Boss Armor & Resistances

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  1. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Commissioner

    I tried to calculate boss stats (only lev55).

    I simply tested some bosses by removing all items that increase only min or max damage (weapon, ornament, witch set, etc.).
    In this way inflicted damage are constant (be careful because some bosses have block value)

    From my tests, only physical damage, it would seem that armor and resistances do not change with increasing difficulty and these are my results.


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    Last edited: Jun 15, 2020
  2. rcch

    rcch Active Author

    this needs to be sticked :D
     
  3. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Commissioner

    if someone help to test ;)

    I tested some ScalingDungeon boses in painful and Asar in painful, infernal 1 and 3.
    Tested also Grimmag and Khalys PW in painful.

    I don't think armor and resistances change with high difficulty in PW or when we are in group but I'm not sure.
     
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  4. couda22

    couda22 Board Analyst

    Monster can have random monster enchantments. Number of such enchantments for bosses corresponds with the difficulty - painful: 1, inf7: 10. Three of those ten secondary RME of (??? all ???) bosses contains 1.1x armor/resistances increase.

    Most (??? all ???) bosses have 1.2x increased armor/resistances per additional group member.
     
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  5. AK47TestPlayer

    AK47TestPlayer Forum Baron

    Why don't you just ask the administration for the exact details?
    You can ask Jesse or anyone else who can give an accurate table, because players usually have inaccuracies, + 1-5%. But if we turn to the administrators, there will be a more accurate answer with the latest changes (in the latest release) ... The forum has old tables, they are official, but there is no certainty that these tables are still relevant.
     
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  6. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    We not only need detailed info, we need testing because often they implemented stuff in the wrong way ; last example epic elemental essences don't deal 300% of base skill damage but 325% (and 100%, 200% ess deal 125% and 225%, tested).
     
  7. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    Also i doubt anyone from the administration will give you the tables
     
  8. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    Admin: "I used the tables to destroy the tables"
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2020
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  9. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

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  10. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    :D
     
  11. TwiliShadow

    TwiliShadow Count Count

    I could use a table so that when I enter the boss map I can quickly know which elemental essence to create for the coming battle....
     
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  12. gbit

    gbit Forum Overlooker

    Sorry, why the tables are no longer visible?
     
  13. ΣMiwel

    ΣMiwel Forum Overlooker

    It looks like the URLs broke somehow. And it's here on this forum that they're all "aaaaaa", not on imgur.
     
  14. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    when they redid the forum they lost a lot of images
    however there is some hope
    people have backups etc

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    and hp ofc
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    I hope this answers some questions
    oh and found this too
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    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
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  15. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Commissioner

    I deleted my igmur account with DSO images so I edited links in "aaaa".
    I've "given" all formulas and indicated how to retrieve information to someone if him/they want continue studying DSO math.

    In this case it is simply to find out the exact % of boss armor/resistances.
    Just hit boss in painful with no weapon and without all that give you only dmg or dmg max stats.

    When in you stats see dmg min=dmg max you can test with psysical dmg skill and then with elemental dmg skill/elemental essences.
    at least as far as it goes base armor/resistances.

    This for scaling dungeon (painful or hight difficulties), paralel world and event because there are different defense factors.
     
  16. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Data mining is illegal ;)

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    I wonder why are they keeping Sargon still out of the game

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    Who is Master Kosolapov?
     
  17. DreamWill

    DreamWill Board Analyst

    maybe Big paws
     
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  18. Phyrix

    Phyrix Count Count

    Was to lazy to open the site in chrome for auto translation but heres a screenshot of the url
    I did however not mine anything but merely got it from this russian site auto translated with chrome
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    So how illegal is screenshotting the stuff they provide translated xD
    fyi they also have legendary jewels etc on their site.
    I wish I knew xD
    I never even saw that but pretty damn interesting though
    I did see the sargon resists however.

    EDIT
    What is the name of that general in gleaming mountains?
    could it be him or some new villian?
     
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  19. trakilaki

    trakilaki Living Forum Legend

    Dude I wasn't saying you did it :)
    I understand Russian and I read Cyrillic ... therefore I know who and why pronounce Heredur as Geredar etc ;)
    That doesn't mean the data should be 100% accurate because it could be placed as a placeholder only to be changed later. But it is still obtained in illegal way.
    What general in Gleaming Mountains?
    I only know one general ... General Motors
     
  20. Marsicanus

    Marsicanus Forum Commissioner

    I think data mining is something else.
    In any case there is differences between illegal Data Mining (it isn't always illegal) and read data.

    If the information is encrypted or otherwise protected then if you bypass the protections you violate BP's rules.
    But if BP are so smart to give you all data in a readable format you must bypass anything and you can't violate rules.
    If in a site web there are 2 links of the same file:
    - one in encrypted and password protected and you must pay to have password
    - one is in txt format
    It makes sense for you?

    I didn't understand the utility to have encrypted files if you give us also unencrypted version of the files or wrote a key in a txt file.

    I'm afraid to know how they guarantee the protection of our personal data.
     

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