Can you please make spellweavers weaker?

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  1. ROTH66

    ROTH66 Someday Author

    In the time where everybody is preoccupied with events I am still preoccupied with the game's "balance". Which is just marvelous, it's needs just some minor tweaks.
    I feel like 4000 hp its way too much for a mage class, and almost 1700 armour.
    ie. I was once able to defeat a level 45 legionnaire Dk with my Ardent centurion sw.
    Also can you make dks a little faster? I know they have that heavy armour on them, but this is a game and should have nothing to do with any real world logic. So if you could make them so fast that you can't see them on the screen, that would be awesome (except at the end where they activate their emoticons or how that edit is called).
    And somewhere in future, with the next patches would be a great idea to remove all the classes and leave just the dks.
    Oh.. Wait. actually it wouldn't be such a great idea, because then dks wouldn't have of whom to make fun of. Ya.. don't remove them, just leave them as they are. Cause' they are great!
    Thank you for always listening to me.
     
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  2. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    Use ice bolt against DKs, make sure to keep them blue all the time. Eventually they stop chasing you and go for somebody else or your teammate arrives and you double-team on the slow, blue DK. The blueness stacks with hunting arrow slow, and I have seen many ubar strong DKs die very very quickly when they are blue and green at the same time. If you choose not to immobilize them first and focus on doing damage instead, you leave them the option to catch and hurt you or to run away and heal.
     
  3. Zokin

    Zokin Forum Expert

    In duels use your mc+teleport skills to make them miss you with their stun charge/rage jump/ground brake, after that just cast singularity and burn the heck out of them (this aplyes only if you are lvl cap in duels, if you are not then listen to spiro's advice). And if they dont rush on you then just keep distance and spam fireball/ice bolt. ;)
     
  4. ROTH66

    ROTH66 Someday Author

    Yes, good advices. Only that Im playing 1v1. Most of the times I am able to cast mind control, and then singularity, and all this while running as fast as I can, and we all know that sws don't run as fast, not because they have heavy armours, but because their limbs are made of gummy bears. But even when I cast all those spells, they have no fear entering the singularity and stun me, and then two hits, and bye bye puny crappy ridiculous spellweaver. And the ice arrows are my main arsenal against them, but to no avail. Ice arrows,mind control, singularity, meteor, nova, all in a combo, and when I look to their life is 90% :) and mine is gone.
    Some other advises where to cry and suffer until I get to level 35 on pvp rank, and then whole world will change. I honestly doubt it. But even so, right now I am very able to defeat koto-sw, koto-ranger, not all of them, but a good portion, yet a dk-NO! not even smaller than me in ranks and whatnots.
    Well, to conlcude: all dks will tell me to start a dk, and see for my self how hard it is to manage through the game until they get to a bigger level, and so what I understand is that is difficult to raise a decent dk, but then the world is yours, pvp fights, mortis fights.etc
    I would really like to not be forced to encounter dks in a fight, I must change 3 spells, in my spell-bar in order to fight them, and all of that just to delay the inevitable.
    I also am aware that I might not be the best spellweaver there is, so if you could teach some tactics, and show them on youtube would be great, also would be nice to show your inventory, if you have 5 sacred gems in weapon, then your video means nothing to me.
    Thanks spiro and zakin.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2014
  5. Lordcl

    Lordcl Junior Expert

    faster DK weaker SW. you have no clue what you are saying
     
  6. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    I think that was sarcasm.

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    Anyways, ROTH, if you're only having trouble fighting melee class while it is a breeze against ranged classes, it means you're an offscreen fighter. You move around and you snipe the enemy out. For this form of fighting, you don't need good defense because you'd be dodging enemy attacks. However, DKs will chase you down because they have to.. they can't offscreen fight. If so many of them are killing you with 2 shots, you have poor defense. I suggest you increase your health, armor, and even blocks if you can. You'll see that it will get easier to fight DKs.
     
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  7. ROTH66

    ROTH66 Someday Author

    Actually that is a good advise. I put a ball in my hand, and now my sw seems to have more balls. Who would have thought? :)
    I finally defeated a dk, it's true that he was smaller than me, but still, it's a start.

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    So.. thx.
     
