board of players

kavekanis · Aug 16, 2018

MademoiselleCaramel said: ↑

Mods became too official, too cold, one cannot sympathize/identify (sry I am not sure what would be the right word) with them. I like transparency. Players need someone who can trust and equate with.
I assure you, while we may be cold and official with our official presences, we are not like that behind the scenes. Our moderator accounts are our official connection with you, the players. That official presence requires a certain amount of detachment and professionalism since we are not here to be anyone's friends, but rather we are here to enforce the rules and play the middleman between the players and the DSO team. We are volunteers and perform these duties out of a love for the game. We do have a side that you don't see. For example, we have our own little chat room where we discuss issues, debate ideas, and just "hang out." But outside of that room, we are all business.

Another detail that you are probably not aware of (because of how restrained we are on the forums) is that we are very passionate about this game and regularly go to bat for the players. More than once, members of the Mod Team have butted heads with our "bosses" at BigPoint because we tell them things they don't like to hear. You only see our official side where we offer tech support, answer basic questions, and enforce the rules when someone steps out of line. But never forget, as we are also players, we have our "Social Accounts" too. Those are the ones where we participate with this community as invested players who have hopes and dreams of our own for this game. You may not connect the dots and know who is who, but I assure you, all the mods on the team are also active in the community as players too... It's part of the requirements to be a mod after all.

Akageshi said: ↑

I'm sure only elite players would make it to the "board". Logical - they have experience. But elite players don't think in terms of weak or mid players. They are in a bubble of top tiers, top farming, top power. Look at the forum: Everyone's always only arguing from their own viewpoint, ignoring problems of players on different levels of power and experience and especially luck. It's natural, I probably do it too unintentionally despite not being top, but unless there are truly objective members of your board of players, I don't like the idea too much. ... Not that my opinion matters.
Not all the members of the team are "elites." Some of us just enjoy playing more casually while others are more "elite" in how they approach this game. However, we do have representation of every class on the team and we are all well acquainted with the mechanics. Because of the diversity, we often debate the ideas relating to balance, and I think that our debates are probably the most objective debates on the topic possible, especially when compared to the "My class is so weak" or "Nerf this OP class" thread that are constantly showing up on the forums. Again, you may not see it, but a lot goes on behind the scenes to support and fight for this community.
kavekanis said: ↑

but it is evident that it is not enough or they are not listened to, I do not know if the moderators are experienced players or if they are listened to.
Well, we are experienced, but you'll have to take my word on that. But, as we are not employees, we don't have any real say in what happens. We are just the people who collect, process, and pass on valid feedback on a weekly basis. If the team chooses not to listen to what we pass on, what makes you think that they'd actually use the feedback from this hypothetical Board of Players? I can tell you, after reading this thread, what you are looking for already exists in the form of the Moderator teams. While I can't speak for the other language teams, I know that the English team is a dedicated group of players that care deeply about this game and it's future and will never stop fighting on the player's behalf. You may never see it, but it does happen.

KingKrazy1 said: ↑

On the other hand, please point me to where the moderators explained the All for None event.
Perhaps, as a kid, you heard the phrase "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." If we moderators don't like something, we aren't going to complain to you, the players. Nor are we going to try to defend something that we don't agree with. Instead, we take your negative feedback, combine it with any feedback we have, and push it up. It's happens before, and I'm sure it will happen again.

Finally, I'd like to end by reminding you all that anyone can apply to be a moderator. If you are an active part of this community and think you can offer even more as a moderator, please, apply. Many times, we've had new mods join the team who ended up shocked by just how much goes on behind the scenes and that the world is more complicated than it seems, but don't let that discourage you. If you want to help make a difference, I challenge you to join the team and help us improve the game for everyone.
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that is precisely what I ask: players or moderators who can say and contribute something real about the game that is heard by the developers since the developers are obviously totally unaware of how to delude and satisfy the players

I believe totally in his words but I also see in them the impossibility that they have to do something real I see that their impressions do not count for the decisions of the developers, that is a big mistake on the part of the development team I appreciate your efforts your volunteer work I'm sure many things would change if they were heard but obviously it's not like that and that's what has to be changed I also think if we knew more of what happens as you say behind the scenes we would see that someone is fighting for us I understand they are voluntary they do not have any decision power and they do what they can without us knowing it but something fails in this logic What is wrong is that it must be frustrating to volunteer something that does not please a great majority, although I appreciate everything they do, I could not do it

look ... this is untenable ... the pvp .. the events, the workbench, I can not believe the developers are limited and live in an ivory tower, although they have benefits of the game why not do more? Why can not players influse in their decisions? Perhaps this could make the discontent worse now? making an attractive and satisfying game they do not need to give anything for it, NOTHING, instead of monotonous irritating and frustrating, to win more money and players have to give us nothing just listen to good ideas and improve the game and its benefits

this response is more directed to your exposure to the development team than to you moderators so I do not expect your response. It has been clear to me your responsibilities and limitations but you have to find a way that you or the players or a small group of players can really influence on the game. break this mechanics of developers in one world and players in another the consequences of this are clear in the opinions of the last events, pvp, workbench, farm once and again the same maps is not the problem system of drop of unics either, what kills the game is the lack of complicity between those who do it and those who play it, how can developers not see it?

the development team will simply improve with their ideas if they are listened to. I am sure so I ask you to expose and defend this idea, although few have voted to be 90% agreed on it.

MademoiselleCaramel · Aug 16, 2018

It has always interested me how the communication between mods and devs is going. Like, mods must tell them that the feedback for something is 100% negative, and the devs say what to that? "Whatever, who cares?" I mean, they are losing their customers, they are not attracting new ones, should not they be concerned about that as a business ppl? Just shut the game down for good if you do not care about it. My brain seriously cannot comprehend their actions.

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