Feedback Curse of the Black Knights - Return of Dragan

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  1. teddy.bear

    teddy.bear Team Leader Team Drakensang Online

    Greetings Heroes,

    Please post in this thread your feedback regarding this Curse of the Black Knights - Return of Dragan event edition.

    Positive or negative, constructive criticism and ideas for improvements are, as always, welcomed. Please keep discussions on topic.

    If you are unsure what sort of feedback is being asked for, please read this thread.
    Any off-topic posts/pointless rants will be deleted.

    Best regards,
    Your Drakensang Online Team
     
  2. edrogers58

    edrogers58 Active Author

    FRUSTRATING/DISAPPOINTING
    Does anyone play test this on live servers ?
    Agathon Server takes ages to rez in any city and if you get pissy and log out you stay logged in and get an Error 23 Code already logged in
    First day of event got 3 Pearls excellent !!!! Well until it takes nearly 24 hours to complete a daily
    As for the grind of completing this no thank you , I do not have the time with a job and a real life to grind this event.
    For me it will be the main quests and bye bye
    Thank you Drakensang team for ruining another event and getting more people to leave.
    By the way maybe the Mods do pass on information to the developers from there player base but nothing ever is done.
    I think this can be seen by the frustration of the moderators in this forum and how many quit.
     
  3. vampiro

    vampiro Active Author

    Forcing players to spend more time/do more entries to finish an event without adjusting the droprates of red pearls and progress drops... EDIT , but enslave your players, you treat us with a huge disrespect, we want acts, not empty words and propaganda from you ;)
    Red pearls drop should be increased and progress obtained on both Dragans, particularly the group Dragan, why should be your choice where event is doable instead of letting the player decide if doing event on group dragan or solo?
     
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  4. brayan1994

    brayan1994 Forum Apprentice

    Do I have to complete the second progress bar to start the third one?
     
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  5. dorotka-ok

    dorotka-ok Forum Greenhorn

    Are we taking part in the test? BP is testing players? From August to December, they were giving away everything, and now everything is turned off. Another event that is not feasible. This game without events is boring. I play with my husband 2 or 3 hours a day. We always buy Premium Delux - to be honest people - we use it, we pay, in life there is no nothing for free! Now, however, the money will remain in our wallets. A waste of time and money on your game. You can also play for free - so do the play now. Let me know how you change the approach to players.
     
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  6. FAALHAAS

    FAALHAAS Regular

    This was the only event that had some decent/positive feedback this year and you manage to nerve drops into oblivion.

    Its almost if you guys do it on purpose :)

    *DEVS see players happy with event*
    ....
    *DEVS makes angry faces* >=[
    ....
    NERVE EVERYTHINGGGGGG!!!!!
     
  7. NSDT-returns

    NSDT-returns Someday Author

    Little bit of a copy paste with a few modifications in layout + some added content now that I played it a little more

    PROS:
    The event progress rewards are great
    The rewards from great hall are good.
    The rune farm is still ok-ish in terms of rewards

    CONS:
    Bar 2 is a nightmare for player that are not 55 / that are 55 but can't play above fatal (even in inf1 it takes ages)
    => adjust the droprate of elemental pearls or reduce bars below 7K, it's pretty ridiculous that strong player can farm in inf5 and get stacks of 20 when weaker ones get stacks of 2 in fatal ....
    Bar 3 and 4 need too many runs, with 450 progress in great hall inf4, we need 134 runs
    => Either increase the progress drop in solo and a lot in group (45 progress in group inf4, what a joke), reduce bar length (we got from 10k to 60k with same progress drop...)
    The cape is not Worth it: it just helps doing bar 2 which is not the main issue in finishing the event. With cape bonus, you need 122 dragan great hall inf4, which is 120 empowered pearls (assuming wou drop 2 thanks to the cape)
    => Be smart and incrthe raven pearl bonus from 10 to 25% at least, give 10% empowered drop on dragn instead of this ridiculous 2%

    As a conclusion, the main issue here is time.
    Most people don't spend their lives playing DSO.
    This event was and should still be "finishable" in about 25h fast farm max. (it's a 2 week event ...)
    Seeing the amount of dragan entries needed for Bar 3+4, it's definitely more like 50h for the fastest, more like 80-100h for people like me (50k mage).
    It's even worse for small players / 55 beginners who get to face the Bar2 wall (which has no reason to exist) and can't do dragan in high difficulties, even with smaller bars.

    => You have to make event less grindy:
    An event should be finishable with max 1h30 farm every day of it (sounds fair to me)
    However it's not the case for most event that comes out those days and that's a pity.

    I'll do this event and try to finish it because the progress rewards are great.
    I need the draken cores and runes from dragan, I need group runes from pearl farming.
    The event in itself is still good farm BUT You are going the wrong way.
    People would be ready to pay for nice cosmetics instead of getting forced into buying to finish event (which is even a fail here since cape is awfully bad). Many people are ready to buy premium or deluxe if they are having fun and finishable events.
    Events were and could still be great if you just reduced event grind, worked more on the quests in those, worked on event accessibility (which was the aim of the new progress bar wou made far too high for new players)
     
  8. vkillerx

    vkillerx Forum Pro

    ~ Your overall impression
    Much worse that the last event, there is no improvement just downfall

    ~ What, specifically, lead you to that view?
    The prolonged progress bars which are almsot impossible to do for anyone with life, low stats etc.