  8. spiro_spula

    spiro_spula Forum Connoisseur

    Now you have to try out all the suggestions from before which did not work because you had a book 8) Many new combos and tactics will become doable with the new setup so experiment a lot again. Have fun
     
  9. ROTH66

    ROTH66 Someday Author

    Yes sir, I will.

    Yes, no, I was wrong. I still can't defeat any dk's. I tried even with 3 items from atlantis set, which give huge defensive bonuses. No matter, I still can't defeat any dks, unless they have very poor tactics. Their undefeatable. After I make 9000+ damage their life is almost intact (90%). And I can only do as much damage as they do. Problem is that after 9000 damage I'm dead twice :). Maybe this is my punishment for not putting any money lately in the game. But BP can wait long and patient, I won't put any money in a game that is so defectous.
     
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  10. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Trust me, fight more and you'll see. Spellweavers are really really strong so don't blame the class blame yourself. Your stats won't work if you focus totally on defense since you're a spellweaver after all. No attack means you're dead. I can probably guess that your dmg on high side is less than 600 or even 500.

    I hope you are playing as a fireball Spellweaver, because without 30 talent for faster lightning losing is normal. When you hit 30 fame tree, your fireballs travel 33% faster and are much harder to dodge. So does your other projectiles. (Unless you wanna play a lightning SW, not as easy to master. When you hit 35 fame tree, your debuffing move is deadly against DKs. When they stun you or armor break with iron brow you can icy nova, undoing your stun and negative effects while stunning the DK. If you didn't choose "light footed (+20% travel speed)" talent for level 20 fame tree you better change it now. DKs will choose it to chase people, meaning all other classes must choose it or get hunted down. Even without the "chasing" factor I would still choose it as it helps a lot. All I can say is you started PVP a bit too late so if you are a f2p that is going to be hard.
     
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  11. Lordcl

    Lordcl Junior Expert

    as a SW, basically you will be everybody's EDIT untill you reach lvl 35 pvp skill. no matter what you do before that, no matter how you tweak is useless. get that 35 lvl skills first and then think about pvp strategy
     
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  12. NightWalker

    NightWalker Board Analyst

    Not really, SWs play fine even before level 35 fame tree, just depends on the player and the level range you are at. Even at level 45 without 35 fame tree, SWs can deal massive dmg and also use moves like singu in CTF which is very effective. Doesn't matter about the dmg singu is doing, more about the effect which is deadly. Learn to support your team if you are not as strong as they are.
     
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  13. Lordcl

    Lordcl Junior Expert

    dude, without 35 lvl SW is easy picking. massive damage, yes other players are having a picnic in arena so that u go and deal massive damage :) without 35 lvl a DK will jump at u 1 head but and SW is gone.
    or yes go buy tons of gems and u wont need the 35 lvl
     
  14. TheInfamous

    TheInfamous Board Analyst

    It's true, without 35 Fame SW is really vulnerable. It's become painfully clear to me as my DK began fighting koto+ mages... There are few things quite as annoying as mages.

    I think, ROTH, it may not have to do with your stats at all. I am pretty sure you're a ranger. It is difficult to adapt to a different class and it takes lots of time. Good luck.
     
  15. sunovabit

    sunovabit Forum Greenhorn

    now since every1 is getting a complete set of sargon armor get ready to face tons of sw with 7k+ - 8k+ HP
     
  16. -Faeriequeen22-

    -Faeriequeen22- Forum Mogul

    Don't worry, most of those 7-8k hp sw cannot afford to use an orb and have a horrible armor. Therefore, they are not much of a prblm. :D
     
  17. Lordcl

    Lordcl Junior Expert

    what s hp got to do with an orb?
     
  18. ningruoxi

    ningruoxi Forum Apprentice

    dude,sargon set mean 0 crit, what would u do?
     
  19. -Faeriequeen22-

    -Faeriequeen22- Forum Mogul

    Well yes, big hp doesn't mean a lot without armor and block (which you get from orb :p ) = even though they have 7-8k hp, they die :D
     
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  20. Lordcl

    Lordcl Junior Expert

    now i have sargon + roshan and 6 k + hp and an orb . how do u explain that? lol
     
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