Feedback Community Letter Release 213/14

Clearly you haven't played on test server or even seen a video on it.

 

Leaderboard when start on live server ? too boring the game now ....

 

Don't listen to him.
The drops have been nerfed with each consecutive patch ...
I am very lucky with clovers ... I get at least 10 per month from daily plus jesters.
Lets see how much I am getting now and how much I will probably get after the new R.
Now: I am getting in average around 20 clovers per month both from daily and jesters ... that is enough for 2 runes.
Then: I will have to get at lest 2 entrances per day in average. That is 60 entrances in average per month.
Not all Secret Lairs have same instances ... they are random. You can't get clover on some instance ... in same time on the other instances you can get clovers IF lucky. So lets say I am getting 5 clovers in average per day from Secret lairs ... that is 150 clover in average per month only from the Lairs. Lets say i am lucky and I get x15 clover from daily 10 times per month ... that is another 150 clover.
Total: in average 300x clover per month.
No bonus code and event clovers taken into account.
So ... ATM I can buy 2 runes per month with 20 clover (plus runes from Jesters if lucky) ... after the new R I will get in average ~300x clover which is not enough to buy even one rune per month.

2 runes is always better than 0 in my Conspiracy-Math book.

 

play every day for three months to buy one rune?
that doesnt make any sense so most probably you are wrong

 

Brave statement.... From my experience reading forums, its pretty rare that Traki will post something that is inaccurate. Just need to read Wiki to see how much testing is done before comments are made.

I must be well and truely on the other side of the lucky coin. Takes me 2-3 months to accrue 10 clovers to pay for rune. Admittedly all is from dailies as rarely used Jesters. It is only with the ending of an age that I have started using Jesters and can see what I have missed

 

Italian forum mod say that leaderboards'll start with new rel so 10-13 december or in 2019.

 

I was not able to go to a new map previously because every time when I tried to go, it would crash me back into the town. Our guild leader told me to try Sigris map and I did and was able to go in today.

So, here is my experience:

1. My first feedback is that how come there is only one small map? In the update notes it said, there will be 4 platforms for old dungeons, 8 platforms for event dungeons and 12 for parallel worlds. However, I found only 1 small tiny map and I couldn't figure out if there is a way to go from there to a second map.
2. When I killed the boss, a treasure chest appeared and I was able to loot a bunch of green items and a single clover. Yes, about 10-15 minutes effort clearing the old dungeon, killing sentinel, getting key, killing boss and opening the portal, clearing cave and the reward is a single clover?
3. The chests that were present in the dungeon when opened gave me level 1 items. That needs to be fixed.
4. The creatures also dropped inside the portal map, level 1 items.
5. I am stuck at "From Disaster to master 2/9" crafting quest. It says to harvest Anacampseros and I harvested 4 of them and also bought a bottle (which should be mentioned in the quest, but not). However, I still cannot complete the quest and do not know how to proceed. Also, there is no icon to represent who the NPC for this quest as I had to go and check every NPC in town to figure out who gave me the quest.

 

Arr's statement is very brave because he is very wrong (about it making sense).

Zoltan, when it comes to the Jesters and clovers, you really haven't missed out. As I said earlier, I've only gotten 2 clovers this year from them and in 3 years of playing the jester clover wins might almost total 10.0, and I'm not jesting about that.

 

Depends how much gold you have spend this morning i got 1 for 4 k gold 2 days ago i got 2 for the same abount.
With the leaderboard rewards i got 0 so its rng keep trying i guess

 

Interesting.. Meanwhile I haven't gotten a single clover on the live server since the 13th of september.

 

I went on test server today and i spent several hours of play. I managed to create a simple physics of vigor after some struggle. I also found that you can purchase one from hiraja for 23 gold. My conclusion is that it will be easier to farm for gold with the new version rather than farm plants in order to create those reinforcements.

People will just stay in q-s as usual and the whole struggle to create plants will be almost worthless.The solution would be to make them more expensive, at least double the price.

Also Trakilaki is correct about the clover drop. I went on painfull grom grimag in fire lair and got only 2 clovers. Seeing that i'm limited to 2 entries per day, that will mean that it will be harder to farm for runes in new release.

Also i added a video of the hiraja merchant.

 

The devs have settled it then. Only a week and a half until this patch hits and the game dies.

RIP DSO, 2011 - 2018

 

why double the price and not make the requirements for the plants half.????? this is bonkers thinking against the players"s Interest

 

on the bright side it lasted much more than many free to play mmo rpg games, how many of them lasted so many years?

It's projection on your part, i was able to get 10 clovers from daily quests, you can't get many of them unless you are an hardcore gambler and you gamble both gold and andermants
For average players it's not possible to get so many clovers

They they should at least make entering the lairs free or they should drastically increase the drops of clovers in the lairs and stop making them random

Also increase clover rewards from daily quests to at least 60 clovers

Also how about putting a some clovers as a progress reward for both new moon and full moon?

 

- Drop rates, items stacks, prices have changed many times since first 214 builds so until this patch goes live these things are not definitive.
- Since they put release214 on, daily challenges gives 15 clovers.
- Kramparus challenges gives 50 clovers so we will get clovers from events probably and mini events.
- While you get those clovers you can use some of these things so you dont feel yourself too weak and you dont think the game will die because its too hard:

+adamantium lines

 

I actually didn’t play before 2014, so I am a newbie compared to some players here on the forum.

True, there is so little activity now as opposed to when I first played. This only validates what we all see: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=/m/0w32dmz
Notice how sharply the game decreases in search popularity after the Lor’Tac expansion went live. Even in late 2013 the popularity started to rapidly decrease. BP need to learn from this, not repeat the same mistakes of the past.

 

ah yes because 50 clovers means that event rewards are definitely keeping up with the inflation, it's totally all right, move along
Also 15 clovers is totally enough to cover the huge increase in prices for the runes, yep, it's not like the prices of some runes went up 60 times while rewards only went up 15 times, yep, the increase is totally going to keep up with inflation

Also guess what, they are making things worse for everyone, but the hardest hit by this are going to be the newbies, strong characters will weather the storm, it's the newbies who are going to suffer
And that was the opposite of what the devs intended or so they claimed

Also considering that essence drops have been slashed and potions cost too much for newbies, given the fact that gold prices for selling have remained the same and coin drops have not risen significantly, not enough to keep up with inflation
it's like the maga chuds screaming like NPCs the same lines about the economy doing good, yet wages are stagnating and prices are increasing

 

xd

 

none of this is final but even if it is im not worried, if the supposed lack of clovers (a secondary thing in the game) affect the mechanics and development of characters they will modify it, same with other currencies.

the game will be easier and new players will progress faster than we did

last thing, there is a line between release 214 and pre 214 game and people are just comparing both and spoting the differences but if you look at it as a new player you probably wont find anything really bad. I have been critical about bigpoint and probably will still be but i believe this time they are doing it well.

 

and yet before this you could buy runes much faster than what they are planning
The release is going to make acquiring runes much slover, trakilaki demonstrated that above, if you haven't read it

It's either going live in this state or it's probably going to be much worse, given their previous behavior

What faster?Crafting prices have shot through the roof, yet sell prices are similar to today or have slightly increased
drops have been nerfed, leggendaries are rare, uniques are non existent, how are newbies going to farm gold, needed for crafting?How are they going to farm glyphs?It's literally going to be worse for them, based on this

Also they removed the 80 materi frags keeper, they removed the jesters entirely,while they could have just removed andermant gambling they nerfed essence drops
The game will be much harsher for newbies