    ~ What aspects of the release did you particularly like, and why?
    The auto-pickup is a great step yet is not even half-work this time, the most important items still lay on ground as other Threads mention and the feature should not be limited to prem/deluxe users if so only in some enhanced way e.g. larger radius, filtering or so

    ~ What aspects of the release were you unimpressed with, and why?
    The event spam and the events themselves

    ~ What could have been done better, and how?
    See above... + keeping the old dragan version


    ~ Which maps did you particularly like, and why
    All are few years old yet fine, aside of the hall which apparently has been made a hell of 150 solo runs

    ~ Which maps were you unimpressed with, and why?
    See above

    ~ What was your view of the difficulty of the event? Too fast/easy? To hard/slow? Or about right?
    Time, time, and more time is what dragan is and whose idea was on top of that throw LBs... i have no darn idea
    Event is too grindy 1.5k normal dragan i3 runs or 150 solo runs is not even a bad joke anymore especially with the current ECPs drops

    ~ Did you find the event interesting, or was it a bit of a grind?
    A hell lot of grind

    ~ What, specifically, could be done to improve it?
    See above

    ~ What was your view of the rewards? New and interesting? Same old, same old? Ok, but a bit poor for the time/effort involved?
    Most of the insanely long bars are sort of meh for those who can actually obtain them
    Only worthy thing i´ve found which is reachable for most is the sacred ruby which once again might be overshot as we shall await more nerfs with such rewards so easily obtainable

    ~ What rewards would you have preferred (no Lamborghini's or Ferrari's, sorry).?
    Fun and entertainment...
     
  9. rcch

    rcch Active Author

    Some guildmates simply said that they stop playing at all since it is impossible to finish this event without paying (huge amount of real money)or by playing enormous hours(0 droprate of red pearls... I got 1 IN 2 HOURS OF RUNNING WITH SPEEDBUFF).
    So not so good for BP either when people stop playing
     
  10. kuwabaraz

    kuwabaraz Exceptional Talent

    Much has already been written by various users in the r235!

    After trying everything for me it is an event to be skipped like everyone who is and will continue in this measure!

    I'm sorry to write it but playing in an event where the drop is close to 0 and you count on your hand you can't even finish the 2nd progress bar doesn't make sense!:cool:
     
  11. Vedmak1974

    Vedmak1974 Forum Apprentice

    The next event is messed up! What can I say? The developers have not learned how to make money! The game turned into hard labor!
     
  12. нафаня

    нафаня Forum Greenhorn

    it's like family life, the further, the better the chances for divorce ... I think it's time to file for divorce with the game, even though I still have 80 days Suite - subscription ... but do not feel sorry, sorry for those years which I spent at the computer crushing the mouse and keyboard erasing. Ake huge minus ...
     
  13. brayan1994

    brayan1994 Forum Apprentice

    Please could you answer this question for me to decide whether to leave the event or not.
    Do I have to complete the second progress bar to start the third one?
     
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  14. OCEANIC.

    OCEANIC. Forum Apprentice

    Yes
     
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  15. wojtekwjk

    wojtekwjk Advanced

    lol isn't that obvious ? Of course you do.
     
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  16. AngryMOB

    AngryMOB Forum Apprentice

    map 2 ( poison ) - quest 2 - get an order from the shai'la'lama ....
    already did around 60 rounds for it ... and f. quest can't be canceled
    merry xmas to youu ... wish you all there at headquarters ... fridges full of meat .... dark
     
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  17. brayan1994

    brayan1994 Forum Apprentice

    Thanks, I just didn't want to believe it, 6 Dragan inf 4 and 3 inf 3 for nothing.
    Bar 2 should be much shorter or allow other bars to be filled.
     
  18. DreamWill

    DreamWill Old Hand

    the more time I spend here, the more I am convinced this is not a game anymore, but only a sociological stress-test experiment.
     
  19. Dragenstein

    Dragenstein Padavan

    I don't understand why people spend hundreds of dollars to buy game items just to play an event like this. That explains why this game is no longer for people like me. I have fond memories from the Dragan event a few years ago. It was fun while it lasted.
     
  20. Akageshi

    Akageshi Forum Duke

    For a level 50 character who has literally nothing, this event is actually pretty cool.
    Quests take just a few runs in each dungeon, and each finished quest yields mostly quite amazing rewards- again, for a weak level 50 character: A bunch of runes, big gems, 3 month smelter, 7 days premium, ... I'm genuinely amazed.

    What is not cool, is the progress bars. Bar 2 and onward are impossible.
    Also, the necessity to farm pearls to enter the 4 dungeons is incredibly irritating.

    An ideal event would be one where players get all the practical rewards (like gems, runes, most drakens, etc.) that are now in the progress bars, from simply doing event quests. One or two runs in a dungeon to finish each quest. Finishing all quests would earn you all the practical rewards.
    Progress bars would be a feature for completionsts, that would only contain items of prestige. For example mounts, costumes or auras specifically made for that particular event season (ergo no recycles); special weapon visual effects; achievements and titles; maybe extra drakens; ...and such things.
     
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