow is gnob bow, but it's very expensive making a build with it
     
  6. gastonp74

    gastonp74 Forum Apprentice

    Thank you very much to all of you for your answers.

    I wasn't lucky to get it yet, but I'll keep on trying in the next full moon.

    I have premium. I have several cubes to open but I was saving them for when I reach level 55 (Am I doing right?). I'll try to kill Khalys in painful to see if I can get the Power of the Alliance and I'll do some runs in the Myrdosch region (not Destructor because he's really hard to kill for me :oops:).

    yes, I've seen the bow but it's out of my league. I don't have all those drakens :(
     
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  7. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    I agree with
    Dancing Blade is top DMG longbow, but this is end build .
    But Lehaine bow with 5/5 set is top 1h build , or 4/5 Lehain +DB+Heredur helmet.
    If you don't have Lehaine bow for craft , then use leg longbow.

    No build with quiver which is better than build with shield, remember this.
     
  8. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    That's only your opinion.
     
  9. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    Ok , it's mine opinion. I can support it with facts.
    Mine best 1h build :
    5/5 Lehaine set
    3/5 dragan - ring+boots+gloves
    helmet - heredur or witch chaser with 2/4 , 3/4 or 4/4 WCh set
    shoulders - for inf 3,4 - dragan + 2/2 armor /resistance craft, WCh for max dmg , q5 for conc reduction, prem shoulders for permanent trap skill.
    torso - WCh, q1 or q8;
    belt - WCh , q4 , blood rune

    Suggest me a better alternative ?
     
  10. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    Lehaine's bow
    Dragonslayer or Sharr Kharab's Quiver
    3/4 dragan - ring+gloves+helmet
    q5 pauldrons
    q8 set
    q9 set
    q4 belt
    Mortis' ring or a Tear Holder if you can afford it
    Khalys' cloak

    And it's just an example that uses a quiver. I'm not saying it's the only possible one, it's very different, and what I was trying to say is that builds with a shield aren't superior to the builds with a quiver. Both have their advantages, but I believe that as a ranger you can get quite enough defence with a quiver build to do well soloing high modes.
     
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  11. MikeyMetro

    MikeyMetro Forum Overlooker

    True dat :)
    it's simple...
    with 4 CD lines on quiver...
    and CD runes in quiver...
    jewelry has room for a few HP lines...
    and HP runes in such rings...
    as well as Amethysts...
    HP = Defense ;)
     
  12. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    The q8 lighting is buged - don't crit , q9 spheres -too, explosion don't work ;) btw q9 work beter with shield - mine opinion too.
    Tear holder - I don't know , I finished with dark set experiments long time ago , but TH & MR use exept dragan or Lehaine set , one of them .
    Q9 like set is trash for ranger too , and exept another set combination .
    For quivers , best of them is guenfara , bu it's end build too , with expensive draken core craft.
    May be with this quiver +dragan shoulders crafted x4 block rate (draken craft again) is posisble very strong quiver build with high block chance . With new 2 hours bufs many new variations are possible.
    Sharr Kharab's Quiver is trash too , 5% chance are too close to nothing ! Like Kranparus bonus with the same chance .
    In all other cases Gorga or Dragonslayer quivers - easy to get it , no draken core craft .
    But generally shield build is the same like quiver build , and little more speed are noting vs block rate & power . And here don't have any combination of set bonuses which can compete with 5/5 Lehaine set bonus .
    Mine opinion.
     
  13. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Ambassador

    That was an example build, there are other possibilities (eg. utilizing the black new moon decoration).
    Explosion does work, it just has no animation :p Found out some time ago.
    The problem is both do not crit, which is a bug and has to be fixed.
    Then, the slowing effect from q8 is really nice as well.
    Yes, it is a possiblity.
    As long as you want block, this is a possiblity.
    Nope, it's 5% per use of frequently used abilities, it's not to be ignored. Now, I have to test it (will update as soon as I test), but they might be bugged just like q8 and q9 sets (not critting).
    A little more speed? Not sure where are you going to draw that speed from...
    Anyways...
    Quiver build will always have way more damage (more %D in helmet) and critical hit rate than a shield build.

    Just accept the fact that the quiver builds can work just as well (if not better) than the shield builds, just like I am accepting the shield builds as good too.
     
  14. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Inhabitant

    You are right, Gwenfara quiver is best in game. And you don't need dragan shoulders with it.
    My idea is
    Dragan ring , boots and gloves
    Gwenfara quiver with Lehaine bow
    Witch seeker 4/4
    Khaly cloak
    Ring cube, adornment and amulet cube
    OR
    Gwenfara quiver with blade dance bow
    Q5 pauldrons
    Q1 torso
    Belt of zeal
    Dragan boots, gloves and helmet
    Bloodtooth and cube ring
    Q9 amulet
    Neferati cloak
    Adornment cube for resist or magotina

    With quiver 3/1 crit dmg/speed or crit dmg/crit on item you can have 1 full hp ring or amulet. On ranger you can get with this 150k hp or more on 1h
     
  15. deliburan78

    deliburan78 Advanced

    You are kidding http://prntscr.com/ms5tx5 .
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    p.s. http://prntscr.com/msbfgj no buffs , no crafted rings , low tier rings & adornment , no onixs in weapon , no gold crit base in rings .
    Yes , with quiver I can achieve this stats easy at the expense of the block chance, with ~20% more dmg bonus.

    With qiuver x4 crit dmg you can have 2 full hp rings , not amulet. Amulet always is crafted with crit dmg.
    And with shield 5/5 lehaine you can have 50% more hp - it's like full hp amulet with x4 max platinum lines hp.;)
    ---
    Little correction - with quiver you can have full hp rings x2 + amulet too. With shield - you need at least one item with crit dmg craft ,
    and amulet is better choise for this.
    Lehaine set bonus compensate lost x4 hp lines from the amulet .
    ---
    Why you don't asked who is best shortbow ? Only one - The Predator bow, but it's not accurate shortbow , it's longbow masked as a shortbow.
     
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2019
  16. Dемои

    Dемои Forum Inhabitant

    Predator is short bow ;)
    They don't have 20% recuction of concentration just 20% more concentration
    And best short bow is from Gwenfara. On T7 you can have dmg like on 2h
     
  17. Arr

    Arr Forum Expert

    it depends on your stats but lehaine probably because of the lower cooldown of thickets of thorns and the critical damage bonus from the set

    and you dont need a shield, you have to maximize your offensive stats
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2019

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